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On Feb 18, 11:41*am, Doug Reese wrote:
I'm guessing that's what he's talking about, Joe.

And, as is frequently the case, he's putting words into Kerry's
mouth . . . . . . . words he never said.

I wanted to avoid direct criticism of Bob, because what he says is not
limited to just him but is ubiquitous among the willing as well as
swiftboaters & their inadvertent accomplices. It's the folks who
started that **** who have no honor. Bob, Dave, et al have my respect
as veterans, but I have difficulty understanding the irrational hatred
of Kerry.

Joe F.

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I don't think most people perceive Obama as "black." Bill Maher calls
him "the Halle Berry of politics."

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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On Feb 18, 11:46*am, wrote:

Yes, I do...obviously, you don't have a clue, and are perfectly willing
to tell the world more than you know about what I mean...

So, you like apples?

Joe F.

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On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:41:17 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Dave LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
They saw it
with their own eyes on CNN. ;-)

Bob obviously was mistaken about the CNN remark, and if you will read
his words, he was not sure it was CNN. It *was* televised, and Kerry
did lie. ...

No he didn't. You and Bob can, and doubtless will, repeat that
lie over and over in the face of incontrovertible facts but it
will never be anything more than Swiftboat slander. Shame on the
both of you.

And shame on you for supporting him, for, if what he said is true, he
should be tried as a war criminal for participating in it and for not
stopping others whom he saw commit these atrocities. What's it going
to be, Ken: Trial for perjury, or trial as a war criminal. Can't
have it both ways.

Dave

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On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:51:58 -0800 (PST), rb608
wrote:

Bush lied and people died. Bush gave comfort to the enemy by telling
those lies simply to pad his own nest. Bush gave comfort to the enemy
by meeting with the financiers of the 9/11 attack in Saudi Arabia
"while Commander in Chief". That was a traitorous act.

Simple, Joe. Impeach the *******. But if you do, impeach Kerry at
the same time. Real easy.

Dave

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On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:39:50 -0600, "Wolfgang"
wrote:

So, you attest that YOU were there?

Egads. You AND Fortenberry need reading lessons. I was gonna suggest
YOU give him the lessons, but I doubt it would do him much good.

Napolionic boob

Davie

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Dave LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Dave LaCourse wrote:
It *was* televised, and Kerry
did lie. ...
No he didn't. You and Bob can, and doubtless will, repeat that
lie over and over in the face of incontrovertible facts but it
will never be anything more than Swiftboat slander. Shame on the
both of you.

And shame on you for supporting him, for, if what he said is true, he
should be tried as a war criminal for participating in it and for not
stopping others whom he saw commit these atrocities. What's it going
to be, Ken: Trial for perjury, or trial as a war criminal. Can't
have it both ways.

Joe posted a link to a transcript of Kerry's testimony. I posted
a link to the audio of the same testimony. If you're too lazy,
deluded, warped, whatever to read the testimony the least you
could do is listen to it. There was no perjury. No matter how
strongly you hate John Kerry he did not commit perjury before
the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1971. That's fact.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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"rw" wrote in message
m...
I don't think most people perceive Obama as "black." Bill Maher calls him
"the Halle Berry of politics."

At which point it becomes important to recollect that Maher almost certainly
knows exactly what he's saying.......even when his most ardent fans don't
have a clue.

Wolfgang
a boy almost has to wonder why they keep on doing it over and over and over
and over and over........ainna? :)

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...
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 06:18:12 -0800 (PST), rb608
wrote:

On Feb 17, 9:48 pm, wrote:
Yes, I knew exactly what I was writing,

Yes, I knew that.

but you're flat wrong about the
meaning and what I meant.

No. I'm not.

The term "jungle fever" has nothing to do
with the character, education, or amount of respect shown the black guy
in question, it's a comment directed solely at white folks.

In your context, it's a racist red flag highlighting Obama's African
ancestry and trivializing the respect he deserves for his
accomplishments, and in particular, his acceptance and endorsement by
a white woman. But you knew that.


In fact,
there would not even need to be an actual black person involved.

Well, that's just laughable.


I have
no idea what race the person who coined the term was, but I've heard it
more from black folks than white (usually good-naturedly gigging white
folks),

Yeah, I hear the n-word used when good-naturedly gigging folks too.
Why don't you just cut the obfuscation and go right to how you feel.

I've never heard a black person say they were offended by it,
and it was popularized by a black guy -

A movie was made by Spike Lee that examined the racial conflicts
inherent in the phrase. That's a big difference from popularizing of
the racist use of the phrase itself.


Spike Lee (Ossie Davis and Ruby
Dee, not to mention Sam Jackson and Wesley Snipes, seemingly didn't take
offense, either, and if Davis and Mrs. Dee didn't have a problem with
it, that's good enough for me).

So you've spoken with them and understand their feelings as black
professionals on the derogatory use of the phrase, or are you just
assuming that their appearance as actors in a social critique are all
the insight you require?

As a matter of fact, kinda-sorta-yes - I've actually had a pretty close
conversation with Davis (mainly over the use of "nigga" in "music" - it
also included Dizzy Gillespie, one of the Marsalis boys, Flonzy Burrell,
either Art or Cyril Neville, and some other folks of various races). As
to Snipes and Jackson, nope, and no offense to 'em, but I'd give Davis
or Dee 4 votes each to their 2 total, so they'd be overruled, IMO.

Meet them on a condensed milk can label? :)

Wolfgang
who knows the boy is a liah.

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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:39:50 -0600, "Wolfgang"
wrote:

So, you attest that YOU were there?

Egads. You AND Fortenberry need reading lessons. I was gonna suggest
YOU give him the lessons, but I doubt it would do him much good.

You ever wonder how life might be different if you had any idea of what you
say? :)

Napolionic boob

Idiot.

Wolfgang