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"Big Dale" wrote in message ... Svend wrote:snipCalfs tail works pretty well, but I guess people are getting to lay to stack hairs. I use most methods mentioned but most of the time its either polypro or t-base depending on size and how slim I want the body. Don't know what part of Texas you are from, but around Dallas the members of The Roadkill Roundtable have a hard time finding those chartreuse cows laying dead on the side of the road. You're just looking in the wrong places: http://www.webtender.com/db/drink/4461 -- HTH, Tim ------------------------ http://css.sbcma.com/timj |
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"riverman" wrote in message "rb608" wrote in message I've never tied parachutes, so I'm not asking from experience; but why can't you do the same figure eight thing on top of the hook without wrapping it under? IIUC, you create wings instead of a post. I understand that part; but maybe that's the answer. Chuck wrote, "A couple of figure-eight wraps so it's perpendicular to the shank and then I pull the two ends up and wrap them together to make the post." Is it difficult/impossible to wrap the two ends together to form a post if they're on top as opposed to the bottom? Joe F. |
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"rb608" wrote in message ... "riverman" wrote in message "rb608" wrote in message I've never tied parachutes, so I'm not asking from experience; but why can't you do the same figure eight thing on top of the hook without wrapping it under? IIUC, you create wings instead of a post. I understand that part; but maybe that's the answer. Chuck wrote, "A couple of figure-eight wraps so it's perpendicular to the shank and then I pull the two ends up and wrap them together to make the post." Is it difficult/impossible to wrap the two ends together to form a post if they're on top as opposed to the bottom? Hmm, if I'm visualizing this correctly, you're just asking why the post can't be a U-shaped piece of material, with the U above the shank rather than wrapped around it? I guess the only reason for that might be that the post material might add floatation, so having it wrap below the shank floats the hook higher. Other than that, I'm not certain Chuck meant that his post material wrapped around the shaft. "Perpendicular" might mean horizontal and perpendicular (lying across the hook, putting the U above the shaft) rather than vertical and perpendicular (wrapping the U around the hook) --riverman |
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"riverman" wrote in message Hmm, if I'm visualizing this correctly, you're just asking why the post can't be a U-shaped piece of material, with the U above the shank rather than wrapped around it? That's exactly my question. Other than that, I'm not certain Chuck meant that his post material wrapped around the shaft. "Perpendicular" might mean horizontal and perpendicular (lying across the hook, putting the U above the shaft) rather than vertical and perpendicular (wrapping the U around the hook) Hmm. Maybe so. From his description, I envisioned him tying on the post material similar to a pair of barbel eyes then folding it up & wrapping it. Joe F. |
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rb608 wrote:
"riverman" wrote in message Hmm, if I'm visualizing this correctly, you're just asking why the post can't be a U-shaped piece of material, with the U above the shank rather than wrapped around it? That's exactly my question. Other than that, I'm not certain Chuck meant that his post material wrapped around the shaft. "Perpendicular" might mean horizontal and perpendicular (lying across the hook, putting the U above the shaft) rather than vertical and perpendicular (wrapping the U around the hook) Hmm. Maybe so. From his description, I envisioned him tying on the post material similar to a pair of barbel eyes then folding it up & wrapping it. Sorry to put you guys through so much trouble trying to decipher my previous post. :-) I tie the polypro on with the "U" under/around the hook shank (I start it above but let the thread rotate it under). I tied them above as well, but I like the look of the bump underneath, as it looks like a proper thorax. And it may be my imagination (or rationalization), but it seems to lock in place better when wrapped from underneath. Chuck Vance |
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"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message Sorry to put you guys through so much trouble trying to decipher my previous post. :-) I tie the polypro on with the "U" under/around the hook shank (I start it above but let the thread rotate it under). I tied them above as well, but I like the look of the bump underneath, as it looks like a proper thorax. And it may be my imagination (or rationalization), but it seems to lock in place better when wrapped from underneath. Chuck Vance Pretty much how I do it, except I start with the post material below the shank of the hook and pull straight up on both ends, make a few cross wraps to stabilize and then wrap up the post to give a good thread base for the parachute hackle- trim to length. jh |
