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Lazarus Cooke June 16th, 2004 11:05 PM

tweed my good man?
 
In article . net,
Uncle Mac wrote:

"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message
om...

What's wrong with Donegal?


May I get back with you on that? It appears as if I must take a trip to the
County Donegal to investigate. BTW, how's the trout fishing in Donegal? I
really have to have another reason for going, you know.

For white trout it's not as good as it was (celebrated in 'A man may
fish' and Hugh Falkus's 'Sea trout fishing') , but for summer salmon
there's no equal. The river Finn must be one of the most prolific
grilse rivers in the British Isles. It also rises in the Bluestack
Mountains, one of most deserted and beautiful bits of the island, where
I would normally expect people in a bar to be speaking Irish rather
than English. don't know why riverman went to Wales.

Lazarus.

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Tim Carter June 17th, 2004 04:29 AM

WAS tweed my good man? NOW: Is the bet still on???
 

"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message
om...
In article . net,
Uncle Mac wrote:

"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message
om...

What's wrong with Donegal?


May I get back with you on that? It appears as if I must take a trip to

the
County Donegal to investigate. BTW, how's the trout fishing in Donegal?

I
really have to have another reason for going, you know.

For white trout it's not as good as it was (celebrated in 'A man may
fish' and Hugh Falkus's 'Sea trout fishing') , but for summer salmon
there's no equal. The river Finn must be one of the most prolific
grilse rivers in the British Isles. It also rises in the Bluestack
Mountains, one of most deserted and beautiful bits of the island, where
I would normally expect people in a bar to be speaking Irish rather
than English. don't know why riverman went to Wales.

Lazarus


How's Penn's Creek sound end of May next year? November is fast approaching
and no sign of Mr. bin Laden yet........



riverman June 20th, 2004 04:43 PM

tweed my good man?
 

"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message
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don't know why riverman went to Wales.


Well, there's always next year! I just hope the Donnegalians aren't as
possessive about their salmon fishing as the Welch (not you, Bill). I saw
some tremendous rises on the river Wye, but after spending an unsuccessful
hour trying to find the owner of the water, I had to give up trying to get
permission to fish there. A local store owner told me that I wouldn't have
meet their rod length/gear restrictions, or dress code anyway!

--riverman



Lazarus Cooke June 21st, 2004 03:45 PM

tweed my good man?
 
In article , riverman
wrote:

Well, there's always next year! I just hope the Donnegalians aren't as
possessive about their salmon fishing as the Welch (not you, Bill). I saw
some tremendous rises on the river Wye, but after spending an unsuccessful
hour trying to find the owner of the water, I had to give up trying to get
permission to fish there. A local store owner told me that I wouldn't have
meet their rod length/gear restrictions, or dress code anyway!


My favourite Donegal river, the Finn, forms the border between Northern
Ireland (British) & Southern Ireland (Republic) for much of its length.
A few wealthy types thought of buying up the rights, but when they
realised the political ramifications, decided against. One of the
reasons I prefer the fishing in Ireland is that it totally lacks this
bloody class distinction of England & Scotland (don't know about
Wales).

There is no dress code apart from 'wrap up warm and dry' and 'make sure
there's a flask of whiskey in your pocket'.

Don't forget they book I suggested - 'The Spawning run'. You'll enjoy
it even more now you've been to wales.

Lazarus

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Willi June 21st, 2004 03:54 PM

tweed my good man?
 


Lazarus Cooke wrote:

There is no dress code apart from 'wrap up warm and dry' and 'make sure
there's a flask of whiskey in your pocket'.



I thought your dress code remark was a joke! What type of dress code(s)
are there?

Willi




riverman June 21st, 2004 05:36 PM

tweed my good man?
 

"Willi" wrote in message
...


Lazarus Cooke wrote:

There is no dress code apart from 'wrap up warm and dry' and 'make sure
there's a flask of whiskey in your pocket'.



I thought your dress code remark was a joke! What type of dress code(s)
are there?


The guy I saw fishing there had on Wellingtons ('mud boots' to us
Ammericuns), knee length pants, a tweed jacket, a tie, one of those NY
cabbie hats and a pipe. I asked the store owner if they minded someone
dressed in more modern outdoor clothing, and he looked at me (dressed in
fishing shirt, pile vest, baseball cap and hiking shoes) and said "Well, the
owner of that particular stretch of water prefers folks to dress in the
'traditional' style...."

Then I mentioned that I was going to use a 9-foot 8wt rod, and he said "Oh,
no, then. It simply must be a two-handed rod, at least 12 feet in length if
you want to fish their water.."

