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Sue & I are fine here. everything that could get broken was already busted by Charley. No new damage here. Moe is in up state
New York just east of Buffalo and is doing fine. I talked to him yesterday and he's complaining it's getting cold already. Doc ================================================== ================ "Calif Bill" wrote in message k.net... Doc, how did you and Moe survive Wind #2? |
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Me too! I'm enjoying rofb much better now, with no Al & Rodney.
Warren :-) "Charles B. Summers" wrote in message . .. I'm so glad that I kill-filed Rodney a LONG time ago... |
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Me too! I'm enjoying rofb much better now, with no Al & Rodney.
Warren :-) "Charles B. Summers" wrote in message . .. I'm so glad that I kill-filed Rodney a LONG time ago... |
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I thought Moe had returned to the land of sun and bugs.
Good to hear that no more damage was done. Bill "Doc (The Tin Boat King)" wrote in message ... Sue & I are fine here. everything that could get broken was already busted by Charley. No new damage here. Moe is in up state New York just east of Buffalo and is doing fine. I talked to him yesterday and he's complaining it's getting cold already. Doc ================================================== ================ "Calif Bill" wrote in message k.net... Doc, how did you and Moe survive Wind #2? |
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I thought Moe had returned to the land of sun and bugs.
Good to hear that no more damage was done. Bill "Doc (The Tin Boat King)" wrote in message ... Sue & I are fine here. everything that could get broken was already busted by Charley. No new damage here. Moe is in up state New York just east of Buffalo and is doing fine. I talked to him yesterday and he's complaining it's getting cold already. Doc ================================================== ================ "Calif Bill" wrote in message k.net... Doc, how did you and Moe survive Wind #2? |
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I thought Moe had returned to the land of sun and bugs.
Good to hear that no more damage was done. Bill "Doc (The Tin Boat King)" wrote in message ... Sue & I are fine here. everything that could get broken was already busted by Charley. No new damage here. Moe is in up state New York just east of Buffalo and is doing fine. I talked to him yesterday and he's complaining it's getting cold already. Doc ================================================== ================ "Calif Bill" wrote in message k.net... Doc, how did you and Moe survive Wind #2? |
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Go get em Steve, I expect pictures.
You need the long leader in the shallows to present the bait off the bottom. The angle of presentation is very thin in the shallows because you cast from a longer distance. Warren -- http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com 2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions "Steve & Chris Clark" wrote in message ... OK, I understand what you mean now. I was thinking you were using a DS rig with a slider bobber, you know the ones that has the teeny rubber thingie you slide on the line that is called a "stopper" because the float slides up and down the line 'till it is "stopped" by the "bobber stopper". This little rubber thing even comes through the eyes of the rod and lays in on the spool of the reel. Good killer rig for suspending fish such as the walleye and sometimes the SMB ;-) With the floating plastic I was thinking you had the shot only inches away from the floating plastic bait of some kind. This weekend I am going to try a new method using the underwater camera, with an old rod and a quick release attached on the camera end. There are some huge fish suspending hooks on the graph at fifteen feet, wonder what type of shotting ya call this? I always say"if at first you don't succeed, cheat and then give up!" :-) -- Steve "go-bassn" wrote in message ... I've done that too Steve. I'm not sure what you mean by the bobber stopper/floating plastic. ds is deadly on bedders of both species, especially in shallow water. I use about a 36" leader for shallow dropshotting, everything else just the ordinary. Warren "Steve & Chris Clark" wrote in message ... Warren, could you elaborate on that 1' DS method? Did you, by chance, use it from a distance on bedded bass with a bobber stopper or was the plastic of the floating variety? -- Steve "go-bassn" wrote in message ... You can ds anywhere you cr, shallow & deep water included. I've ds'ed in 1 foot of water with great success. WW --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.762 / Virus Database: 510 - Release Date: 9/13/04 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.762 / Virus Database: 510 - Release Date: 9/13/04 |
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Go get em Steve, I expect pictures.
