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Mike[_6_] September 16th, 2007 11:21 PM

Fishing for stocked fish.
 
Oops, sorry, this link should have been under the malachite green
reference;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malachite_green

TL
MC


Mike[_6_] September 16th, 2007 11:27 PM

Fishing for stocked fish.
 
Also of considerable interest in this regard;

http://www.cefas.co.uk/news-and-even...july-2000.aspx

TL
MC


Mike[_6_] September 16th, 2007 11:39 PM

Fishing for stocked fish.
 

And this , which is the newest edition publicly available, as a direct
PDF download;

http://www.cefas.co.uk/publications/...s/ffn3_web.pdf

Letīs see what Kenny boy makes of "conflating" all that. If he bothers
to read it at all.

TL
MC


Ken Fortenberry[_2_] September 17th, 2007 12:38 AM

Fishing for stocked fish.
 
Mike wrote:
And this , which is the newest edition publicly available, as a direct
PDF download;

http://www.cefas.co.uk/publications/...s/ffn3_web.pdf

Letīs see what Kenny boy makes of "conflating" all that. If he bothers
to read it at all.


Perhaps you'd like to indicate which of those 102 pages is
supposed to convince me that the farm-raised rainbow trout
sitting on ice in the seafood section of my local grocery
store is full of poisons and toxins. Every list I can find
of safe to eat commercial fish in the US lists farm-raised
rainbow trout as among the safest.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Mike[_6_] September 17th, 2007 01:06 AM

Fishing for stocked fish.
 
On 17 Sep, 01:38, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Mike wrote:
And this , which is the newest edition publicly available, as a direct
PDF download;


http://www.cefas.co.uk/publications/...s/ffn3_web.pdf


Letīs see what Kenny boy makes of "conflating" all that. If he bothers
to read it at all.


Perhaps you'd like to indicate which of those 102 pages is
supposed to convince me that the farm-raised rainbow trout
sitting on ice in the seafood section of my local grocery
store is full of poisons and toxins. Every list I can find
of safe to eat commercial fish in the US lists farm-raised
rainbow trout as among the safest.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Well now Kenny boy, at the risk of falling foul of another of your
stupid tactics, what we are discussing here is primarily European
stocked fish, because that is what I know about. That is what the
subject matter is, and your views on American stocked or farmed fish,
though doubtless interesting, if uninformed, are not entirely
relevant at the moment. No reason why one should not include them
specifically if people wish to.

Having said that, farmed salmonids from anywhere in the world all
suffer from the same problems, because they are all reared in the
same manner using the same feed, and with all the same attendant
problems. Even cursory research will prove that, even to your
satisfaction. There is no other way to do it.

I have no idea what lists you might be referring to, but whatever they
might be, they are in error, because fish which are fed on fishmeal,
and there is no alternative to fishmeal for salmonid farming,
regardless of whether it is for marine or freshwater farming,
accumulate more toxins than any other fish, most especially dioxins
and PCBīs . This is a direct result of feeding fishmeal, and is also
independent and regardless of the drugs and chemicals which are used
in all intensive farming operations.

So, if I were you, I would look for some other information than that
on the lists you have found. Or, you can just believe what it says on
your lists, and continue poisoning yourself. It is no skin off my
nose.

If you wish to believe your lists, then there is little point in you
discussing the matter at all, now is there?

MC


Ken Fortenberry[_2_] September 17th, 2007 01:15 AM

Fishing for stocked fish.
 
Mike wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Mike wrote:
...
http://www.cefas.co.uk/publications/...s/ffn3_web.pdf
Letīs see what Kenny boy makes of "conflating" all that. If he bothers
to read it at all.

Perhaps you'd like to indicate which of those 102 pages is
supposed to convince me that the farm-raised rainbow trout
sitting on ice in the seafood section of my local grocery
store is full of poisons and toxins. Every list I can find
of safe to eat commercial fish in the US lists farm-raised
rainbow trout as among the safest.


snip
If you wish to believe your lists, then there is little point in you
discussing the matter at all, now is there?


Yeah, that's what I thought. Only those who already agree with
His Loony Mikeness have any point discussing the matter at all.
LOL !! Please, do carry on.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Mike[_6_] September 17th, 2007 01:22 AM

Fishing for stocked fish.
 
Here are some lists for you, the specific reasons for some
contamination may be water or area specific, but the dioxin, PCB and
some other high toxin levels in farmed salmonids is directly due to
the fish being fed on fishmeal;

http://www.oehha.ca.gov/fish/so_cal/nosierra.html

This link contains much of the same bull**** the UK government and its
various "advisory boards" are still producing on various salmon and
trout farms. It does not matter where these fish live, or the water
quality either. Grown on fish ( which can ONLY be grown on using
fishmeal), have extremely high levels of dioxin, PCBīs and other
toxins, because it is in the fishmeal.

http://pafeefishing.com/Angle%20Your...r%20Health.doc

http://www.northcountrygazette.org/n.../tainted_fish/

There are hundreds of such sites and stories.

Iīm sure you can google up relevant information without my assistance.
I am not here to force feed you with information on the matter. If you
donīt believe what I say, then simply research it yourself.

MC





Mike[_6_] September 17th, 2007 01:26 AM

Fishing for stocked fish.
 


And just to forestall any nonsense that your controls are more rigid,
etc etc. Fishmeal is a global commodity, and the USA is one of the
largest importers. This is the SAME fishmeal which is causing problems
elsewhere;

http://www.globefish.org/index.php?i...tid=1611191922

MC


Dave LaCourse September 17th, 2007 01:30 AM

Fishing for stocked fish.
 

Gee, Mikey. You don't seem to be very successful in ignoring Kenny
Boy. Wot?



Mike[_6_] September 17th, 2007 01:31 AM

Fishing for stocked fish.
 
On 17 Sep, 02:15, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:


Yeah, that's what I thought. Only those who already agree with
His Loony Mikeness have any point discussing the matter at all.
LOL !! Please, do carry on.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Just what I thought as well, another one of your ploys so that you
could post more silly propaganda. The truth is, you are an ignorant
****bag, who does not want to discuss anything at all. You waste people
īs time, attack them personally. and simply ignore the facts.

If you can refute anything I have written, with lists or otherwise,
then do so. otherwise **** off and stop playing silly games. There are
people who may find this interesting and informative,

MC





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