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John Hightower October 18th, 2004 03:41 PM

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"Willi & Sue" wrote in message
...
riverman wrote:



Ditto here. I hate it when it happens, but its inevitably on the last
forward motion of a cast, when I drop the last little piece of line and

it
flips over the handle and loops over the reel, totally messing up the

cast.
I pray a fish doesn't hit the fly exactly then, as I would not stand a
change of saving my tippet.


I understand the sentiment I have chronic problems with tangles in the

line
that's been stripped off the reel and when I go to shoot the line, a big

wad
of line halts at the first guide.

However, I don't think the type of twist Dave has around his rod could
happen during the cast unless he lets go of the rod at some point while
casting. Which isn't to say that I haven't done that one too from time to
time. I usually discover it when I can't get any distance on my cast.

Willi



I must be ultra talented then! I can manage to not only get the line
wrapped around the butt on a cast , I can usually, simultaneously get a
section of line to flip aver the rod between the first guide and the cork
and then pull up tight, snagging on the hook-keeper. Periodiacally I can
also do a line wrap around the ankle during the same cast- this however is
much more difficult to control and should not be attempted by the casual
observer.

jh



John Hightower October 18th, 2004 03:41 PM

presentation -- a tutorial
 

"Willi & Sue" wrote in message
...
riverman wrote:



Ditto here. I hate it when it happens, but its inevitably on the last
forward motion of a cast, when I drop the last little piece of line and

it
flips over the handle and loops over the reel, totally messing up the

cast.
I pray a fish doesn't hit the fly exactly then, as I would not stand a
change of saving my tippet.


I understand the sentiment I have chronic problems with tangles in the

line
that's been stripped off the reel and when I go to shoot the line, a big

wad
of line halts at the first guide.

However, I don't think the type of twist Dave has around his rod could
happen during the cast unless he lets go of the rod at some point while
casting. Which isn't to say that I haven't done that one too from time to
time. I usually discover it when I can't get any distance on my cast.

Willi



I must be ultra talented then! I can manage to not only get the line
wrapped around the butt on a cast , I can usually, simultaneously get a
section of line to flip aver the rod between the first guide and the cork
and then pull up tight, snagging on the hook-keeper. Periodiacally I can
also do a line wrap around the ankle during the same cast- this however is
much more difficult to control and should not be attempted by the casual
observer.

jh



riverman October 18th, 2004 03:43 PM

presentation -- a tutorial
 

"Willi & Sue" wrote in message
...
riverman wrote:



Ditto here. I hate it when it happens, but its inevitably on the last
forward motion of a cast, when I drop the last little piece of line and
it flips over the handle and loops over the reel, totally messing up the
cast. I pray a fish doesn't hit the fly exactly then, as I would not
stand a change of saving my tippet.


I understand the sentiment I have chronic problems with tangles in the
line
that's been stripped off the reel and when I go to shoot the line, a big
wad
of line halts at the first guide.

However, I don't think the type of twist Dave has around his rod could
happen during the cast unless he lets go of the rod at some point while
casting. Which isn't to say that I haven't done that one too from time to
time. I usually discover it when I can't get any distance on my cast.


'Any' as is "any"? g
You're right about letting ago. For example, if he had just stripped in a
lot of line, then raised his tip up (like to change flies, as stated in the
other thread), then lowered it and the line was crossed over beneath his
hand, and he hadn't made his first false cast to straighten it out. Been
there, done that. The real question, however, is is he wearing a wire?

--riverman



riverman October 18th, 2004 03:43 PM

presentation -- a tutorial
 

"Willi & Sue" wrote in message
...
riverman wrote:



Ditto here. I hate it when it happens, but its inevitably on the last
forward motion of a cast, when I drop the last little piece of line and
it flips over the handle and loops over the reel, totally messing up the
cast. I pray a fish doesn't hit the fly exactly then, as I would not
stand a change of saving my tippet.


I understand the sentiment I have chronic problems with tangles in the
line
that's been stripped off the reel and when I go to shoot the line, a big
wad
of line halts at the first guide.

