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rw February 2nd, 2005 04:30 AM

Wayne Harrison wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
m...

Wayne Harrison wrote:

"rw" wrote



Which is better for the leader/tippet connection -- clinch or improved
clinch?


improved, without a doubt.


I assume you're doubling up on those, tying a clinch knot (improved or
otherwise) to another clinch knot?




exactly.


amazing.

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[email protected] February 2nd, 2005 04:46 AM

On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 02:55:42 GMT, "Wayne Harrison"
wrote:


"Mu Young Lee" wrote in message
. itd.umich.edu...

i use the clinch or improved clinch for every connection, arbor
to terminal.


If you use a uni-knot on the arbor, you can get it to lay flat with the
main end of the backing line tangential to the reel arbor.

Mu


only rarely do i find myself concerned about the possibility of a 12"
rainbow taking me to the backing...

Yeah, but on those rare occasions, are you tangential? There are few
folks here I take literally, but if Mu says tangential, brother, I'm
gonna be tangential as all get out...Mu,. how much JW Blue does it take
to get tangential? I've got about a case and a half, but if I need
more, let me know...just PING me...

HTH,
R


Mark F. February 2nd, 2005 05:23 AM

Thanks for ALL the info I'll stay with the cinch knot.




"Mark F." wrote in message
news:PzLLd.4639$B64.242@trnddc07...
I am read a book and the author in sold on the Duncan knot AKA uni knot.
Any one have an opinion on is this is better to tie a fly on with?


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[email protected] February 2nd, 2005 06:16 AM

I have used a uni knot for everything from snelling hooks, attaching
decoy line to decoys and anchors to tying leaders to fly line and
construction of tapered leaders. It is really not that hard to tie,
and if lubricated when pulled tight, remains very strong. A great all
around knot!!
On 01 Feb 2005 20:58:30 GMT, ospam (Big Dale) wrote:

Mark wrote:I am read a book and the author in sold on the Duncan knot AKA uni
knot.
Any one have an opinion on is this is better to tie a fly on with?


I have used this knot a few times, but after flyfishing for over five decades
now, I still have enough trouble tying an improved clinch knot correctly.

Big Dale



Mu Young Lee February 3rd, 2005 06:58 AM

On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 wrote:

Yeah, but on those rare occasions, are you tangential?


It's a matter of style. Not really important for dacron backing. It does
make a difference for monofilament on spinning reels. As the line is
unwinding from the spool, if the knot is sticking out radially from the
arbor, it tends to catch the loosening coils.

Mu

Mu Young Lee February 3rd, 2005 06:58 AM

On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 wrote:

Yeah, but on those rare occasions, are you tangential?


It's a matter of style. Not really important for dacron backing. It does
make a difference for monofilament on spinning reels. As the line is
unwinding from the spool, if the knot is sticking out radially from the
arbor, it tends to catch the loosening coils.

Mu

SpeyFly March 2nd, 2005 11:38 AM

In article PzLLd.4639$B64.242@trnddc07, "Mark F."
wrote:

I am read a book and the author in sold on the Duncan knot AKA uni knot.
Any one have an opinion on is this is better to tie a fly on with?


I like the non slip knot better. Supposedly close to a %100 knot as well

SpeyFly March 2nd, 2005 11:41 AM

In article ,
ospam (Big Dale) wrote:

I have used this knot a few times, but after flyfishing for over five decades
now, I still have enough trouble tying an improved clinch knot correctly.

Big Dale


Have a fly shop show you the non slip knot. It is really easy to tie.
Also, have you thought of buying a knot tyer, like the tie fast combo
too? I saw an alternate to the tie fast combo tool at walmart that was
made in america and only cost $4.

SpeyFly March 2nd, 2005 11:42 AM

In article ,
Jarmo Hurri wrote:

Mark I am read a book and the author in sold on the Duncan knot AKA
Mark uni knot. Any one have an opinion on is this is better to tie a
Mark fly on with?

"Better" is a dangerous word to use, but let me just say that after
experimenting with *lots* of different knots, I have chosen to use the
uni knot.


Why do you like it better than the non slip mono knot?

Tom G March 2nd, 2005 11:50 PM

Mark F. wrote:
I am read a book and the author in sold on the Duncan knot AKA uni

knot.
Any one have an opinion on is this is better to tie a fly on with?


The uni-knot is a fine knot but not much stronger than the improved
clinch and we all know the improved clinch so well that by now we can
tie it in the dark.

The palomar is stronger than either, but it's a tough knot to use with
flies because it consumes too much tippet material and often pinches
part of the fly into the knot. Whenever I tie on new tippet material,
I add a slightly long piece and then use a palomar on the first fly.
After that, it's improved clinch until the next tippet change.



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