--riverman



Lazarus Cooke June 21st, 2004 10:31 PM

tweed my good man?
 
In article , riverman
wrote:

(dressed in
fishing shirt, pile vest, baseball cap and hiking shoes)


My cousin Alice bought me one of those baseball caps from a fishing
store in Colorado as a Christmas present. I tried it, but couldn't see
the point.

a) it didn't keep the rain off - it was made of cotton.
b) it particularly didn't keep the rain off the back of my neck
c) It didn't keep salmon flies blown off course from hitting the back
of my neck.

So I'm still using the technologically superior fur felt hat with a
brim all round - or maybe a donegal tweed hat.

Those pile jackets are easy to wash, and they'r ehard wearing, but
they're not nearly as warm, weight for weight, as wool.

So I'm not going to do any dressing up in fancy gear to go fishing.
I'll stick with my tweed knickerbockers, jacket, and my felt hat, -
maybe a silk tie or cravat to keep my neck warm - and let the yuppies
and the fashion vicitms wear their baseball caps and pile vests.

Lazarus

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Wolfgang June 21st, 2004 11:55 PM

tweed my good man?
 

"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message
om...
In article , riverman
wrote:

(dressed in
fishing shirt, pile vest, baseball cap and hiking shoes)


My cousin Alice bought me one of those baseball caps from a fishing
store in Colorado as a Christmas present. I tried it, but couldn't see
the point.

a) it didn't keep the rain off - it was made of cotton.


No hat is the best solution for rain......you want a waterproof jacket with
an integral hood for that job.

b) it particularly didn't keep the rain off the back of my neck


See above....in spades.

c) It didn't keep salmon flies blown off course from hitting the back
of my neck.


Technique is a better solution than technology for this ill. Improved
technique also results in other....um...less tangible....benefits.

So I'm still using the technologically superior fur felt hat with a
brim all round - or maybe a donegal tweed hat.


The presumed fact that one item does a particular job better than another
doesn't necessarily make it technologically superior. A claw hammer will
not shorten a board as cleanly or efficiently as a crosscut saw. A claw
hammer is not technologiaclly inferior to a crosscut saw; it's simply less
suitable for performing a task it wasn't designed for than is an implement
that WAS designed for that task......try driving nails with a crosscut saw
some time.

I've worn many hats throughout my life. All of them were more suitable for
some things than for others. Some of them did nothing well. Others did
several things well. I have yet to find anything better suited to the
combined tasks of shading the eyes....especially against a low lying
sun...., staying on the head in a brisk breeze, and remaining comfortable in
warm weather than a good fitting, long billed cotton ball cap.

Those pile jackets are easy to wash, and they'r ehard wearing, but
they're not nearly as warm, weight for weight, as wool.

So I'm not going to do any dressing up in fancy gear to go fishing.
I'll stick with my tweed knickerbockers, jacket, and my felt hat, -
maybe a silk tie or cravat to keep my neck warm - and let the yuppies
and the fashion vicitms wear their baseball caps and pile vests.


Throughout my adult life I've experienced a good deal of social angst over
the fact that I appeared to be the only person left in the world without a
legitimate claim to victimhood. It is good to know that I have, at long
last, arrived. Thank you.

Wolfgang



Willi June 23rd, 2004 12:02 AM

tweed my good man?
 


riverman wrote:



The guy I saw fishing there had on Wellingtons ('mud boots' to us
Ammericuns), knee length pants, a tweed jacket, a tie, one of those NY
cabbie hats and a pipe. I asked the store owner if they minded someone
dressed in more modern outdoor clothing, and he looked at me (dressed in
fishing shirt, pile vest, baseball cap and hiking shoes) and said "Well, the
owner of that particular stretch of water prefers folks to dress in the
'traditional' style...."

Then I mentioned that I was going to use a 9-foot 8wt rod, and he said "Oh,
no, then. It simply must be a two-handed rod, at least 12 feet in length if
you want to fish their water.."



That's a different world!

It does make you appreciate the amount of public lands and water we have
here in the States. It's something we tend to take for granted.

Willi





Lazarus Cooke June 28th, 2004 10:44 AM

tweed my good man?
 
In article , Willi
wrote:

It does make you appreciate the amount of public lands and water we have
here in the States. It's something we tend to take for granted.


Socialist fishing, private medicine in the states. Other way round in
Wales.

Why can't those dam Welsh see that fishing is a right, while medicine
is a privilege?

L

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