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Frank Reid August 17th, 2004 12:35 PM

fishin for trout in lakes
 
so, what's the float tube story? sounds like maybe you were really trying
to get "deep" to the source?

snake


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Wayne Harrison August 17th, 2004 10:32 PM

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote

Daisy Mae has tried several personas here and through trial and error
she's concocted one that fools most of the geezers most of the time,
although a couple of those first personas had enough comic potential
and ribald sleaze factor to be WAY more interesting than she is now
as a sweet, naive earth momma.


well, she is sweet, most of the time, and somewhat of an "earth momma",
but she sure as hell is not naive. she is a very, very bright woman who
happens to be entranced by the blue ridge mountains and the places where
trout live. what the **** is wrong with that?

she is a newbie to the sport, and sincerely searches for advice from the
world's greatest ****ing fly fishing newsgroup. she deserves better than
she gets from you, forty. you may recall being introduced to a four foot
wide piece of water, and learning a few things about fishing it. and i
remember fishing penns for the first time, feeling like a hopeless,
clueless, bungling fool. which is very much the truth, up there.

if you were around her for an hour, you would think she was great.
remember that night in the smokies, at the first clave, when we all met for
the first time? that was reality, and it was far better than this piece of
**** newsgroup. why don't you learn from your experiences.

wayno



Wayne Harrison August 17th, 2004 10:32 PM

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote

Daisy Mae has tried several personas here and through trial and error
she's concocted one that fools most of the geezers most of the time,
although a couple of those first personas had enough comic potential
and ribald sleaze factor to be WAY more interesting than she is now
as a sweet, naive earth momma.


well, she is sweet, most of the time, and somewhat of an "earth momma",
but she sure as hell is not naive. she is a very, very bright woman who
happens to be entranced by the blue ridge mountains and the places where
trout live. what the **** is wrong with that?

she is a newbie to the sport, and sincerely searches for advice from the
world's greatest ****ing fly fishing newsgroup. she deserves better than
she gets from you, forty. you may recall being introduced to a four foot
wide piece of water, and learning a few things about fishing it. and i
remember fishing penns for the first time, feeling like a hopeless,
clueless, bungling fool. which is very much the truth, up there.

if you were around her for an hour, you would think she was great.
remember that night in the smokies, at the first clave, when we all met for
the first time? that was reality, and it was far better than this piece of
**** newsgroup. why don't you learn from your experiences.

wayno



Mark H. Bowen August 17th, 2004 11:28 PM

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"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...

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I'd never read this post before Frank. Yo could easily give Pat McManis a
run for his money! I can't wait 'til you begin writin' fro a profession.

Mark



Mark H. Bowen August 17th, 2004 11:28 PM

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"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...

http://tinyurl.com/4zj3c

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Frank Reid
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I'd never read this post before Frank. Yo could easily give Pat McManis a
run for his money! I can't wait 'til you begin writin' fro a profession.

Mark



Mark H. Bowen August 17th, 2004 11:38 PM

fishin for trout in lakes
 

wrote in message
...
Aw...well, look at all the earnest replies - ain't it all just sweeter
than a bottle of creme de menthe at front-row seats of the Hillary Duff
concert at Holly Hobbie Land, with whipped cream and sugar on top.


That's right dickie dean. Earnest replies! Not the Ernest T. Bass crap
that you post because if truth be know, you don't actually flyfish. Sure,
anyone can claim of going to Colorado to flyfish, but I don't by it. No you
are here merely to post your childish gibberish. Much like you mentor
Kenny, you have to be center of attention and if you aren't front and
center? you attack a decent individual.

Mark


Mark H. Bowen August 17th, 2004 11:38 PM

fishin for trout in lakes
 

wrote in message
...
Aw...well, look at all the earnest replies - ain't it all just sweeter
than a bottle of creme de menthe at front-row seats of the Hillary Duff
concert at Holly Hobbie Land, with whipped cream and sugar on top.


That's right dickie dean. Earnest replies! Not the Ernest T. Bass crap
that you post because if truth be know, you don't actually flyfish. Sure,
anyone can claim of going to Colorado to flyfish, but I don't by it. No you
are here merely to post your childish gibberish. Much like you mentor
Kenny, you have to be center of attention and if you aren't front and
center? you attack a decent individual.

Mark


[email protected] August 18th, 2004 12:18 AM

fishin for trout in lakes
 
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:38:05 -0400, "Mark H. Bowen"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
Aw...well, look at all the earnest replies - ain't it all just sweeter
than a bottle of creme de menthe at front-row seats of the Hillary Duff
concert at Holly Hobbie Land, with whipped cream and sugar on top.


