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On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 21:38:12 GMT, Chuck Wise wrote:
On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 13:57:09 -0700, philski wrote: I agree with your view Ken. I think if the Dems ever want to get ahead in the race for the White House, they need to dump the Gay Agenda. They have more than they can deal with with "right to life". I don't think there are enough gay votes (just my opinion) to sway a national vote one way or the other. The dems need to " Steer Clear of the Queers" (an old Idaho axiom) Dammit, I swore I wasn't gonna do this. But my dander's up again. Eleven states just voted to deny entry into the institution of marriage to US Citizens based solely on their sexual orientation, and YOU think GAYS have an "agenda"? What would that be, exactly? Are they guilty of trying to "secure the blessings of liberty to themselves..."? Damn that constitution. As a devout and practicing heterosexual, I can't begin to understand why it's any of my business whatsoever - or the business of the government - what two or more consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes and relationships. Heterosexuals have managed to make a complete mockery and debacle of the institution of marriage: I've never seen it demonstrated that homosexuals could possibly do worse. But if two men or women love each other and want to get married and share in the legal benefits, pitfalls, and sacrifice of "marital bliss", and can find a willing church or justice of the peace, I say "God Bless 'Em" and "God Help 'Em". Chuck I am relieved there is at least one other sentient entity on the face of the earth that has a clue. /daytripper (I was beginning to wonder...) |
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On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 21:38:12 GMT, Chuck Wise wrote:
On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 13:57:09 -0700, philski wrote: I agree with your view Ken. I think if the Dems ever want to get ahead in the race for the White House, they need to dump the Gay Agenda. They have more than they can deal with with "right to life". I don't think there are enough gay votes (just my opinion) to sway a national vote one way or the other. The dems need to " Steer Clear of the Queers" (an old Idaho axiom) Dammit, I swore I wasn't gonna do this. But my dander's up again. Eleven states just voted to deny entry into the institution of marriage to US Citizens based solely on their sexual orientation, and YOU think GAYS have an "agenda"? What would that be, exactly? Are they guilty of trying to "secure the blessings of liberty to themselves..."? Damn that constitution. As a devout and practicing heterosexual, I can't begin to understand why it's any of my business whatsoever - or the business of the government - what two or more consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes and relationships. Heterosexuals have managed to make a complete mockery and debacle of the institution of marriage: I've never seen it demonstrated that homosexuals could possibly do worse. But if two men or women love each other and want to get married and share in the legal benefits, pitfalls, and sacrifice of "marital bliss", and can find a willing church or justice of the peace, I say "God Bless 'Em" and "God Help 'Em". Chuck I am relieved there is at least one other sentient entity on the face of the earth that has a clue. /daytripper (I was beginning to wonder...) |
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On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 15:55:42 -0700, rw
wrote: philski wrote: Gays do have every right you and I enjoy. The problems associated with being gay are real. I would not deny any person their just rights.... I'm warning you, philski, we we permit gay marriage they will book up all the banquet halls. It will be chaos. But I bet they won't do the "Chicken Dance", reason enough to ban all straight marriages IMHO. g.c. An example of hetero perversion:http://www.angelfire.com/tx3/txbabycat/ |
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On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 15:55:42 -0700, rw
wrote: philski wrote: Gays do have every right you and I enjoy. The problems associated with being gay are real. I would not deny any person their just rights.... I'm warning you, philski, we we permit gay marriage they will book up all the banquet halls. It will be chaos. But I bet they won't do the "Chicken Dance", reason enough to ban all straight marriages IMHO. g.c. An example of hetero perversion:http://www.angelfire.com/tx3/txbabycat/ |
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"Chuck Wise" wrote in message ... Wolfie, I think you're starting to rub off on me. I've slept with Wolfie and I can tell ya for sure, you don't want him to be rubbin' on or off on ya, as it inevitably leads to fishin' together. Mark --if ya know what I mean-- |
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"Chuck Wise" wrote in message ... Wolfie, I think you're starting to rub off on me. I've slept with Wolfie and I can tell ya for sure, you don't want him to be rubbin' on or off on ya, as it inevitably leads to fishin' together. Mark --if ya know what I mean-- |
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"rw" wrote in message m... philski wrote: Gays do have every right you and I enjoy. The problems associated with being gay are real. I would not deny any person their just rights.... I'm warning you, philski, we we permit gay marriage they will book up all the banquet halls. It will be chaos. I say give'em the banquet halls, if they agree to stay off the trout streams. Mark --****, I'll agree to never go to another church, if all you godly types agree to stay of the trout streams!-- |
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"rw" wrote in message m... philski wrote: Gays do have every right you and I enjoy. The problems associated with being gay are real. I would not deny any person their just rights.... I'm warning you, philski, we we permit gay marriage they will book up all the banquet halls. It will be chaos. I say give'em the banquet halls, if they agree to stay off the trout streams. Mark --****, I'll agree to never go to another church, if all you godly types agree to stay of the trout streams!-- |