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I tie in a piece of poly (half the thickness I want) with 3-4 wraps in the same spot above and along the shank. Then lift both ends straight up and wrap around it (usual post reinforcement) and add a tiny drop of head cement. No bulk underneath and no excess sticking backwards adding bulk to the body. I place the poly in the same way you tie in rubber legs, i.e. U the poly around the thread, hold it with left hand, make one wrap while placing the poly on top of the shank at the tiein point. riverman wrote: "rb608" wrote in message ... "riverman" wrote in message "rb608" wrote in message I've never tied parachutes, so I'm not asking from experience; but why can't you do the same figure eight thing on top of the hook without wrapping it under? IIUC, you create wings instead of a post. I understand that part; but maybe that's the answer. Chuck wrote, "A couple of figure-eight wraps so it's perpendicular to the shank and then I pull the two ends up and wrap them together to make the post." Is it difficult/impossible to wrap the two ends together to form a post if they're on top as opposed to the bottom? Hmm, if I'm visualizing this correctly, you're just asking why the post can't be a U-shaped piece of material, with the U above the shank rather than wrapped around it? I guess the only reason for that might be that the post material might add floatation, so having it wrap below the shank floats the hook higher. Other than that, I'm not certain Chuck meant that his post material wrapped around the shaft. "Perpendicular" might mean horizontal and perpendicular (lying across the hook, putting the U above the shaft) rather than vertical and perpendicular (wrapping the U around the hook) --riverman -- Svend ************************************************** *************** Svend Tang-Petersen, MSc Email: svend AT sgi.com SGI Pager: svend_p AT pager.sgi.com 1500 Crittenden Lane Phone: (+1) 650 933 3618 Mountain View California 94043 USA MS 30-2-526 ************************************************** *************** |
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"John Hightower" wrote in message ... "Conan The Librarian" wrote in message Sorry to put you guys through so much trouble trying to decipher my previous post. :-) I tie the polypro on with the "U" under/around the hook shank (I start it above but let the thread rotate it under). I tied them above as well, but I like the look of the bump underneath, as it looks like a proper thorax. And it may be my imagination (or rationalization), but it seems to lock in place better when wrapped from underneath. Chuck Vance Pretty much how I do it, except I start with the post material below the shank of the hook and pull straight up on both ends, make a few cross wraps to stabilize and then wrap up the post to give a good thread base for the parachute hackle- trim to length. jh Which brings us to a variant of the first question..why not just lay the polypro across the hook (making a little cross), then wrap some Xs to secure it, and fold it up and make the U above the shaft? I thought parachutes were supposed to float the fly just below the surface, with just the parachute above. If the polypro provides floation, don't we want as little as possible below the hook? --riverman |
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I stack the hair first, but it takes longer than deer hair since its lighter and less straight. I rarely trimm the post, except for lifting the excess at a 45 degree angle and the cutting parallel with the shank. That leaves a the excess on the shank tapered. Sometimes (especially if its a biot body) Ill add some dugging to smoothen out the body taper. But as someone mentioned if I want a really thin body I dont use hair. And I havent noticed any significant differences in flotation etc. Peter Charles wrote: On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 17:55:23 -0800, Svend Tang-Petersen wrote: Wayne Knight wrote: "Stan Gula" wrote in message ... "Peter Charles" wrote in message Polypro doesn't absorb water (in my experience). A friend has turned me on to turkey flats for posts and while those do suck up water, I've found it's not a problem if you give the post a good shot of head cement and grease it up. The best in terms of floatation might be a thin strip of 2mm closed cell foam. I've experimented with two strips (orange and white) which is really easy to see. This gives me a good idea for a swap fly... Polypro, closed cell foam.....sheesh don't you guys ever tie a parachute fly the way God intended, good old fashioned animal hair? Calfs tail works pretty well, but I guess people are getting to lay to stack hairs. I use most methods mentioned but most of the time its either polypro or t-base depending on size and how slim I want the body. I used to use calftail on some of my earliest parachute ties but I went away from it as I thought it too heavy for posts -- that and the bulk. Did you find that your calftail equipped flies rode OK? Also, did you stack and tie in, leaving the post untrimmed, or trim it off square? Peter turn mailhot into hotmail to reply Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharl...ers/index.html -- Svend ************************************************** *************** Svend Tang-Petersen, MSc Email: svend AT sgi.com SGI Pager: svend_p AT pager.sgi.com 1500 Crittenden Lane Phone: (+1) 650 933 3618 Mountain View California 94043 USA MS 30-2-526 ************************************************** *************** |
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