That's right dickie dean. Earnest replies! Not the Ernest T. Bass crap
that you post because if truth be know, you don't actually flyfish. Sure,
anyone can claim of going to Colorado to flyfish, but I don't by it. No you
are here merely to post your childish gibberish. Much like you mentor
Kenny, you have to be center of attention and if you aren't front and
center? you attack a decent individual.


Er, wrong on all counts. I didn't "attack a decent individual"
(assuming you mean "snake"), I jokingly suggested you two take your
wooin' and cooin' to email (and plainly called it net nanny shtick), and
made the serious suggestion about trimming replies. You then told me to
**** off, and "snake" replied with a smart-assed reply. All fair
enough, but I'll treat you and "snake" just as I would anyone else, male
or female - you'll receive what you give. And if you don't like any or
all of it, YOU can **** off...in fact, even if you do like it all, you
can **** off, AFAIAC...

And as to fishing, I suspect I've done more fishing, fly and otherwise,
and from an earlier age, then you and many others here, but like most
other things, I don't feel the slightest need to prove it to you or
anyone else.


[email protected] August 18th, 2004 12:18 AM

fishin for trout in lakes
 
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:38:05 -0400, "Mark H. Bowen"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
Aw...well, look at all the earnest replies - ain't it all just sweeter
than a bottle of creme de menthe at front-row seats of the Hillary Duff
concert at Holly Hobbie Land, with whipped cream and sugar on top.


That's right dickie dean. Earnest replies! Not the Ernest T. Bass crap
that you post because if truth be know, you don't actually flyfish. Sure,
anyone can claim of going to Colorado to flyfish, but I don't by it. No you
are here merely to post your childish gibberish. Much like you mentor
Kenny, you have to be center of attention and if you aren't front and
center? you attack a decent individual.


Er, wrong on all counts. I didn't "attack a decent individual"
(assuming you mean "snake"), I jokingly suggested you two take your
wooin' and cooin' to email (and plainly called it net nanny shtick), and
made the serious suggestion about trimming replies. You then told me to
**** off, and "snake" replied with a smart-assed reply. All fair
enough, but I'll treat you and "snake" just as I would anyone else, male
or female - you'll receive what you give. And if you don't like any or
all of it, YOU can **** off...in fact, even if you do like it all, you
can **** off, AFAIAC...

And as to fishing, I suspect I've done more fishing, fly and otherwise,
and from an earlier age, then you and many others here, but like most
other things, I don't feel the slightest need to prove it to you or
anyone else.


RalphH August 18th, 2004 04:33 AM

fishin for trout in lakes
 
I'm no really familiar with the Chan/Morris book but have read many articles
by Chan and what he writes is worthwhile. Also look to books by Jack Shaw
and Phil Rowley who both hail from the Kamloops area of BC which is a major
stillwater centre. Shaw - who passed away a couple of years ago, was known
as an innovator and master angler for over 40 years.

The "Kamloops" book by Steve Raymond is also worthwhile.

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"Padishar Creel" wrote in message
...
Brian Chan is considered, by many, as the authority on stillwater fly
fishing. He and Skip Morris wrote, "Fly Fishing Trout Lakes" and I have
read it and learned a great deal. Also, "Strategies for Stillwater" by

Dave
Hughes comes highly recommended as well.

chris

"RalphH" wrote in message
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"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i

with
my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his

first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout

in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?


you ever fish in there mark?

snakefiddler



It is somewhat different to fish a lake than river. The biggest

difference
is that the lake is relative featureless. In a river you easily see

pools,
riffles and flats etc. Trout in lakes tend to concentrate in certain

areas
just as in rivers; shoals, sunken islands, drop offs, creek inlets,

spring
holes, treed shorelines etc. Many who fish a new lake for the 1st time

find
the drop off between shoreline shoals and deep water then 360 the lake
trolling a basic fly like a wooly bugger, a leech or a scud. This will
usually locate fish. Then concentrate on those areas.

The forage for trout in lakes is usally a bit different as well. In

general
midges, scuds, damsel nymphs and dragons are important, caddis less so

and
stone flies all but absent. If I don't know what food predominates I

use
a
smaller wooly bugger (#10) in olive if the lake has lots of weed and in
black or brown if the bottom is mud. If I catch a fish I'll sample it's
stomach contentrs either by autopsy or with a stomach pump.

A third consideration for lakes is stratification. The water stratifies

by
temperature. When surface temps exceed 65 degrees trout will not feed on
shoals or close to the surface. In summer ideal temps may be 30 feet

down.
Time to get out Type 3,4 or even type 6 full sinking lines.

