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Sprattoo April 15th, 2006 04:56 PM

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"rw" wrote in message
m...
rw wrote:
Sprattoo wrote:

"rw" wrote in message
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Sprattoo wrote:


And who wouldn't want a shirt that says "Fish pimp" on it?
I will hunt one down and give it a try. I think I can order them for my
flyshop anyway. Are they tricky to tie on?


It also has a drawing of a fish dressed up like a pimp:

http://www.anglingevolutions.com/new_products.htm


BTW, I didn't buy the T-shirt. I sent them an email saying how much I
liked their indicators. (I like to support Idaho fishing-related
companies.) They wanted to use my quote at their booth at a trade show,
and in return they sent me a bunch of stuff, including a few years' supply
of Fish Pimps and the shirt.

I guess that makes me a Fish Pimp pimp. :-)

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DANG!
MOM.... I wanna fish pimp shirt toooooo!

I comment to companies once in a while on how I like their products....
never got anything like that. i don't mind buying the floats... just want a
pimp shirt.

hehhe

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jeffc April 15th, 2006 08:23 PM

Nymphs how to fish
 

"Sprattoo" wrote in message
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I am still a hard core fan of dries..... something about watching a fish
grab off the surface... I just think Im missing a lot of good fishing by
fishing so many dries.


That won't ever change, but you will also gain a new appreciation for the
subtleties of nymph fishing. Feeling, seeing or somehow sensing the take
underwater can be a zen experience.



Wolfgang April 15th, 2006 11:41 PM

Nymphs how to fish
 

"jeffc" wrote in message
...

"Sprattoo" wrote in message
...

I am still a hard core fan of dries..... something about watching a fish
grab off the surface... I just think Im missing a lot of good fishing by
fishing so many dries.


That won't ever change, but you will also gain a new appreciation for the
subtleties of nymph fishing. Feeling, seeing or somehow sensing the take
underwater can be a zen experience.


Doubtless. On the other hand, a zen experience can be an exercise in
tedium.

Wolfgang
different strokes and all that.



rw April 16th, 2006 01:16 AM

Nymphs how to fish
 
jeffc wrote:

That won't ever change, but you will also gain a new appreciation for the
subtleties of nymph fishing. Feeling, seeing or somehow sensing the take
underwater can be a zen experience.


I don't think Zen teachings look kindly on fishing, and certainly not on
catch-and-release sport fishing. You should find a new metaphor. :-)

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riverman April 16th, 2006 03:29 AM

Nymphs how to fish
 

"rw" wrote in message
m...
jeffc wrote:

That won't ever change, but you will also gain a new appreciation for the
subtleties of nymph fishing. Feeling, seeing or somehow sensing the take
underwater can be a zen experience.


I don't think Zen teachings look kindly on fishing, and certainly not on
catch-and-release sport fishing. You should find a new metaphor. :-)



Taoist teachings are more understanding and tolerant. Zen Buddhists believe
that all creatures have the same rights and protections, but Taoists
supplanted that with the idea that the closer to Nirvana you get, the more
rights you have and the more you are allowed to enjoy the fruits of the
earth. Before, you couldn't fish or hunt, but now you can.

That was Zen, this is Tao.

--riverman



rw April 16th, 2006 09:13 AM

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riverman wrote:

That was Zen, this is Tao.


Boo! Hiss!

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jeffc April 18th, 2006 01:32 AM

Nymphs how to fish
 

"rw" wrote in message
m...
jeffc wrote:

That won't ever change, but you will also gain a new appreciation for the
subtleties of nymph fishing. Feeling, seeing or somehow sensing the take
underwater can be a zen experience.


I don't think Zen teachings look kindly on fishing, and certainly not on
catch-and-release sport fishing. You should find a new metaphor. :-)


Not "Zen" - just "zen". Like how the ignorant might experience it. "Many
youths in the Beat generation and among the hippies of the 1960s and 1970s
misunderstood the goals and methods of Zen. While the scholar D.T. Suzuki
may have brought attention to concepts basic to the Zen tradition - such as
humility, labor, service, prayer, gratitude, and meditation - by contrast
the "hip" subculture often focused on states of consciousness in
themselves."



Rusty Hook April 22nd, 2006 02:59 AM

Nymphs how to fish
 
Benjamin Turek wrote:
It is said that fish do about 90% of their feeding under the surface, so
there is much more opportunity under the water.


Which is part of the reason I enjoy taking them with dries, especially when
there is not a hatch going on.

--
Rusty Hook
Laramie, Wyoming




BlackOtter April 24th, 2006 02:13 AM

Nymphs how to fish
 
Nymphing should be done on the bottom of the river. You do not find
nymphs up in the water column. They will be found within the first 2-3
inches off the bottom if they get dislodged.

You generally don't want nymphs moving faster than the current so a
dead drift is usually your best approach. Not always, but usually.

The time to add movement to a nymph is when you want to imitate a
hatching insect. When you learn to swing a nymph, you can get enormous
strikes.

The other method is the dry-dropper other people have suggested. You
are imitating a hatching insect on its way to the surface. You don't
want the dropper to be too far below the surface, 18 to 24" max.

Fish are going to minimize their effort to maximize their food intake,
so fish the areas where fish are likely to be and that's just off the
bottom or just below the surface when they are taking emergers that are
trapped by the meniscus.

As always with fly fishing, the only rule is there are no rules.


jeffc April 25th, 2006 02:34 AM

Nymphs how to fish
 

"BlackOtter" wrote in message
oups.com...
Nymphing should be done on the bottom of the river. You do not find
nymphs up in the water column.


Really?

The time to add movement to a nymph is when you want to imitate a
hatching insect.


Riiiiight.....

The other method is the dry-dropper other people have suggested. You
are imitating a hatching insect on its way to the surface. You don't
want the dropper to be too far below the surface, 18 to 24" max.


I see.

Fish are going to minimize their effort to maximize their food intake,
so fish the areas where fish are likely to be


Well, that does seem to make sense....

and that's just off the
bottom or just below the surface when they are taking emergers that are
trapped by the meniscus.


So this "meniscus" is 18 to 24" below the surface?

As always with fly fishing, the only rule is there are no rules.


Not even "Nymphing should be done on the bottom of the river"?




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