Steelhead Fly Tying Manual posted in a.b.e-book
 

Jump and dance, Monkey. You are just too easy to provoke, Mike. Just
too easy.

Davie Boy

Steelhead Fly Tying Manual posted in a.b.e-book
 

On 18 Sep, 23:32, Dave LaCourse wrote:
Jump and dance, Monkey. You are just too easy to provoke, Mike. Just
too easy.

Davie Boy

You have not provoked me in the slightest Davie boy, although I
continue to be astounded at the extent and depth of your stupidity.
Doubtless others are as well.

MC

Steelhead Fly Tying Manual posted in a.b.e-book
 

Unless of course it is breach of
copyright....................................

MC

Probably is. Frank Amato Publications. Not dated but I've had it for 25
years or more.

I'll just post it tonight where I said and you can do with it as you see
fit.


Yah know, gotta agree with Mike here. One of the reasons for the high
cost of books, music and software are people doing just that. My mind
is a guy does some work, he owns the rights to it unless he makes the
decision to open it up to the public. So yeh, you're a thief. As OJ
is living proof, just cause you think you're right doesn't mean you
are in the eyes of the law.
Frank Reid

Steelhead Fly Tying Manual posted in a.b.e-book
 

Dave LaCourse voiced his/her/it's humble opinion in
rec.outdoors.fishing.fly on Tue 18 Sep 2007 01:48:57p:

On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:04:08 GMT, LabRat
wrote:

You certainly exhibit a lot of troll-like behaviour there Mike old nut
and as I don't believe in feeding trolls I shall wish you luck in not
falling off your moralisic high horse and a good-day to you and yours.

Ah, come on, Rat. Don't quit. Twist the knobs. Push the buttons.
Watch the Mikey Monkey jump and dance and spew forth with google's top
100 most popular sites. It's fun, man.......




Getting tired of yanking trolls chains. Have a serious troll problem over
at A.B.M.U.

Kind of like fishing in a "put and take lake". They'll rise to any bait
presented, no matter how poorly. :0)


Later......

LabRat...... |:^{)

Steelhead Fly Tying Manual posted in a.b.e-book
 

On 19 Sep, 00:26, LabRat wrote:
Dave LaCourse voiced his/her/it's humble opinion in
rec.outdoors.fishing.fly on Tue 18 Sep 2007 01:48:57p:

On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:04:08 GMT, LabRat
wrote:

You certainly exhibit a lot of troll-like behaviour there Mike old nut
and as I don't believe in feeding trolls I shall wish you luck in not
falling off your moralisic high horse and a good-day to you and yours.

Ah, come on, Rat. Don't quit. Twist the knobs. Push the buttons.
Watch the Mikey Monkey jump and dance and spew forth with google's top
100 most popular sites. It's fun, man.......

Getting tired of yanking trolls chains. Have a serious troll problem over
at A.B.M.U.

Kind of like fishing in a "put and take lake". They'll rise to any bait
presented, no matter how poorly. :0)

Later......

LabRat...... |:^{)

Yeah yeah yeah, you were only yanking chains, you are not really a
thief and an idiot, now where have I heard that before?

So the uploads to here;

http://www.binsearch.info/browse.php...inaries.e-book

were only yanking chains?

What would you say if I posted the whole lot to Amato Publications you
thieving ****bag?

Go away and play somewhere else sonny, there are enough arseholes here
already, we don´t need thieves as well.

MC

Steelhead Fly Tying Manual posted in a.b.e-book
 

On 19 Sep, 00:21, Frank Reid wrote:
Unless of course it is breach of
copyright....................................

MC

Probably is. Frank Amato Publications. Not dated but I've had it for 25
years or more.

I'll just post it tonight where I said and you can do with it as you see
fit.

Yah know, gotta agree with Mike here. One of the reasons for the high
cost of books, music and software are people doing just that. My mind
is a guy does some work, he owns the rights to it unless he makes the
decision to open it up to the public. So yeh, you're a thief. As OJ
is living proof, just cause you think you're right doesn't mean you
are in the eyes of the law.
Frank Reid

My respect to you sir.

MC

Steelhead Fly Tying Manual posted in a.b.e-book
 

Frank Reid wrote:
Unless of course it is breach of
copyright....................................
MC
Probably is. Frank Amato Publications. Not dated but I've had it for 25
years or more.

I'll just post it tonight where I said and you can do with it as you see
fit.

Yah know, gotta agree with Mike here. ...

Yep, me too. Posting copyrighted material to the Internet is
thievery and the person who does so is a thief. We don't need
thieves advertising their thievery here on roff, it's not seemly.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Steelhead Fly Tying Manual posted in a.b.e-book
 

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
ups.com...
Unless of course it is breach of
copyright....................................

MC

Probably is. Frank Amato Publications. Not dated but I've had it for 25
years or more.

I'll just post it tonight where I said and you can do with it as you see
fit.


Yah know, gotta agree with Mike here. One of the reasons for the high
cost of books, music and software are people doing just that.

