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Wolfgang November 15th, 2006 07:11 PM

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"Jonathan Cook" wrote in message
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rw wrote:

[They] violated every single principle of the Powell Doctrine.


Pretty much.

wolves drove the elk off.


Time for wolf population control? My understanding is that
they are essentially at carrying capacity. Maybe time for
a little predator-on-predator thinning...


Ooh! Ooh! I remember that one! Don Knotts beats the snot out of a big
ugly alien, right?

Wolfgang
who remembers, not entirely without a tinge of nostalgia, a time when prey
species knew their place.



rw November 15th, 2006 07:49 PM

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Jonathan Cook wrote:
rw wrote:


[They] violated every single principle of the Powell Doctrine.



Pretty much.


wolves drove the elk off.



Time for wolf population control? My understanding is that
they are essentially at carrying capacity. Maybe time for
a little predator-on-predator thinning...


Population control? Time for "predator-on-predator thinning?" Our wolves
are regularly shot, both legally when they get into trouble with
livestock, and illegally when some asshole trigger-happy ignorant bozo
gets the chance.

I celebrate the fact that wolves are back in this area in substantial
numbers. (They've always been here, but they were comparatively rare.)
I've seen three this year -- two in Idaho and one in Montana right
across the border.

Elk have incredible senses of smell and hearing. They can run full speed
across what looks like impossible terrain. They can easily jump any
fence they're likely to encounter. Why are they so fit? It's because of
predators -- primarily wolves.

The reintroduction of wolves into central Idaho have definitely changed
the way that elk are behaving. The bulls aren't bugling nearly as
frequently, so as not to expose themselves. The elk are herding up in
larger numbers (only the slowest ones get killed), and they're hanging
out in higher open ground. This makes elk hunting far more challenging,
but that's as it should be, IMO.

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Wolfgang November 15th, 2006 08:38 PM

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"rw" wrote in message
m...
Jonathan Cook wrote:
rw wrote:


[They] violated every single principle of the Powell Doctrine.



Pretty much.


wolves drove the elk off.



Time for wolf population control? My understanding is that
they are essentially at carrying capacity. Maybe time for
a little predator-on-predator thinning...


Population control? Time for "predator-on-predator thinning?" Our wolves
are regularly shot, both legally when they get into trouble with
livestock, and illegally when some asshole trigger-happy ignorant bozo
gets the chance.

I celebrate the fact that wolves are back in this area in substantial
numbers. (They've always been here, but they were comparatively rare.)
I've seen three this year -- two in Idaho and one in Montana right across
the border.

Elk have incredible senses of smell and hearing. They can run full speed
across what looks like impossible terrain. They can easily jump any fence
they're likely to encounter. Why are they so fit? It's because of
predators -- primarily wolves.

The reintroduction of wolves into central Idaho have definitely changed
the way that elk are behaving. The bulls aren't bugling nearly as
frequently, so as not to expose themselves. The elk are herding up in
larger numbers (only the slowest ones get killed), and they're hanging out
in higher open ground. This makes elk hunting far more challenging, but
that's as it should be, IMO.


But surely you'd agree that anyone would be justified in shooting a wolf
under duress......right? I mean, say for instance, if one threatened his
dog or something.......right? :)

Wolfgang
who, it must be admitted, sometimes gets just a wee bit sad contemplating a
hypothetical world in which dumbasses were aware of, or could remember, what
they said. :)





rw November 15th, 2006 09:37 PM

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Wolfgang wrote:

But surely you'd agree that anyone would be justified in shooting a wolf
under duress......right? I mean, say for instance, if one threatened his
dog or something.......right? :)


Absolutely. If one comes after my dog and I'm armed, I'm going to shoot.

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Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Wolfgang November 15th, 2006 09:38 PM

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"rw" wrote in message
m...
Wolfgang wrote:

But surely you'd agree that anyone would be justified in shooting a wolf
under duress......right? I mean, say for instance, if one threatened his
dog or something.......right? :)


Absolutely. If one comes after my dog and I'm armed, I'm going to shoot.


You ever wonder how life might be different if you believed in something?

My advice is to go out and find something.....ANYTHING.....to believe in.

Wolfgang
who won't be holding his breath.



rw November 15th, 2006 10:08 PM

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Wolfgang wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
m...

Wolfgang wrote:

But surely you'd agree that anyone would be justified in shooting a wolf
under duress......right? I mean, say for instance, if one threatened his
dog or something.......right? :)


Absolutely. If one comes after my dog and I'm armed, I'm going to shoot.



You ever wonder how life might be different if you believed in something?

My advice is to go out and find something.....ANYTHING.....to believe in.


Belief and faith are overrated. I prefer knowledge based on evidence.

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Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Wolfgang November 16th, 2006 01:13 AM

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rw wrote:


Belief and faith are overrated. I prefer knowledge based on evidence.


Ah! Quite so......very logical.

So, Spock, if someone were to predict that a particular highly
specific event was going to occur and then an hour later it happened
just as predicted......what would you deduce from that?

Wolfgang
watch! :)



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