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"Jonathan Cook" wrote in message
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riverman wrote:

you don't. For them who know the Juan, catching footballs there is
apparently trivial, as folks tell tales of hundreds of fish a day. I saw

Don't believe it.

Anyway, I doubt that I will ever fish the San Juan again. Too much 'local

If your stateside in January, I'd recommend the clave. As Willi said,
the circus has left town for the most part, and there's plenty of
places on the river that aren't like the Kiddie Hole. Hook a fish deep
in the main channel, and they'll fight.

Jon.

I won't be in the Homeland this January, but I'll recant my 'never again'
statement. I'd go in a hearbeat to fish with any of you guys, and I'd even
go if I really needed a 'fix' and there wasn't anything closer to home
available. But it'd never be home water; its just not the type of fishing I
like. In fact, its exactly why I stopped commercial raft guiding: I
preferred the rule-less solitude of wilderness floating.

--riverman

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Wayne Harrison wrote:

"Willi & Sue" wrote
That brings us to the present where fishermen, even novices, are able to
consistently take fish on some of our tailwaters using a variety of
techniques while fishing flies as small as a size 28. (I've had people
claim that they use even smaller flies, but I've never come across
anyone with one on their leader. Bruce?) On some tailwaters a size 22
and 24 fly is standard fare.

so, willi, what do you think about the use of 20+ size nymphs in
freestone streams from 20 to 50 feet wide?

That's 20-, you innoomerate appaloochian buffoon. g

JR

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Wayne Harrison wrote:

"Willi & Sue" wrote
That brings us to the present where fishermen, even novices, are able to
consistently take fish on some of our tailwaters using a variety of
techniques while fishing flies as small as a size 28. (I've had people
claim that they use even smaller flies, but I've never come across
anyone with one on their leader. Bruce?) On some tailwaters a size 22
and 24 fly is standard fare.

so, willi, what do you think about the use of 20+ size nymphs in
freestone streams from 20 to 50 feet wide?

That's 20-, you innoomerate appaloochian buffoon. g

JR

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Jonathan Cook wrote:
riverman wrote:
... For them who know the Juan, catching footballs there is
apparently trivial, as folks tell tales of hundreds of fish a day. ...

Don't believe it.

Andy Kim guarantees at least 24 fish on a full day guided trip
on the Juan or your money back.

I fished with Andy Kim's winter time surrogate the "Camo Man"
and I assure you if I had wanted to stand there and catch
battered fish after battered fish I could easily have caught
a hundred fish, not different fish mind you, more like the
same ten, ten times each, but a hundred fish in the course
of an 8 hour day. Like Myron said upon observing the newbies,
it's a rare drift that doesn't result in a hookup.

Me and El Paso Bob cut the Camo Man loose around one in the
afternoon and left the Kiddie Hole to Blackcat and his buddies
while we went off to toss dry flies.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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Jonathan Cook wrote:
riverman wrote:
... For them who know the Juan, catching footballs there is
apparently trivial, as folks tell tales of hundreds of fish a day. ...

Don't believe it.

Andy Kim guarantees at least 24 fish on a full day guided trip
on the Juan or your money back.

I fished with Andy Kim's winter time surrogate the "Camo Man"
and I assure you if I had wanted to stand there and catch
battered fish after battered fish I could easily have caught
a hundred fish, not different fish mind you, more like the
same ten, ten times each, but a hundred fish in the course
of an 8 hour day. Like Myron said upon observing the newbies,
it's a rare drift that doesn't result in a hookup.

Me and El Paso Bob cut the Camo Man loose around one in the
afternoon and left the Kiddie Hole to Blackcat and his buddies
while we went off to toss dry flies.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:59:17 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Andy Kim guarantees at least 24 fish on a full day guided trip
on the Juan or your money back.

Not any more, and his guarantee was 24 hookups - which included hooking the
bottom. According to a guy at a fly shop on the SJ a couple of Texans called
him on the guarantee and wanted their money back. When he refused they roughed
him up and he later took the sign off his truck. g
--
Charlie...

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On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:59:17 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Andy Kim guarantees at least 24 fish on a full day guided trip
on the Juan or your money back.

Not any more, and his guarantee was 24 hookups - which included hooking the
bottom. According to a guy at a fly shop on the SJ a couple of Texans called
him on the guarantee and wanted their money back. When he refused they roughed
him up and he later took the sign off his truck. g
--
Charlie...

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On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:15:49 -0400, Charlie Choc
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:59:17 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Andy Kim guarantees at least 24 fish on a full day guided trip
on the Juan or your money back.

Not any more, and his guarantee was 24 hookups - which included hooking the
bottom. According to a guy at a fly shop on the SJ a couple of Texans called
him on the guarantee and wanted their money back. When he refused they roughed
him up and he later took the sign off his truck. g

Well, there are a couple of sayings in Texas (one of which wayno is surprisingly
but apparently familiar...) that seem apropos: "If yer gonna whine about the
horns, don't mess with the bull..." and "Contracts? We don't need no contracts
- we just shake hands and whip the welsher's ass..."

Informationally,
R

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On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:15:49 -0400, Charlie Choc
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:59:17 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Andy Kim guarantees at least 24 fish on a full day guided trip
on the Juan or your money back.

Not any more, and his guarantee was 24 hookups - which included hooking the
bottom. According to a guy at a fly shop on the SJ a couple of Texans called
him on the guarantee and wanted their money back. When he refused they roughed
him up and he later took the sign off his truck. g

Well, there are a couple of sayings in Texas (one of which wayno is surprisingly
but apparently familiar...) that seem apropos: "If yer gonna whine about the
horns, don't mess with the bull..." and "Contracts? We don't need no contracts
- we just shake hands and whip the welsher's ass..."

Informationally,
R

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wrote:
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:15:49 -0400, Charlie Choc
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:59:17 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Andy Kim guarantees at least 24 fish on a full day guided trip
on the Juan or your money back.

Not any more, and his guarantee was 24 hookups - which included
hooking the bottom. According to a guy at a fly shop on the SJ a
couple of Texans called him on the guarantee and wanted their money
back. When he refused they roughed him up and he later took the sign
off his truck. g

Well, there are a couple of sayings in Texas (one of which wayno is
surprisingly but apparently familiar...) that seem apropos: "If yer
gonna whine about the horns, don't mess with the bull..." and
"Contracts? We don't need no contracts - we just shake hands and
whip the welsher's ass..."

That's "welcher", you illiterate tejan buffoon. :)
--
TL,
Tim
(actually, it's either, but I just wanted to say that.)
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