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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message ... philski writes: I have always been an independent. I knew my vote in Idaho would be nothing more than a protest vote because I do not like Bush. I particularly do not like Cheney. He lacks integrity. (not that Kerry has an abundance of it either- ) I believe that is the problem with the Dem Party this time around: They selected someone who they thought could beat Bush, not someone who they thought would be a good president. Lots of people voted for Kerry because of their dislike of Bush. That ain't no way to run a railroad. Pick a viable candidate, someone without all the luggage that Kerry carried (questionable VN service, questionable actions after VN which probably lengthened the war, a Senator without a good record in Congress, a billionaire wife who looks like Tootsie and can't keep her trashy mouth shut, and the blunder of all blunders, picking Edwards as his running mate). It was a train wreck waiting to happen. You do not vote because you hate someone; you vote because you think your candidate is the best qualified. Goddamn, you are a sick maggot. Wolfgang who quails for humanity as long as this kind of filth breaths and breeds. |
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"Chuck Wise" wrote in message ... snip Why, Chuck, I do declare, there appears to be hope for you yet! :) Wolfgang are you married? |
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rw wrote:
philski wrote: Gays do have every right you and I enjoy. The problems associated with being gay are real. I would not deny any person their just rights.... I'm warning you, philski, we we permit gay marriage they will book up all the banquet halls. It will be chaos. And they will do.....The Hokey Pokey! Put yer right foot in, Put yer right foot out..... Philski |
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"philski" wrote in message ... Well, I am not afraid as you put it. Well, I think you're a liar. I like my freedoms. No, duh. And infringing on my freedoms is not something I specifically cherish. In that case, one might suggest that you refrain. Considering my statement that I want the government removed from my life - you and I both know that that is an impossibility in today's society. Au contraire, mon frere, you can always eat a bullet. I made the statement not to be taken literally as you did. One might suggest that you make statements as you mean them to be taken. I worked for the gov for years. My hero.......sigh. I do know the difference. Between what and which? Its just that I want them at arm's length. Just how far did you reach for that paycheck? I do pay taxes for certain services Well now, THERE'S an interesting concept. I vote we ALL give that a try. C'mon gang, whattya say? and those, although are government entities, do not, in my opinion, have to have their every finger on my pulse so-to-speak. You surely get my drift. Actually, no, let's try it again......in English this time.....o.k.? I think the Patriot Act is too far reaching. There are already laws on the books for most of the criminal and/or terrorist activities in the U.S. I don't share the abundance of paranoia that I see in the GOP. See, this is the part I hate.......just when you think you've got the species pegged, along comes this little flash of human rationality.......and ya gotta start all over again. O.k., I'm with ya.......go on. As far as Social Security is concerned, I think I could have done a lot better had I been able to invest those same monies in simple savings accounts. And, thus, you refuse to accept such ill-gotten gains, right? And in the meantime, crafty devil that you are, you actually DID put an equal amount into a simple savings account and thus you are able to retire early and live a life of liesure, right? But I have to pay into it whether I like it or not. That's a fact, Jack! Each paycheck I receive has a noted deduction for the upkeep of that entitlement. Another fact......and one that is a very ill kept secret It used to have it's own fund and account. But it was raided by Congress and put into the General Fund. So, I will collect "my share" someday, but until then, I guess I'll have to put up with the tax that it is. This is beginning to sound suspiciously like life as we know it. How horrible, how tragic, that YOU of all people should have to live it while the rest of us loll about in a soporific stupor, living off of.....um......well, whatever it is. BTW - do you think GW will be giving us another tax refund - I could use another 600.00 dollar check just before Christmas! Hell yes! Mortgage your grandchildren.......I don't give a ****......I don't have any. So, bottom line is that like so many others, you've been sucking on the taxpayers tit for virtually all of your adult life (at least) and you don't like government intruding on your proud, honorable, and self-sufficient life...........that about it? Wolfgang who is giving serious consideration to turning radical muslim.......or any other rational alternative that presents itself. |
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"Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote in message ... "Chuck Wise" wrote in message ... Wolfie, I think you're starting to rub off on me. I've slept with Wolfie and I can tell ya for sure, you don't want him to be rubbin' on or off on ya, as it inevitably leads to fishin' together. Mark --if ya know what I mean-- So, this young couple, raised in the faith and devout as anyone could wish, are planning to get married but have got the hots so bad that it is REALLY hard to wait. They go to their parish priest and they say, "Father, is it really so bad for a couple who aren't married......yet......to sleep together?" "Oh, no," says the worldly and understanding (and thus far unindicted) padre, "But you young people........you don't sleep!" Wolfgang if ya know what i mean. |