Some years a go Randall Kaufman published a good book on lake fishing. I
think it's still in print.







RalphH August 18th, 2004 04:33 AM

fishin for trout in lakes
 
I'm no really familiar with the Chan/Morris book but have read many articles
by Chan and what he writes is worthwhile. Also look to books by Jack Shaw
and Phil Rowley who both hail from the Kamloops area of BC which is a major
stillwater centre. Shaw - who passed away a couple of years ago, was known
as an innovator and master angler for over 40 years.

The "Kamloops" book by Steve Raymond is also worthwhile.

--

there are no numbers in my email addy. Please remove to reply
"Padishar Creel" wrote in message
...
Brian Chan is considered, by many, as the authority on stillwater fly
fishing. He and Skip Morris wrote, "Fly Fishing Trout Lakes" and I have
read it and learned a great deal. Also, "Strategies for Stillwater" by

Dave
Hughes comes highly recommended as well.

chris

"RalphH" wrote in message
news:qlfUc.128067$gE.6256@pd7tw3no...


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"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i

with
my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his

first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout

in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?


you ever fish in there mark?

snakefiddler



It is somewhat different to fish a lake than river. The biggest

difference
is that the lake is relative featureless. In a river you easily see

pools,
riffles and flats etc. Trout in lakes tend to concentrate in certain

areas
just as in rivers; shoals, sunken islands, drop offs, creek inlets,

spring
holes, treed shorelines etc. Many who fish a new lake for the 1st time

find
the drop off between shoreline shoals and deep water then 360 the lake
trolling a basic fly like a wooly bugger, a leech or a scud. This will
usually locate fish. Then concentrate on those areas.

The forage for trout in lakes is usally a bit different as well. In

general
midges, scuds, damsel nymphs and dragons are important, caddis less so

and
stone flies all but absent. If I don't know what food predominates I

use
a
smaller wooly bugger (#10) in olive if the lake has lots of weed and in
black or brown if the bottom is mud. If I catch a fish I'll sample it's
stomach contentrs either by autopsy or with a stomach pump.

A third consideration for lakes is stratification. The water stratifies

by
temperature. When surface temps exceed 65 degrees trout will not feed on
shoals or close to the surface. In summer ideal temps may be 30 feet

down.
Time to get out Type 3,4 or even type 6 full sinking lines.

Some years a go Randall Kaufman published a good book on lake fishing. I
think it's still in print.







snakefiddler August 18th, 2004 12:57 PM

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...
so, what's the float tube story? sounds like maybe you were really

trying
to get "deep" to the source?

snake


http://tinyurl.com/4zj3c

--
Frank Reid
Reverse Email to reply


hilarious
thanks for posting that for me - helluva story. is that where the full reid
comes from, or is that another good tale? didjya come out with any wounds,
besides the one to your ego, of course ;-)

snake- who seems to be perpetually bruised from falling in water, and
climbing big rocks.........





snakefiddler August 18th, 2004 12:57 PM

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...
so, what's the float tube story? sounds like maybe you were really

trying
to get "deep" to the source?

snake


http://tinyurl.com/4zj3c

--
Frank Reid
Reverse Email to reply


hilarious
thanks for posting that for me - helluva story. is that where the full reid
comes from, or is that another good tale? didjya come out with any wounds,
besides the one to your ego, of course ;-)

snake- who seems to be perpetually bruised from falling in water, and
climbing big rocks.........





snakefiddler August 18th, 2004 01:13 PM

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
r.com...

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote

Daisy Mae has tried several personas here and through trial and error
she's concocted one that fools most of the geezers most of the time,
although a couple of those first personas had enough comic potential
and ribald sleaze factor to be WAY more interesting than she is now
as a sweet, naive earth momma.


well, some shallow people will always find the "sleaze factor" more
interesting.....
but maybe one day you will past that.



well, she is sweet, most of the time, and somewhat of an "earth

momma",
but she sure as hell is not naive. she is a very, very bright woman who
happens to be entranced by the blue ridge mountains and the places where
trout live. what the **** is wrong with that?

she is a newbie to the sport, and sincerely searches for advice from

the
world's greatest ****ing fly fishing newsgroup. she deserves better than
she gets from you, forty. you may recall being introduced to a four foot
wide piece of water, and learning a few things about fishing it. and i
remember fishing penns for the first time, feeling like a hopeless,
clueless, bungling fool. which is very much the truth, up there.

if you were around her for an hour, you would think she was great.
remember that night in the smokies, at the first clave, when we all met

for
the first time? that was reality, and it was far better than this piece

of
**** newsgroup. why don't you learn from your experiences.