Well, it's one of those chicken/egg sort of things. One of the reasons
people do that is the high cost of books, music and software......which is
an inevitable and direct result of highly restrictive copyright laws
(anybody here remember Adam Smith?) :)

My mind
is a guy does some work, he owns the rights to it unless he makes the
decision to open it up to the public.

A perfectly reasonable position that I can't disagree with. But it opens
the door to what could (in another universe, perhaps) be a lively and useful
discussion on reasonable limits to copyright protection.

Ah, to live in a world where such a thing might be possible!

So yeh, you're a thief. As OJ
is living proof, just cause you think you're right doesn't mean you
are in the eyes of the law.

Yep.

Wolfgang

Steelhead Fly Tying Manual posted in a.b.e-book
 

On 19 Sep, 15:23, "Wolfgang" wrote:
"Frank Reid" wrote in message



A perfectly reasonable position that I can't disagree with. But it opens
the door to what could (in another universe, perhaps) be a lively and useful
discussion on reasonable limits to copyright protection.

Ah, to live in a world where such a thing might be possible!

So yeh, you're a thief. As OJ
is living proof, just cause you think you're right doesn't mean you
are in the eyes of the law.

Yep.

Wolfgang

As it happens, I also disagree with the present copyright situation.
Indeed, recent rulings here have made it even more difficult to obtain
works which have long been out of print, but are still copyrighted,
effectively preventing people from obtaining them.

I don´t really know what would be the best copyright period, but I
imagine something like 20...25 years form the date of publication,
would be reasonable. At the end of that time, authors would presumably
have received any financial benefits they might reasonably expect to
obtain.

Now, even long after the authors death, copyright is held by various
publishing houses and the like, whose only interest is financial.

While I disagree with the present laws, I do not think stealing people
´s work is an alternative. There are lots of illegal copies of all
sorts of stuff floating around the internet, software is a good
example, and it seems the vast majority of people do not view using or
distributing them as particularly wrong.

Unfortunately, the theft of this material puts up the price for
everybody else.

Also, one is bound to wonder why people go to so much trouble in order
to steal and distribute various things. I can understand why a
professional thief does it, he wants to obtain money with it, But why
somebody should steal and upload a readily available book is quite
beyond me.In most cases, the trouble and effort involved are
considerable, there is no gain involved, and considerable risk.

TL
MC

Steelhead Fly Tying Manual posted in a.b.e-book
 

Mike voiced his/her/it's humble opinion in rec.outdoors.fishing.fly on
Wed 19 Sep 2007 06:56:39a:

On 19 Sep, 15:23, "Wolfgang" wrote:
"Frank Reid" wrote in message



A perfectly reasonable position that I can't disagree with. But it
opens the door to what could (in another universe, perhaps) be a
lively and use
ful
discussion on reasonable limits to copyright protection.

Ah, to live in a world where such a thing might be possible!

So yeh, you're a thief. As OJ
is living proof, just cause you think you're right doesn't mean you
are in the eyes of the law.

Yep.

Wolfgang

As it happens, I also disagree with the present copyright situation.
Indeed, recent rulings here have made it even more difficult to obtain
works which have long been out of print, but are still copyrighted,
effectively preventing people from obtaining them.

I don´t really know what would be the best copyright period, but I
imagine something like 20...25 years form the date of publication,
would be reasonable. At the end of that time, authors would presumably
have received any financial benefits they might reasonably expect to
obtain.

Now, even long after the authors death, copyright is held by various
publishing houses and the like, whose only interest is financial.

While I disagree with the present laws, I do not think stealing people
´s work is an alternative. There are lots of illegal copies of all
sorts of stuff floating around the internet, software is a good
example, and it seems the vast majority of people do not view using or
distributing them as particularly wrong.

Unfortunately, the theft of this material puts up the price for
everybody else.

Also, one is bound to wonder why people go to so much trouble in order
to steal and distribute various things. I can understand why a
professional thief does it, he wants to obtain money with it, But why
somebody should steal and upload a readily available book is quite
beyond me.In most cases, the trouble and effort involved are
considerable, there is no gain involved, and considerable risk.

TL
MC



There. I'll let the publishers decide. I just sent off this e-mail to
Frank Amato Publications and will await their reply before doing
anything. The first attempt to upload was incomplete and I cancelled it
from the e-book NG. What the heck do I need with a conscience at my age
anyhow?


To:
Subject: Old Steelhead Fly Tying manual

Hi there.

I have one of your old books titled "Steelhead Fly Tying Manual" by Tom
Light and Neal Humphrey. It's all black and white with one colour page
of fly patterns. I purchased it new sometime in the early '80s and was
wondering as it it not available for sale anymore if it would be OK with
you if I scanned it and uploaded it to a fishing news group?

I'm pretty sure it would likely draw attention to the books that you do
have available and generate some, albeit small amount of sales.

Thank you for your consideration in this matter.

Sincerly

Bxxxx Txxxxx

Late of the Fraser Valley
Now missin' my fishin'
in the Great White North.


Later......

LabRat...... |:^{)