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"Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote in message ... "Chuck Wise" wrote in message ... Wolfie, I think you're starting to rub off on me. I've slept with Wolfie and I can tell ya for sure, you don't want him to be rubbin' on or off on ya, as it inevitably leads to fishin' together. Mark --if ya know what I mean-- So, this young couple, raised in the faith and devout as anyone could wish, are planning to get married but have got the hots so bad that it is REALLY hard to wait. They go to their parish priest and they say, "Father, is it really so bad for a couple who aren't married......yet......to sleep together?" "Oh, no," says the worldly and understanding (and thus far unindicted) padre, "But you young people........you don't sleep!" Wolfgang if ya know what i mean. |
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who is giving serious consideration to turning radical muslim.......or any other rational alternative that presents itself. I await your transformation..... Philski |
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who is giving serious consideration to turning radical muslim.......or any other rational alternative that presents itself. I await your transformation..... Philski |
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"philski" wrote in message ... who is giving serious consideration to turning radical muslim.......or any other rational alternative that presents itself. I await your transformation..... Philski Hold your breath. Wolfgang |
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Wolfgang who is giving serious consideration to turning radical muslim.......or any other rational alternative that presents itself. Ya gotta think about that knife, ya know. May not be a problem, but YMMV. *That's* part of your ID card. -- Tom n4tab at earthlink dot net |
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Wolfgang wr
Wolfgang who is giving serious consideration to turning radical muslim.......or any other rational alternative that presents itself. Ya gotta think about that knife, ya know. May not be a problem, but YMMV. *That's* part of your ID card. -- Tom n4tab at earthlink dot net |
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Dave LaCourse observes:
The Trumans/JFKs/Muskys all had God in their equations. And, you forgot to note, they took great care not to shove their God down anyone else's throats, or use their vision of God to shape Government policies. Unless the current trend shifts(and history dictates the pendulum swings back), we are headed toward a Fundamentalist Christian version of Iran. Pardon me if I hold off uniting on that abomination.... Tom |
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"a-happy-up-yours" wrote in message link.net... Wolfgang wr Wolfgang who is giving serious consideration to turning radical muslim.......or any other rational alternative that presents itself. Ya gotta think about that knife, ya know. May not be a problem, but YMMV. *That's* part of your ID card. Well, I'm pretty sure that you already do, but when they come to get me, the rest will all know where they live, ainna? :) Wolfgang who knows that what can't happen here already has. |
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"a-happy-up-yours" wrote in message link.net... Wolfgang wr Wolfgang who is giving serious consideration to turning radical muslim.......or any other rational alternative that presents itself. Ya gotta think about that knife, ya know. May not be a problem, but YMMV. *That's* part of your ID card. Well, I'm pretty sure that you already do, but when they come to get me, the rest will all know where they live, ainna? :) Wolfgang who knows that what can't happen here already has. |
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Tom Littleton writes:
And, you forgot to note, they took great care not to shove their God down anyone else's throats, or use their vision of God to shape Government policies. Unless the current trend shifts(and history dictates the pendulum swings back), we are headed toward a Fundamentalist Christian version of Iran. Pardon me if I hold off uniting on that abomination.... I doubt that would happen, because neither you nor I would stand for it. But, you could do your part by stopping the hate that is so prevalent among your liberal friends. What happens if yet *another* Republican is elected to the WH in 2008? 2012? |
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Tom Littleton writes:
And, you forgot to note, they took great care not to shove their God down anyone else's throats, or use their vision of God to shape Government policies. Unless the current trend shifts(and history dictates the pendulum swings back), we are headed toward a Fundamentalist Christian version of Iran. Pardon me if I hold off uniting on that abomination.... I doubt that would happen, because neither you nor I would stand for it. But, you could do your part by stopping the hate that is so prevalent among your liberal friends. What happens if yet *another* Republican is elected to the WH in 2008? 2012? |
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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message ... What happens if yet *another* Republican is elected to the WH in 2008? 2012? More dead grandchildren. Wolfgang |
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On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:02:10 -0500, "Tim J."
wrote: (snipped) Ballots could have had two boxes in this election, FOR BUSH and AGAINST BUSH, because Kerry brought nothing to the table to vote FOR. I don't know if he did or not. I couldn't figure out what he was really for. And the one ad I heard had him saying something so dumb Quayle would have been able to say it. Since I can't stand Bush, didn't see anything great about Kerry and was in the booth anyway, I voted Libertarian. No, it wasn't a wasted vote. My state went, as I had figured, for Kerry. And I like to remind the major parties that there are those of us out there who think the two party system is okay sometimes and sucks other times. Cyli r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels. Often taunted by trout. http://www.visi.com/~cyli email: lid (strip the .invalid to email) |
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On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:02:10 -0500, "Tim J."