You need the long leader in the shallows to present the bait off the bottom. The angle of presentation is very thin in the shallows because you cast from a longer distance. Warren -- http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com 2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions "Steve & Chris Clark" wrote in message ... OK, I understand what you mean now. I was thinking you were using a DS rig with a slider bobber, you know the ones that has the teeny rubber thingie you slide on the line that is called a "stopper" because the float slides up and down the line 'till it is "stopped" by the "bobber stopper". This little rubber thing even comes through the eyes of the rod and lays in on the spool of the reel. Good killer rig for suspending fish such as the walleye and sometimes the SMB ;-) With the floating plastic I was thinking you had the shot only inches away from the floating plastic bait of some kind. This weekend I am going to try a new method using the underwater camera, with an old rod and a quick release attached on the camera end. There are some huge fish suspending hooks on the graph at fifteen feet, wonder what type of shotting ya call this? I always say"if at first you don't succeed, cheat and then give up!" :-) -- Steve "go-bassn" wrote in message ... I've done that too Steve. I'm not sure what you mean by the bobber stopper/floating plastic. ds is deadly on bedders of both species, especially in shallow water. I use about a 36" leader for shallow dropshotting, everything else just the ordinary. Warren "Steve & Chris Clark" wrote in message ... Warren, could you elaborate on that 1' DS method? Did you, by chance, use it from a distance on bedded bass with a bobber stopper or was the plastic of the floating variety? -- Steve "go-bassn" wrote in message ... You can ds anywhere you cr, shallow & deep water included. I've ds'ed in 1 foot of water with great success. WW --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.762 / Virus Database: 510 - Release Date: 9/13/04 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.762 / Virus Database: 510 - Release Date: 9/13/04 |
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Try one of the Starm natural minnows on the nests Bob.
Warren -- http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com 2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... Ds for bedders. I like that. I have a coule repeat beds picked out for next season that this might just be the ticket for. -- ** FREE Fishing Lures ** Weekly drawing ** Public Fishing and Boating Forums ** www.YumaBassMan.com "go-bassn" wrote in message ... You can ds anywhere you cr, shallow & deep water included. I've ds'ed in 1 foot of water with great success. WW "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:1095444610.6+sikfEfLm5tfLwY/kq1RA@teranews... My best guess based on my total lack of skill at the technique is.... Clear to lightly stained with scattered grass growing off the bottom upto as tall as 2 feet. Depth being anywhere there are fish, but I can't see drop shotting in really really shallow water. For really really really deep water I think I would tend to look more at a Carolina rig. However, there are some exceptions. I might use a drop shot in places where I would flip or pitch like standing tulies in 3-6 feet of water if I felt a more finesse presentation would work. Probably go more to a "Bubba Shotting" type app in those cases using 20lb fluorocarbon and a hook with a weedguard. I might even use a weight with a rattle built in. My presentation for this would probably be gin clear water where I have seen good fish. I would back way off from the tulies to near my maximum pitching distance and be prepared to kick my trolling motor upto high and crash into the tulies if I hooked up a good fish. Just some thoughts. Your mileage will vary. Bob La Londe www.YumaBassMan.com "John C. French" wrote in message . .. What are ideal conditions for DS? Such as deep or shallow, clear or stained, weeds or gravel, etc. Any info anyone would like to give on conditions or techniques is appreciated. I have tried several times with out success. TIA John C. French |
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Try one of the Starm natural minnows on the nests Bob.
