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On Apr 4, 4:34 pm, Scott Seidman wrote:

It happens with regularity on the Ontario and Erie tribs around here.

So, umm, when's a good time to visit? I'm an easy keeper...

Jon.

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So you slam me because I live in a Rocky Mountain state (not Colorado),
while I'm not a guide, and I have absolutely no interest in any
coldwater fishing whatsoever east of the Mississippi, including your
faux steelhead.

Steve,

perhaps I'm missing something very basic, but when in this thread did I
ever say anything about YOU??

You really should try the fishery here someday. I think you might even be
allowed to use beads, except maybe in fly fishing areas (there, NOW I've
said something you could take offense to!).

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Scott Seidman wrote:

Steve,

perhaps I'm missing something very basic, but when in this thread did I
ever say anything about YOU??

My neck of the woods?

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rw wrote in news:46157b28$0$6570
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My neck of the woods?

"Out West"... ???

Didn't realize one could take that as an insult.

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Scott Seidman wrote:

You really should try the fishery here someday. I think you might even be
allowed to use beads, except maybe in fly fishing areas (there, NOW I've
said something you could take offense to!).

BTW, I've fished in the East. I know what Eastern trout fishing is like.
IMO, it's generally inferior to Western trout fishing -- more crowded
and smaller fish -- although I'm sure there are some good places, and I
wish everyone at Penns tight lines. But why on earth would I spend time
and money to travel there when there are more Western waters than I can
ever fish over the rest of my life? (Not to mention Alaska, New Zealand,
Tasmania, etc.)

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rw wrote in
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Scott Seidman wrote:

You really should try the fishery here someday. I think you might
even be allowed to use beads, except maybe in fly fishing areas
(there, NOW I've said something you could take offense to!).

BTW, I've fished in the East. I know what Eastern trout fishing is
like. IMO, it's generally inferior to Western trout fishing -- more
crowded and smaller fish -- although I'm sure there are some good
places, and I wish everyone at Penns tight lines. But why on earth
would I spend time and money to travel there when there are more
Western waters than I can ever fish over the rest of my life? (Not to
mention Alaska, New Zealand, Tasmania, etc.)



To catch fish someone would give their eyeteeth to catch? The thread
started because someone posted an article about someone catching a 8
pounder in the middle of some town in New Zealand, and you said that people
would give their eye teeth to catch a fish like that, so people should stop
poking fun. I pointed out that we catch fish that size with some
regularity here (and I don't have to give up my eyeteeth), and the the Erie
and Ontario Tribs are becoming somewhat of a destination fishery.
Remember? I don't even remember suggesting that you should come over here.
Let's take the walk down memory lane.

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Scott said:
It happens with regularity on the Ontario and Erie tribs around here.
That's why we have all those guides from your neck of the woods
bringing sports through during your off season.

Actually, I wish those guides would book their sports through a local
guide. That's the legal way.

rw replied, somehow getting bent out of shape
WTF are you talking about? "All those guides from your [my] neck of the
woods" ??? "bringing sports through during your off season."

What is "my neck of the woods"? Are you counting "my neck of the woods"
as the entire Rocky Mountain West? Screw that.

I know almost every guide in "my neck of the woods" and I can assure you
that NONE of them that I know fish the Ontario and Erie tribs, even on
their own time. Why waste the time and effort?

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When I'm trib fishing, which I could be doing with less than a 40 minute
drive, though I opt to go out a bit further for better scenery, I leave the
net at home and take a Boga Grip instead. I get pretty disappointed if I
don't get at least a seven pounder these days. When the Chinook run,
they're a whole bunch heavier than that. Last time I was out, a few months
ago (unfortunately not more recently than that), I was the only fisherman I
could see (don't have to suffer crowds if you know what you're doing), and
I caught a steelhead that took my 8wt to the backing, 9 pounds according
the the Boga Grip scale. Granted, aside from a 3" chub I caught on a size
6 hook, that was my only fish, but I only had a few hours.

Why do people from Colorado keep coming here (and yes, I know you're not
from that state, but I lump your region into what I think of as "Western
Fishing"-- hence "your neck of the woods")? Got me. When I see 'em,
they're usually too busy reeling in 8 pound fish for conversation (well, or
maybe kicking them into a net at some renegade guide's instruction). Might
be because its a fairly inexpensive destination with very reliable runs of
very big fish that fish well during the western off season, but who knows?



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wrote in news:1175812003.332591.60980
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On Apr 4, 4:34 pm, Scott Seidman wrote:

It happens with regularity on the Ontario and Erie tribs around here.

So, umm, when's a good time to visit? I'm an easy keeper...

Jon.



Wanna drool?? Check out http://www.jaypeckguides.com/gallery/fall%2006/

(That's why you book LOCAL guides!!)


Early Fall is a good time for salmon/steelhead. Winter is good for big
trib browns and steelhead. Winter can be a bit miserable, though, if
you're not used to standing in cold, cold water with a 30 degree air
temp. If you muck around with your line, bringing it in, putting it back
out, your guides just keep freezing up. You gotta just leave your line
out unless you're reeling in a fish.

For some reason, this year, the meat fisherman kept away, so a lot of
fish seemed to have wintered over, and the trib fishing is still good.
If I go out Easter Sunday, I might just go to the tribs instead of my
favorite trout hole. I hate choices like this.




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"rw" wrote in message
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I could say that I hate and despise Easterners who come to Idaho and fish
in my favorite honey holes, but I don't. I help them out with decent
advice about where to fish, sans GPS coordinates.

No problem. I've got that covered:

1. N43° 53.047' W114° 45.842'
2. N43° 58.585' W114° 29.911'
3. N43° 58.112' W114° 41.226'
4. N44° 9.228' W114° 22.998'
5. N44° 22.123' W114° 29.590'
6. N44° 33.110' W114° 51.046'
7. N44° 55.329' W115° 44.200'
8. N43° 54.752' W115° 24.389'
9. N44° 10.059' W115° 33.839'
10. N44° 6.845' W116° 18.335'

Ya want more? All ya gotta do is speak up.

Wolfgang
for whom no public service is too small.

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"rw" wrote in message
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...why on earth would I spend time and money to travel there when there
are more Western waters than I can ever fish over the rest of my life?

You mean places like Little Squaw Creek, Little Weiser River, North Fork
Crane Creek, Big Creek, South Fork Salmon River, Indian Creek, Marsh Creek,
South Fork Payette River, Crooked River, Bear River, Grimes
Creek......places like that?

Or did you have something else in mind? I mean, I can keep guessing.......

Wolfgang
i'm very good at guessing. :)

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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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Wanna drool?? Check out http://www.jaypeckguides.com/gallery/fall%2006/

(That's why you book LOCAL guides!!)


Early Fall is a good time for salmon/steelhead. Winter is good for big
trib browns and steelhead. Winter can be a bit miserable, though, if
you're not used to standing in cold, cold water with a 30 degree air
temp. If you muck around with your line, bringing it in, putting it back
out, your guides just keep freezing up. You gotta just leave your line
out unless you're reeling in a fish.

For some reason, this year, the meat fisherman kept away, so a lot of
fish seemed to have wintered over, and the trib fishing is still good.
If I go out Easter Sunday, I might just go to the tribs instead of my
favorite trout hole. I hate choices like this.

Why on God's green Earth would rw want to fish for such itty-bitty fish as
were pictured on the site you posted!

Good grief Scott, if I couldn't post a site with trout the size of an Orca,
I wouldn't have posted the site at all.

Op --I'm with rw. Eastern trout just can't compete with their western
cousins, in neither size nor personality!--

Scott
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