wrote: (snipped) Ballots could have had two boxes in this election, FOR BUSH and AGAINST BUSH, because Kerry brought nothing to the table to vote FOR. I don't know if he did or not. I couldn't figure out what he was really for. And the one ad I heard had him saying something so dumb Quayle would have been able to say it. Since I can't stand Bush, didn't see anything great about Kerry and was in the booth anyway, I voted Libertarian. No, it wasn't a wasted vote. My state went, as I had figured, for Kerry. And I like to remind the major parties that there are those of us out there who think the two party system is okay sometimes and sucks other times. Cyli r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels. Often taunted by trout. http://www.visi.com/~cyli email: lid (strip the .invalid to email) |
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"philski" wrote in message ... rw wrote: philski wrote: Gays do have every right you and I enjoy. The problems associated with being gay are real. I would not deny any person their just rights.... I'm warning you, philski, we we permit gay marriage they will book up all the banquet halls. It will be chaos. And they will do.....The Hokey Pokey! Put yer right foot in, Put yer right foot out..... its 'Wing', not foot. --riverman |
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"philski" wrote in message ... rw wrote: philski wrote: Gays do have every right you and I enjoy. The problems associated with being gay are real. I would not deny any person their just rights.... I'm warning you, philski, we we permit gay marriage they will book up all the banquet halls. It will be chaos. And they will do.....The Hokey Pokey! Put yer right foot in, Put yer right foot out..... its 'Wing', not foot. --riverman |
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Dave asks:
What happens if yet *another* Republican is elected to the WH in 2008? 2012? the party doesn't matter, it's the ideology. For instance, Rudy G is hardly a devout fundamentalist type....based on his life performance he could never run on moral values the same way. Interesting that you view my expression of opinion as hate, as it more one of abject fear. Tom |
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Dave asks:
What happens if yet *another* Republican is elected to the WH in 2008? 2012? the party doesn't matter, it's the ideology. For instance, Rudy G is hardly a devout fundamentalist type....based on his life performance he could never run on moral values the same way. Interesting that you view my expression of opinion as hate, as it more one of abject fear. Tom |
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cruxgems wrote: What is it with you Democrats. You have a death wish or something. Give yourselves a break and run someone who can match up their shoes with their feet. As far as I am concerned Kerry lost this election between the Democratic convention and the first debate. Hate her or Love her, Ms. Clinton knows the hot buttons and will not campaign that way. |
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"Wayne Knight" wrote in message oups.com... cruxgems wrote: What is it with you Democrats. You have a death wish or something. Give yourselves a break and run someone who can match up their shoes with their feet. As far as I am concerned Kerry lost this election between the Democratic convention and the first debate. Hate her or Love her, Ms. Clinton knows the hot buttons and will not campaign that way. An article said how the Dems are the top team in Sandlot Baseball, while the Repubs are experts at demolition. As long as the Republican Agenda is to crush and destroy any opposition and to do things 'their way', the values and hopes of half of america stand to get railroaded. Losing an election shouldn't be tantamount to a 'Death Wish'. --riverman |
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riverman wrote: An article said how the Dems are the top team in Sandlot Baseball, while the Repubs are experts at demolition. As long as the Republican Agenda is to crush and destroy any opposition and to do things 'their way', the values and hopes of half of america stand to get railroaded. Losing an election shouldn't be tantamount to a 'Death Wish'. Oh sheesh Mryon, get the **** over it, our side lost. Life isn't perfect. I too worry about what Georgie has up his sleeve but somewhere, somehow, I have to believe we will survive the next four years with something left intact to build on. After all, somehow we've managed to survive every president since Truman. Yea Republicans don't play nice but they reflect where the country is as a whole on certain hot button issues. Strangest thing happened on my commute this morning......the sun came up (hidden behind the clouds of course). |
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riverman wrote: An article said how the Dems are the top team in Sandlot Baseball, while the Repubs are experts at demolition. As long as the Republican Agenda is to crush and destroy any opposition and to do things 'their way', the values and hopes of half of america stand to get railroaded. Losing an election shouldn't be tantamount to a 'Death Wish'. Oh sheesh Mryon, get the **** over it, our side lost. Life isn't perfect. I too worry about what Georgie has up his sleeve but somewhere, somehow, I have to believe we will survive the next four years with something left intact to build on. After all, somehow we've managed to survive every president since Truman. Yea Republicans don't play nice but they reflect where the country is as a whole on certain hot button issues. Strangest thing happened on my commute this morning......the sun came up (hidden behind the clouds of course). |
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Wayne Knight wrote:
Strangest thing happened on my commute this morning......the sun came up ... Damn. That Karl Rove IS good.... :) JR |
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Wayne Knight wrote:
Strangest thing happened on my commute this morning......the sun came up ... Damn. That Karl Rove IS good.... :) JR |
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