wayno


thank you for the kind words, councelor. you truley are a gentlemen.

really, though, i think that you are wasting your time on forty. the man
has clearly lost it, is totally hung up on some ridiculous ****, and cannot
even be satisfied that i am a legitiamte poster", now that i am fly fishing.
he still finds it necessary to revert to the only thing he "has on me", and
clearly experiences great satisfaction in doing so,
although several folks here have expressed weariness of the routine.



btb, forty, how's your blood pressure. i mean, with all this hostility, it
can't be good. i, on the other hand, am not the least bit bothered by your
schtick, except to the extent that it may annoy others.
you might consider letting go of this ****, (and at the same time letting go
of your dick.) or maybe it just feels too good..........


snakefiddler- 80/65- (regularly)




snakefiddler August 18th, 2004 01:13 PM

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
r.com...

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote

Daisy Mae has tried several personas here and through trial and error
she's concocted one that fools most of the geezers most of the time,
although a couple of those first personas had enough comic potential
and ribald sleaze factor to be WAY more interesting than she is now
as a sweet, naive earth momma.


well, some shallow people will always find the "sleaze factor" more
interesting.....
but maybe one day you will past that.



well, she is sweet, most of the time, and somewhat of an "earth

momma",
but she sure as hell is not naive. she is a very, very bright woman who
happens to be entranced by the blue ridge mountains and the places where
trout live. what the **** is wrong with that?

she is a newbie to the sport, and sincerely searches for advice from

the
world's greatest ****ing fly fishing newsgroup. she deserves better than
she gets from you, forty. you may recall being introduced to a four foot
wide piece of water, and learning a few things about fishing it. and i
remember fishing penns for the first time, feeling like a hopeless,
clueless, bungling fool. which is very much the truth, up there.

if you were around her for an hour, you would think she was great.
remember that night in the smokies, at the first clave, when we all met

for
the first time? that was reality, and it was far better than this piece

of
**** newsgroup. why don't you learn from your experiences.

wayno


thank you for the kind words, councelor. you truley are a gentlemen.

really, though, i think that you are wasting your time on forty. the man
has clearly lost it, is totally hung up on some ridiculous ****, and cannot
even be satisfied that i am a legitiamte poster", now that i am fly fishing.
he still finds it necessary to revert to the only thing he "has on me", and
clearly experiences great satisfaction in doing so,
although several folks here have expressed weariness of the routine.



btb, forty, how's your blood pressure. i mean, with all this hostility, it
can't be good. i, on the other hand, am not the least bit bothered by your
schtick, except to the extent that it may annoy others.
you might consider letting go of this ****, (and at the same time letting go
of your dick.) or maybe it just feels too good..........


snakefiddler- 80/65- (regularly)




Mark Bowen August 19th, 2004 11:03 PM

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"GregP" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:18:14 -0500, wrote:

And as to fishing, I suspect I've done more fishing, fly and otherwise,
and from an earlier age, then you and many others here, but like most
other things, I don't feel the slightest need to prove it to you or
anyone else.


... like all true heroes .... :-)


Actually, an accurate translation of 'lil Ricky's words would be:

"As to fishing, I suspect that my personal man-servant, Mr. French, has baited more
hooks for me, than I have ever baited for myself. I'd really like to join you guyz
one day for a 'clave, but I don't touch icky fish with my own hands!"

Mark



Mark Bowen August 19th, 2004 11:03 PM

fishin for trout in lakes
 

"GregP" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:18:14 -0500, wrote:

And as to fishing, I suspect I've done more fishing, fly and otherwise,
and from an earlier age, then you and many others here, but like most
other things, I don't feel the slightest need to prove it to you or
anyone else.


... like all true heroes .... :-)


Actually, an accurate translation of 'lil Ricky's words would be:

"As to fishing, I suspect that my personal man-servant, Mr. French, has baited more
hooks for me, than I have ever baited for myself. I'd really like to join you guyz
one day for a 'clave, but I don't touch icky fish with my own hands!"

Mark



[email protected] August 19th, 2004 11:15 PM

fishin for trout in lakes
 
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:03:37 -0400, "Mark Bowen"
wrote:


"GregP" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:18:14 -0500, wrote:

And as to fishing, I suspect I've done more fishing, fly and otherwise,
and from an earlier age, then you and many others here, but like most
other things, I don't feel the slightest need to prove it to you or
anyone else.


