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rw August 25th, 2004 08:17 PM

Playing A Fish Quest. ?
 
Ken Fortenberry wrote:

I like to do things right, and for me getting the fish, no matter
how small, on the reel is right, meet, proper and honorable.


I can't get this picture out of my mind -- of you in your goofy hat and
with your fussy, fancy-pants tackle, playing a two-inch brook trout on
the reel.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

rw August 25th, 2004 08:17 PM

Playing A Fish Quest. ?
 
Ken Fortenberry wrote:

I like to do things right, and for me getting the fish, no matter
how small, on the reel is right, meet, proper and honorable.


I can't get this picture out of my mind -- of you in your goofy hat and
with your fussy, fancy-pants tackle, playing a two-inch brook trout on
the reel.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Don Phillipson August 25th, 2004 08:32 PM

Playing A Fish Quest. ?
 
"Bob" wrote in message
om...

For "typical" sized New England trout, e.g. rainbows and brookies,
do you folks literally just haul them in (certainly no problem in
overpowering them even with very thin tippet sizes), or do you
like to "play" them some, and tire them a bit, before landing them.

Which is better for the fish' chance of surviving ?


Fish survival on release seems to depend on the
X minutes it takes to disperse Y units of lactic
acid built up when fighting before release. If you
plan to release the fish alive, presumably playing
it faster allows less time for lactic acid to increase
i.e. Y has a smaller value so X does too.

A generation ago, experienced anglers wrote that
a fish should be played until it was so exhausted
it could not maintain itself upright, but floated on
its back or side. This may have been applied to
trout from traditional salmon fishing (cf. the
unrelated independent rule of thumb of one minute
per pound: only a skilled angler could bring a
12-pound salmon to hand in less than 12 minutes.)

Both doctrines now seem to be obsolete. Salmon
can be landed much faster than that but most
two-pound trout need more than two minutes
playing before you can either release them gently
or bag them for the pot. If you are going to keep
and eat your catch, perhaps you treat the fish
less roughly i.e. play it longer.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)



Ken Fortenberry August 25th, 2004 08:33 PM

Playing A Fish Quest. ?
 
rw wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:

I like to do things right, and for me getting the fish, no matter
how small, on the reel is right, meet, proper and honorable.


I can't get this picture out of my mind -- of you in your goofy hat and
with your fussy, fancy-pants tackle, playing a two-inch brook trout on
the reel.


I don't know whether to be flattered or creeped out.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry August 25th, 2004 08:33 PM

Playing A Fish Quest. ?
 
rw wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:

I like to do things right, and for me getting the fish, no matter
how small, on the reel is right, meet, proper and honorable.


I can't get this picture out of my mind -- of you in your goofy hat and
with your fussy, fancy-pants tackle, playing a two-inch brook trout on
the reel.


I don't know whether to be flattered or creeped out.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry August 25th, 2004 08:57 PM

Playing A Fish Quest. ?
 
Tim J. wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
Respecting the fish by honoring the sport of fly fishing,


You lost me on that one. . .


For me fly fishing is a very important part of who I am and
how I make sense of the world around me. Norman Maclean had
it right when he said there is no clear line between religion
and fly fishing. For me, words like honorable, properly and
respect are not "strange" words to associate with fly fishing.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry August 25th, 2004 08:57 PM

Playing A Fish Quest. ?
 
Tim J. wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
Respecting the fish by honoring the sport of fly fishing,


You lost me on that one. . .


For me fly fishing is a very important part of who I am and
how I make sense of the world around me. Norman Maclean had
it right when he said there is no clear line between religion
and fly fishing. For me, words like honorable, properly and
respect are not "strange" words to associate with fly fishing.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Wolfgang August 25th, 2004 09:15 PM

Playing A Fish Quest. ?
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in
message ...
Tim J. wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
Respecting the fish by honoring the sport of fly fishing,


You lost me on that one. . .


For me fly fishing is a very important part of who I am and
how I make sense of the world around me.


Thus demonstrating that you should find a less intellectually
demanding avocation.

Norman Maclean had
it right when he said there is no clear line between religion
and fly fishing.


Exactly......um.....except he never said that.

For me, words like honorable, properly and
respect are not "strange" words to associate with fly fishing.


I don't think anyone here would have any trouble associating words
like honorable, properly or respect with fly fishing. It's you
insistence that they apply somehow to YOU, whether through fly fishing
or anything else, that taints them.

Wolfgang



Wolfgang August 25th, 2004 09:15 PM

Playing A Fish Quest. ?
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in
message ...
Tim J. wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
Respecting the fish by honoring the sport of fly fishing,


You lost me on that one. . .


For me fly fishing is a very important part of who I am and
how I make sense of the world around me.


Thus demonstrating that you should find a less intellectually
demanding avocation.

Norman Maclean had
it right when he said there is no clear line between religion
and fly fishing.


Exactly......um.....except he never said that.

For me, words like honorable, properly and
respect are not "strange" words to associate with fly fishing.


I don't think anyone here would have any trouble associating words
like honorable, properly or respect with fly fishing. It's you
insistence that they apply somehow to YOU, whether through fly fishing
or anything else, that taints them.

Wolfgang



rw August 25th, 2004 09:24 PM

Playing A Fish Quest. ?
 
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Tim J. wrote:

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...

Respecting the fish by honoring the sport of fly fishing,



You lost me on that one. . .



For me fly fishing is a very important part of who I am and
how I make sense of the world around me. Norman Maclean had
it right when he said there is no clear line between religion
and fly fishing. For me, words like honorable, properly and
respect are not "strange" words to associate with fly fishing.


I loathe this style of quasi-mystical navel-gazing elitist bull****.
This is from someone who claims that the essence of flyfishing is
casting -- with a T&T rod, of course. :-) Flyfishing is a blood sport.
It can be done well (which requires years of practice, aside from a few
rare naturals), it can be done poorly, or, as is the case with most of
us, it can be done with hopeful and striving mediocrity. It has
absolutely nothing in common with religion.

Ken has a right to his point of view, and I have a right to say it's a
pile of self righteous crap.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.


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