Warren -- http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com 2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... Ds for bedders. I like that. I have a coule repeat beds picked out for next season that this might just be the ticket for. -- ** FREE Fishing Lures ** Weekly drawing ** Public Fishing and Boating Forums ** www.YumaBassMan.com "go-bassn" wrote in message ... You can ds anywhere you cr, shallow & deep water included. I've ds'ed in 1 foot of water with great success. WW "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:1095444610.6+sikfEfLm5tfLwY/kq1RA@teranews... My best guess based on my total lack of skill at the technique is.... Clear to lightly stained with scattered grass growing off the bottom upto as tall as 2 feet. Depth being anywhere there are fish, but I can't see drop shotting in really really shallow water. For really really really deep water I think I would tend to look more at a Carolina rig. However, there are some exceptions. I might use a drop shot in places where I would flip or pitch like standing tulies in 3-6 feet of water if I felt a more finesse presentation would work. Probably go more to a "Bubba Shotting" type app in those cases using 20lb fluorocarbon and a hook with a weedguard. I might even use a weight with a rattle built in. My presentation for this would probably be gin clear water where I have seen good fish. I would back way off from the tulies to near my maximum pitching distance and be prepared to kick my trolling motor upto high and crash into the tulies if I hooked up a good fish. Just some thoughts. Your mileage will vary. Bob La Londe www.YumaBassMan.com "John C. French" wrote in message . .. What are ideal conditions for DS? Such as deep or shallow, clear or stained, weeds or gravel, etc. Any info anyone would like to give on conditions or techniques is appreciated. I have tried several times with out success. TIA John C. French |
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Yeah, one of my buddies swears by the weighted Storm minnows. He says they
sit nose down in the bed. I was also thinking a deep diving crank bait for those bass that are so fast to pick up a bait and spit it out. Soemthing suspending or with a couple suspend dots to keep it down. Crank it into the bed and then kill it. I have another buddy who uses one of Gilbert's big waterdogs with a Daiichi butt dragger hook for the same affect as the Storm minnows. He pushes the hook all the way through the water dog and leaves the point exposed. Actually TJ at Daiichi first told me about that technique. -- ** FREE Fishing Lures ** Weekly drawing ** Public Fishing and Boating Forums ** www.YumaBassMan.com "go-bassn" wrote in message ... Try one of the Starm natural minnows on the nests Bob. Warren -- http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com 2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... Ds for bedders. I like that. I have a coule repeat beds picked out for next season that this might just be the ticket for. -- ** FREE Fishing Lures ** Weekly drawing ** Public Fishing and Boating Forums ** www.YumaBassMan.com "go-bassn" wrote in message ... You can ds anywhere you cr, shallow & deep water included. I've ds'ed in 1 foot of water with great success. WW "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:1095444610.6+sikfEfLm5tfLwY/kq1RA@teranews... My best guess based on my total lack of skill at the technique is.... Clear to lightly stained with scattered grass growing off the bottom upto as tall as 2 feet. Depth being anywhere there are fish, but I can't see drop shotting in really really shallow water. For really really really deep water I think I would tend to look more at a Carolina rig. However, there are some exceptions. I might use a drop shot in places where I would flip or pitch like standing tulies in 3-6 feet of water if I felt a more finesse presentation would work. Probably go more to a "Bubba Shotting" type app in those cases using 20lb fluorocarbon and a hook with a weedguard. I might even use a weight with a rattle built in. My presentation for this would probably be gin clear water where I have seen good fish. I would back way off from the tulies to near my maximum pitching distance and be prepared to kick my trolling motor upto high and crash into the tulies if I hooked up a good fish. Just some thoughts. Your mileage will vary. Bob La Londe www.YumaBassMan.com "John C. French" wrote in message . .. What are ideal conditions for DS? Such as deep or shallow, clear or stained, weeds or gravel, etc. Any info anyone would like to give on conditions or techniques is appreciated. I have tried several times with out success. TIA John C. French |
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Yeah, one of my buddies swears by the weighted Storm minnows. He says they