... like all true heroes .... :-)


Actually, an accurate translation of 'lil Ricky's words would be:

"As to fishing, I suspect that my personal man-servant, Mr. French, has baited more
hooks for me, than I have ever baited for myself. I'd really like to join you guyz
one day for a 'clave, but I don't touch icky fish with my own hands!"


Actually, a more-accurate translation of what lil' Ricky's words would
have been had lil' Ricky wanted to say the above would be:

"As to fishing, I suspect that my personal man-servant, Frothingham, has
baited more hooks for me, than I have ever baited myself. I'd have no
interest in joining some of the dip****s around here for a 'clave or
anything else. Besides, Frothingham doesn't associate with that type
anyway, and I'm not touching any icky fish with my own hands!"

Of course, the best translation would be:

Lil' Ricky doesn't feel the slightest need to prove anything to anyone,
hence, lil' Ricky said he didn't feel the slightest need to prove
anything to anyone. As always, YMMV.

HTH,
lil' Ricky


[email protected] August 19th, 2004 11:15 PM

fishin for trout in lakes
 
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:03:37 -0400, "Mark Bowen"
wrote:


"GregP" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:18:14 -0500, wrote:

And as to fishing, I suspect I've done more fishing, fly and otherwise,
and from an earlier age, then you and many others here, but like most
other things, I don't feel the slightest need to prove it to you or
anyone else.


... like all true heroes .... :-)


Actually, an accurate translation of 'lil Ricky's words would be:

"As to fishing, I suspect that my personal man-servant, Mr. French, has baited more
hooks for me, than I have ever baited for myself. I'd really like to join you guyz
one day for a 'clave, but I don't touch icky fish with my own hands!"


Actually, a more-accurate translation of what lil' Ricky's words would
have been had lil' Ricky wanted to say the above would be:

"As to fishing, I suspect that my personal man-servant, Frothingham, has
baited more hooks for me, than I have ever baited myself. I'd have no
interest in joining some of the dip****s around here for a 'clave or
anything else. Besides, Frothingham doesn't associate with that type
anyway, and I'm not touching any icky fish with my own hands!"

Of course, the best translation would be:

Lil' Ricky doesn't feel the slightest need to prove anything to anyone,
hence, lil' Ricky said he didn't feel the slightest need to prove
anything to anyone. As always, YMMV.

HTH,
lil' Ricky


daytripper August 20th, 2004 02:48 AM

fishin for trout in lakes
 
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 17:15:12 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:03:37 -0400, "Mark Bowen"
wrote:


"GregP" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:18:14 -0500,
wrote:

And as to fishing, I suspect I've done more fishing, fly and otherwise,
and from an earlier age, then you and many others here, but like most
other things, I don't feel the slightest need to prove it to you or
anyone else.

... like all true heroes .... :-)


Actually, an accurate translation of 'lil Ricky's words would be:

"As to fishing, I suspect that my personal man-servant, Mr. French, has baited more
hooks for me, than I have ever baited for myself. I'd really like to join you guyz
one day for a 'clave, but I don't touch icky fish with my own hands!"


Actually, a more-accurate translation of what lil' Ricky's words would
have been had lil' Ricky wanted to say the above would be:

"As to fishing, I suspect that my personal man-servant, Frothingham, has
baited more hooks for me, than I have ever baited myself. I'd have no
interest in joining some of the dip****s around here for a 'clave or
anything else. Besides, Frothingham doesn't associate with that type
anyway, and I'm not touching any icky fish with my own hands!"

Of course, the best translation would be:

Lil' Ricky doesn't feel the slightest need to prove anything to anyone,
hence, lil' Ricky said he didn't feel the slightest need to prove
anything to anyone. As always, YMMV.

HTH,
lil' Ricky



Hey now!

I like this Lil' Ricky much better than the ****tard Richard guy!

/daytripper (Though he ought to spell it Li'l Ricky, of course ;-)

daytripper August 20th, 2004 02:48 AM

fishin for trout in lakes
 
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 17:15:12 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:03:37 -0400, "Mark Bowen"
wrote:


"GregP" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:18:14 -0500,
wrote:

And as to fishing, I suspect I've done more fishing, fly and otherwise,
and from an earlier age, then you and many others here, but like most
other things, I don't feel the slightest need to prove it to you or
anyone else.

... like all true heroes .... :-)


Actually, an accurate translation of 'lil Ricky's words would be:

"As to fishing, I suspect that my personal man-servant, Mr. French, has baited more
hooks for me, than I have ever baited for myself. I'd really like to join you guyz
one day for a 'clave, but I don't touch icky fish with my own hands!"