However, I don't think the type of twist Dave has around his rod could
happen during the cast unless he lets go of the rod at some point while
casting. Which isn't to say that I haven't done that one too from time to
time. I usually discover it when I can't get any distance on my cast.


'Any' as is "any"? g
You're right about letting ago. For example, if he had just stripped in a
lot of line, then raised his tip up (like to change flies, as stated in the
other thread), then lowered it and the line was crossed over beneath his
hand, and he hadn't made his first false cast to straighten it out. Been
there, done that. The real question, however, is is he wearing a wire?

--riverman



[email protected] October 18th, 2004 03:54 PM

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On 18 Oct 2004 14:11:44 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse) wrote:

Willi writes:

However, I don't think the type of twist Dave has around his rod could
happen during the cast unless he lets go of the rod at some point while
casting.


Willi, I wasn't casting. I was stumbling. rw told me to turn around for a
picture. I did. I did not have a good foot hold. As I remember, it was at
the tail of the Kiddie Pool/Hole. I was trying to cross over and had trouble
with slippery rocks (what's new). But, I was not casting or attempting to
cast. I was trying to regain my balance while Barnard was behind me hollering
"Turn around, Dave." No biggie. Barnard can have his fun with the picture. I
know what the truth is.

Now, wait a minute...that water looks like about 6-8" of glass, and...on second
thought, nevermind - how's about just letting this thing die a quick death? I
can foresee a lot of unintended consequences to this thread that have nothing
whatsoever to do with you and Steve. If you guys just have to trash each other
personally, why not go after each other's need for prunes, Depends, Metamucil,
Viagra (well, the theoretical need for Viagra, anyway), or similar.

TC and HTH,
R

[email protected] October 18th, 2004 03:54 PM

presentation -- a tutorial
 
On 18 Oct 2004 14:11:44 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse) wrote:

Willi writes:

However, I don't think the type of twist Dave has around his rod could
happen during the cast unless he lets go of the rod at some point while
casting.


Willi, I wasn't casting. I was stumbling. rw told me to turn around for a
picture. I did. I did not have a good foot hold. As I remember, it was at
the tail of the Kiddie Pool/Hole. I was trying to cross over and had trouble
with slippery rocks (what's new). But, I was not casting or attempting to
cast. I was trying to regain my balance while Barnard was behind me hollering
"Turn around, Dave." No biggie. Barnard can have his fun with the picture. I
know what the truth is.

Now, wait a minute...that water looks like about 6-8" of glass, and...on second
thought, nevermind - how's about just letting this thing die a quick death? I
can foresee a lot of unintended consequences to this thread that have nothing
whatsoever to do with you and Steve. If you guys just have to trash each other
personally, why not go after each other's need for prunes, Depends, Metamucil,
Viagra (well, the theoretical need for Viagra, anyway), or similar.

TC and HTH,
R

Peter Charles October 18th, 2004 04:00 PM

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Y'know Stephen, I usually can't be bothered with ROFF ****ing
contests, but this post of yours is truly pathetic. Did you seriously
think it would rally people to your cause -- whatever it is?
Everybody does this sort of thing, unless of course, they spend all
their days fishing behind the keyboard of a computer.

Peter Charles October 18th, 2004 04:00 PM

presentation -- a tutorial
 
Y'know Stephen, I usually can't be bothered with ROFF ****ing
contests, but this post of yours is truly pathetic. Did you seriously
think it would rally people to your cause -- whatever it is?
Everybody does this sort of thing, unless of course, they spend all
their days fishing behind the keyboard of a computer.

Dave LaCourse October 18th, 2004 04:04 PM

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Richard writes:

giant snip

If you guys just have to trash each other
personally, why not go after each other's need for prunes, Depends,
Metamucil,
Viagra (well, the theoretical need for Viagra, anyway), or similar.


Works for me.






Dave LaCourse October 18th, 2004 04:04 PM

presentation -- a tutorial
 
Richard writes:

giant snip

If you guys just have to trash each other
personally, why not go after each other's need for prunes, Depends,
Metamucil,
Viagra (well, the theoretical need for Viagra, anyway), or similar.


Works for me.







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