sit nose down in the bed. I was also thinking a deep diving crank bait for those bass that are so fast to pick up a bait and spit it out. Soemthing suspending or with a couple suspend dots to keep it down. Crank it into the bed and then kill it. I have another buddy who uses one of Gilbert's big waterdogs with a Daiichi butt dragger hook for the same affect as the Storm minnows. He pushes the hook all the way through the water dog and leaves the point exposed. Actually TJ at Daiichi first told me about that technique. -- ** FREE Fishing Lures ** Weekly drawing ** Public Fishing and Boating Forums ** www.YumaBassMan.com "go-bassn" wrote in message ... Try one of the Starm natural minnows on the nests Bob. Warren -- http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com 2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... Ds for bedders. I like that. I have a coule repeat beds picked out for next season that this might just be the ticket for. -- ** FREE Fishing Lures ** Weekly drawing ** Public Fishing and Boating Forums ** www.YumaBassMan.com "go-bassn" wrote in message ... You can ds anywhere you cr, shallow & deep water included. I've ds'ed in 1 foot of water with great success. WW "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:1095444610.6+sikfEfLm5tfLwY/kq1RA@teranews... My best guess based on my total lack of skill at the technique is.... Clear to lightly stained with scattered grass growing off the bottom upto as tall as 2 feet. Depth being anywhere there are fish, but I can't see drop shotting in really really shallow water. For really really really deep water I think I would tend to look more at a Carolina rig. However, there are some exceptions. I might use a drop shot in places where I would flip or pitch like standing tulies in 3-6 feet of water if I felt a more finesse presentation would work. Probably go more to a "Bubba Shotting" type app in those cases using 20lb fluorocarbon and a hook with a weedguard. I might even use a weight with a rattle built in. My presentation for this would probably be gin clear water where I have seen good fish. I would back way off from the tulies to near my maximum pitching distance and be prepared to kick my trolling motor upto high and crash into the tulies if I hooked up a good fish. Just some thoughts. Your mileage will vary. Bob La Londe www.YumaBassMan.com "John C. French" wrote in message . .. What are ideal conditions for DS? Such as deep or shallow, clear or stained, weeds or gravel, etc. Any info anyone would like to give on conditions or techniques is appreciated. I have tried several times with out success. TIA John C. French |
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It proved there were no fish at 15 feet! I wonder what the fish ID sees?
When I changed the screen to greyline and fiddled with the setting it showed up a thermocline !? Must be getting near turn over, the surface temp was at 64 degrees. Sorry Warren I didn't get any digitals to post but we did make some fantastic observation on the silty bottoms and bass coming down the bank to check out the bait that was dusting the bottom. No bites, as I think the set up we had was just too crude. It did, however, enlighten me somewhat what happens with a C rig and how fish approach the bait. A strongish wind didn't allow us to stay in one spot. If we get some more time we will refine the rig and try once again. -- Steve "go-bassn" wrote in message ... Go get em Steve, I expect pictures. You need the long leader in the shallows to present the bait off the bottom. The angle of presentation is very thin in the shallows because you cast from a longer distance. Warren -- http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com 2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.767 / Virus Database: 514 - Release Date: 9/21/04 |
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It proved there were no fish at 15 feet! I wonder what the fish ID sees?
When I changed the screen to greyline and fiddled with the setting it showed up a thermocline !? Must be getting near turn over, the surface temp was at 64 degrees. Sorry Warren I didn't get any digitals to post but we did make some fantastic observation on the silty bottoms and bass coming down the bank to check out the bait that was dusting the bottom. No bites, as I think the set up we had was just too crude. It did, however, enlighten me somewhat what happens with a C rig and how fish approach the bait. A strongish wind didn't allow us to stay in one spot. If we get some more time we will refine the rig and try once again. -- Steve "go-bassn" wrote in message ... Go get em Steve, I expect pictures. You need the long leader in the shallows to present the bait off the bottom. The angle of presentation is very thin in the shallows because you cast from a longer distance. Warren -- http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com 2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.767 / Virus Database: 514 - Release Date: 9/21/04 |
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Try dragging tubes in that wind Steve, over the rocks (not the silt).
WW "Steve & Chris Clark" wrote in message ... It proved there were no fish at 15 feet! I wonder what the fish ID sees? When I changed the screen to greyline and fiddled with the setting it showed up a thermocline !? Must be getting near turn over, the surface temp was at 64 degrees. Sorry Warren I didn't get any digitals to post but we did make some fantastic observation on the silty bottoms and bass coming down the bank to check out the bait that was dusting the bottom. No bites, as I think the set up we had was just too crude. It did, however, enlighten me somewhat what happens with a C rig and how fish approach the bait. A strongish wind didn't allow us to stay in one spot. If we get some more time we will refine the rig and try once again. -- Steve "go-bassn" wrote in message ... Go get em Steve, I expect pictures. You need the long leader in the shallows to present the bait off the bottom. The angle of presentation is very thin in the shallows because you cast from a longer distance. Warren -- http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com 2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.767 / Virus Database: 514 - Release Date: 9/21/04 |
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