Actually, a more-accurate translation of what lil' Ricky's words would
have been had lil' Ricky wanted to say the above would be:

"As to fishing, I suspect that my personal man-servant, Frothingham, has
baited more hooks for me, than I have ever baited myself. I'd have no
interest in joining some of the dip****s around here for a 'clave or
anything else. Besides, Frothingham doesn't associate with that type
anyway, and I'm not touching any icky fish with my own hands!"

Of course, the best translation would be:

Lil' Ricky doesn't feel the slightest need to prove anything to anyone,
hence, lil' Ricky said he didn't feel the slightest need to prove
anything to anyone. As always, YMMV.

HTH,
lil' Ricky



Hey now!

I like this Lil' Ricky much better than the ****tard Richard guy!

/daytripper (Though he ought to spell it Li'l Ricky, of course ;-)

Ken Fortenberry August 20th, 2004 03:01 AM

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daytripper wrote:
wrote:
snip
HTH,
lil' Ricky


Hey now!

I like this Lil' Ricky much better than the ****tard Richard guy!

/daytripper (Though he ought to spell it Li'l Ricky, of course ;-)


I guess roff really is darwinian and the ****tard Richard guy never,
ever had even the remotest chance of survival around here, but still
he was amusing in a "slow down and look at the car wreck" sort of way.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry August 20th, 2004 03:01 AM

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daytripper wrote:
wrote:
snip
HTH,
lil' Ricky


Hey now!

I like this Lil' Ricky much better than the ****tard Richard guy!

/daytripper (Though he ought to spell it Li'l Ricky, of course ;-)


I guess roff really is darwinian and the ****tard Richard guy never,
ever had even the remotest chance of survival around here, but still
he was amusing in a "slow down and look at the car wreck" sort of way.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[email protected] August 20th, 2004 03:22 AM

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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 01:48:00 GMT, daytripper
wrote:

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 17:15:12 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:03:37 -0400, "Mark Bowen"
wrote:


"GregP" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:18:14 -0500,
wrote:

And as to fishing, I suspect I've done more fishing, fly and otherwise,
and from an earlier age, then you and many others here, but like most
other things, I don't feel the slightest need to prove it to you or
anyone else.

... like all true heroes .... :-)

Actually, an accurate translation of 'lil Ricky's words would be:

"As to fishing, I suspect that my personal man-servant, Mr. French, has baited more
hooks for me, than I have ever baited for myself. I'd really like to join you guyz
one day for a 'clave, but I don't touch icky fish with my own hands!"


Actually, a more-accurate translation of what lil' Ricky's words would
have been had lil' Ricky wanted to say the above would be:

"As to fishing, I suspect that my personal man-servant, Frothingham, has
baited more hooks for me, than I have ever baited myself. I'd have no
interest in joining some of the dip****s around here for a 'clave or
anything else. Besides, Frothingham doesn't associate with that type
anyway, and I'm not touching any icky fish with my own hands!"

Of course, the best translation would be:

Lil' Ricky doesn't feel the slightest need to prove anything to anyone,
hence, lil' Ricky said he didn't feel the slightest need to prove
anything to anyone. As always, YMMV.

HTH,
lil' Ricky



Hey now!


Dang! I KNEW you reminded me of someone...Hank Kingsley! But where's
that self-important boob Larry?

HTH,
Richard

[email protected] August 20th, 2004 03:22 AM

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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 01:48:00 GMT, daytripper
wrote:

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 17:15:12 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:03:37 -0400, "Mark Bowen"
wrote:


"GregP" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:18:14 -0500,
wrote:

And as to fishing, I suspect I've done more fishing, fly and otherwise,
and from an earlier age, then you and many others here, but like most
other things, I don't feel the slightest need to prove it to you or
anyone else.

... like all true heroes .... :-)

Actually, an accurate translation of 'lil Ricky's words would be:

"As to fishing, I suspect that my personal man-servant, Mr. French, has baited more
hooks for me, than I have ever baited for myself. I'd really like to join you guyz
one day for a 'clave, but I don't touch icky fish with my own hands!"


Actually, a more-accurate translation of what lil' Ricky's words would
have been had lil' Ricky wanted to say the above would be:

"As to fishing, I suspect that my personal man-servant, Frothingham, has
baited more hooks for me, than I have ever baited myself. I'd have no
interest in joining some of the dip****s around here for a 'clave or
anything else. Besides, Frothingham doesn't associate with that type
anyway, and I'm not touching any icky fish with my own hands!"

Of course, the best translation would be:

Lil' Ricky doesn't feel the slightest need to prove anything to anyone,
hence, lil' Ricky said he didn't feel the slightest need to prove
anything to anyone. As always, YMMV.

HTH,
lil' Ricky



Hey now!


Dang! I KNEW you reminded me of someone...Hank Kingsley! But where's
that self-important boob Larry?

HTH,
Richard

[email protected] August 20th, 2004 03:23 AM

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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 02:01:06 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

daytripper wrote:
wrote:
snip
HTH,
lil' Ricky


Hey now!

I like this Lil' Ricky much better than the ****tard Richard guy!

/daytripper (Though he ought to spell it Li'l Ricky, of course ;-)


I guess roff really is darwinian and the ****tard Richard guy never,
ever had even the remotest chance of survival around here, but still
he was amusing in a "slow down and look at the car wreck" sort of way.


Ahhh...HERE'S the self-important boob...

HTH,
Richard


[email protected] August 20th, 2004 03:23 AM

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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 02:01:06 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

daytripper wrote:
wrote:
snip
HTH,
lil' Ricky


Hey now!

I like this Lil' Ricky much better than the ****tard Richard guy!

/daytripper (Though he ought to spell it Li'l Ricky, of course ;-)


I guess roff really is darwinian and the ****tard Richard guy never,
ever had even the remotest chance of survival around here, but still
he was amusing in a "slow down and look at the car wreck" sort of way.


Ahhh...HERE'S the self-important boob...

HTH,
Richard


daytripper August 20th, 2004 03:35 AM

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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:23:10 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 02:01:06 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

daytripper wrote:
wrote:
snip
HTH,
lil' Ricky

Hey now!

I like this Lil' Ricky much better than the ****tard Richard guy!

/daytripper (Though he ought to spell it Li'l Ricky, of course ;-)


I guess roff really is darwinian and the ****tard Richard guy never,
ever had even the remotest chance of survival around here, but still
he was amusing in a "slow down and look at the car wreck" sort of way.


Ahhh...HERE'S the self-important boob...

HTH,
Richard


[..../] DING! DING! DING!

"Self-important Boob Irony Meter With Overload Detector"

/daytripper (Bring back Li'l Ricky! ;-)

daytripper August 20th, 2004 03:35 AM

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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:23:10 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 02:01:06 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

daytripper wrote:
wrote:
snip
HTH,
lil' Ricky

Hey now!

I like this Lil' Ricky much better than the ****tard Richard guy!

/daytripper (Though he ought to spell it Li'l Ricky, of course ;-)


I guess roff really is darwinian and the ****tard Richard guy never,
ever had even the remotest chance of survival around here, but still
he was amusing in a "slow down and look at the car wreck" sort of way.


Ahhh...HERE'S the self-important boob...

HTH,
Richard


[..../] DING! DING! DING!

"Self-important Boob Irony Meter With Overload Detector"

/daytripper (Bring back Li'l Ricky! ;-)

[email protected] August 20th, 2004 05:06 AM

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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 02:35:47 GMT, daytripper
wrote:

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:23:10 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 02:01:06 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

daytripper wrote:
wrote:
snip
HTH,
lil' Ricky

Hey now!

I like this Lil' Ricky much better than the ****tard Richard guy!

/daytripper (Though he ought to spell it Li'l Ricky, of course ;-)

I guess roff really is darwinian and the ****tard Richard guy never,
ever had even the remotest chance of survival around here, but still
he was amusing in a "slow down and look at the car wreck" sort of way.


Ahhh...HERE'S the self-important boob...

HTH,
Richard


[..../] DING! DING! DING!

"Self-important Boob Irony Meter With Overload Detector"

/daytripper (Bring back Li'l Ricky! ;-)


Ya know, Hank, I understand that folks of your advanced age and, well,
not to be unkind, but limited intellect have trouble with following
threads, but at least TRY to keep up...

Lil' Richa...er, no, that doesn't sound quite right...besides, a dingo
ate my piano...


[email protected] August 20th, 2004 05:06 AM

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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 02:35:47 GMT, daytripper
wrote:

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:23:10 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 02:01:06 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

daytripper wrote:
wrote:
snip
HTH,
lil' Ricky

Hey now!

I like this Lil' Ricky much better than the ****tard Richard guy!

/daytripper (Though he ought to spell it Li'l Ricky, of course ;-)

I guess roff really is darwinian and the ****tard Richard guy never,
ever had even the remotest chance of survival around here, but still
he was amusing in a "slow down and look at the car wreck" sort of way.


Ahhh...HERE'S the self-important boob...

HTH,
Richard


[..../] DING! DING! DING!

"Self-important Boob Irony Meter With Overload Detector"

/daytripper (Bring back Li'l Ricky! ;-)


Ya know, Hank, I understand that folks of your advanced age and, well,
not to be unkind, but limited intellect have trouble with following
threads, but at least TRY to keep up...

Lil' Richa...er, no, that doesn't sound quite right...besides, a dingo
ate my piano...


J. Russell August 20th, 2004 06:39 PM

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daytripper wrote:
wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:


/daytripper (Bring back Li'l Ricky! ;-)


To hell with Li'l Ricky. Lucy and Desi can carry this thing alone...

J. Russell August 20th, 2004 06:39 PM

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daytripper wrote:
wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:


/daytripper (Bring back Li'l Ricky! ;-)


To hell with Li'l Ricky. Lucy and Desi can carry this thing alone...

daytripper August 20th, 2004 10:02 PM

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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 23:06:20 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 02:35:47 GMT, daytripper
wrote:

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:23:10 -0500,
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 02:01:06 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

daytripper wrote:
wrote:
snip
HTH,
lil' Ricky

Hey now!

I like this Lil' Ricky much better than the ****tard Richard guy!

/daytripper (Though he ought to spell it Li'l Ricky, of course ;-)

I guess roff really is darwinian and the ****tard Richard guy never,
ever had even the remotest chance of survival around here, but still
he was amusing in a "slow down and look at the car wreck" sort of way.

Ahhh...HERE'S the self-important boob...

HTH,
Richard


[..../] DING! DING! DING!

"Self-important Boob Irony Meter With Overload Detector"

/daytripper (Bring back Li'l Ricky! ;-)


Ya know, Hank, I understand that folks of your advanced age and, well,
not to be unkind, but limited intellect have trouble with following
threads, but at least TRY to keep up...

Lil' Richa...er, no, that doesn't sound quite right...besides, a dingo
ate my piano...


Whatever.

/daytripper (Can't argue with a guy who's middle name is "Thanks Dad" ;-)

daytripper August 20th, 2004 10:02 PM

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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 23:06:20 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 02:35:47 GMT, daytripper
wrote:

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:23:10 -0500,
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 02:01:06 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

daytripper wrote:
wrote:
snip
HTH,
lil' Ricky

Hey now!

I like this Lil' Ricky much better than the ****tard Richard guy!

/daytripper (Though he ought to spell it Li'l Ricky, of course ;-)

I guess roff really is darwinian and the ****tard Richard guy never,
ever had even the remotest chance of survival around here, but still
he was amusing in a "slow down and look at the car wreck" sort of way.

Ahhh...HERE'S the self-important boob...

HTH,
Richard


[..../] DING! DING! DING!

"Self-important Boob Irony Meter With Overload Detector"

/daytripper (Bring back Li'l Ricky! ;-)


Ya know, Hank, I understand that folks of your advanced age and, well,
not to be unkind, but limited intellect have trouble with following
threads, but at least TRY to keep up...

Lil' Richa...er, no, that doesn't sound quite right...besides, a dingo
ate my piano...


Whatever.

/daytripper (Can't argue with a guy who's middle name is "Thanks Dad" ;-)

[email protected] August 21st, 2004 02:00 AM

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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 21:02:05 GMT, daytripper
wrote:
Whatever.


Getting a head-start on the second childhood? Maybe you and Sgt. Mitty
can play together after nap time...

/daytripper (Can't argue with a guy who's middle name is "Thanks Dad" ;-)


Um, any plans to try that (remarkably naive) strategy on Ken or
Wolfgang? I'd bet a shiny new nickel that doing so would demonstrate
the serious need for a self-clue-batting...

HTH,
R
....if they'd each argue with a guy whose middle name is...well, whatever
their middle names are, what chance does "Thanks Dad" stand?


Cyli August 24th, 2004 03:25 AM

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On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 07:35:09 -0400, Frank Reid
wrote:

so, what's the float tube story? sounds like maybe you were really trying
to get "deep" to the source?

snake


http://tinyurl.com/4zj3c


Thanks, Frank. I so love that story.

Cyli
http://www.visi.com/~cyli

Cyli August 24th, 2004 04:07 AM

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On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:44:10 -0400, "Mark H. Bowen"
wrote:

Kenny, you're the only phony here. You pretend to have friends here, yet
you couldn't attend a 'clave if your life depended upon it!

Please come down for the Oct. 'clave. Really, I'd just love to see you
again.

Mark


He attended the Driftless Clave and turned out to be a nice guy all
the time. I found him to be likeable. And his dog was fine, which
adds to my estimation of a person in general.

However, he does seem to have some big problem with snake that brings
his venom out.

Cyli
http://www.visi.com/~cyli


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