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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 02:25:03 GMT, "Wayne Harrison"
wrote: wrote in message roups.com... I've only read three or four of your posts, Ken, but they've stirred up some sixty-year old memories that have always been a little unsettling for me. The first involved a bright kid in our squadron who had no capacity for equilibrium in his life and it was a torment for him. He solved his problem one night by going outside our quarters into a little guard shack and, .. Putting a .38 in his mouth took the top of his head off. not even close. forty's been functioning for at least five years with the top of his head off. courtesy of a combination of wild turkey, james mcdonald roberts, and dawn in north carolina. wayno that and a truck ride . . . . Peter turn mailhot into hotmail to reply Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharl...ers/index.html |
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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 02:25:03 GMT, "Wayne Harrison"
wrote: wrote in message roups.com... I've only read three or four of your posts, Ken, but they've stirred up some sixty-year old memories that have always been a little unsettling for me. The first involved a bright kid in our squadron who had no capacity for equilibrium in his life and it was a torment for him. He solved his problem one night by going outside our quarters into a little guard shack and, .. Putting a .38 in his mouth took the top of his head off. not even close. forty's been functioning for at least five years with the top of his head off. courtesy of a combination of wild turkey, james mcdonald roberts, and dawn in north carolina. wayno that and a truck ride . . . . Peter turn mailhot into hotmail to reply Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharl...ers/index.html |
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I've only read three or four of your posts, Ken, Yeah? Then you haven't even BEGUN the torture regimen. Call us when you been reading this tripe for several years. but they've stirred up some sixty-year old memories that have always been a little unsettling for me. The first involved a bright kid in our squadron Why would you equate this to Ken? ;-) snip Seeing both sides of an issue is the sign of a mature mind. Posting on roff is not. However, reading roff without posting has been known to cause men to go blind. And then there's that yucky hair on the palms. . . -- TL, Tim --------------------------- http://css.sbcma.com/timj/ |
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He was a Nazorean..'not from nazareth' An ancient practioner of the religion of Egypt, Isis and Osiris.... ...and Mary, snakes and all was not the whore, however the death, annointing, rebirth and sacred sex thing piques my interest.... .... some say he came from New Orleans, where he got in a fight oer a cagin' queen, and a crashing blow from that big right hand, sent a Mississippi gambler to the promised land, big John . . . the Baptist "Cyli" wrote in message ... On 16 Dec 2004 22:37:38 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse) wrote: Bill Claspy opines: And, don't forget the reason for the season. Winter solstice! The Bible doesn't say when Christ was born, and while it is true that the winter solstice was chosen, it is NOT the reason MOST people celebrate the season. We celebrate His birthday, whether you like it or not. He is the reason for the season. Most Biblical scholars say it couldn't have been anywhere near the winter (N of the equator) solstice. They figure probably spring some time. If the Passover weren't so well dated and the New Testament didn't indicate that the death and resurrection were together with it, I'd think that Christmas and Easter should be the other way around. What more appropriate (especially in English or related language) than the return of the Sun and the Son? What more appropriate for spring than the birth? Most CHRISTIANS celebrate Christ's birthday. Almost all other religions, old and new, that are much written about and in the northern temperate zones have or had some sort of special observance at that time of year. The Solstices were unequalled in all non-urban (every race / creed at one time) groups in their power to affect people. Even urbanites are capable of noticing that it nights get longer and the fresh fruits and veggies either aren't around or aren't local. Traditions of some kind that long predated Christianity in our rather Euro-Centric world were practiced. Many of them similar to the ones which have grown to cluster now around Christmas. Now spending large amounts of money has been added. It's okay. BTW, I advise skipping the book, "Skipping Christmas". It was assigned for our book club this month (a non-meeting month) and I faithfully read almost half of it. John Grisham is generally a good writer, but that was all I could handle. So I skimmed the last half. It made me think of an attempt at something literary based on the Griswold Family Christmas movie. It sucks. I'd sooner re-read all the gun threads I've ever seen on rec.backcounty and here than ever read it again. The characters were less loveable than ROFF on a bad day. The premise was mildly interesting, but only mildly. The plot got pretty badly stretched in some spots so "humor" could be forced in. The very few episodes with real sentiment were overshadowed by the, still few, episodes of deliberate schmaltz. If you want to read something that will inspire you to contribute to a food bank or homeless housing, try his book, "The Street Lawyer", which will tell you why you might want to give a little more. Except for the dramatic opening, it seems to be a realistic clue on what happens to the fringes who can't make it into our idea of normal society. Cyli r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels. Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless. http://www.visi.com/~cyli email: lid (strip the .invalid to email) |
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Well, the birth wasn't virgin...
He was a Nazorean..'not from nazareth' An ancient practioner of the religion of Egypt, Isis and Osiris.... ...and Mary, snakes and all was not the whore, however the death, annointing, rebirth and sacred sex thing piques my interest.... .... some say he came from New Orleans, where he got in a fight oer a cagin' queen, and a crashing blow from that big right hand, sent a Mississippi gambler to the promised land, big John . . . the Baptist "Cyli" wrote in message ... On 16 Dec 2004 22:37:38 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse) wrote: Bill Claspy opines: And, don't forget the reason for the season. Winter solstice! The Bible doesn't say when Christ was born, and while it is true that the winter solstice was chosen, it is NOT the reason MOST people celebrate the season. We celebrate His birthday, whether you like it or not. He is the reason for the season. Most Biblical scholars say it couldn't have been anywhere near the winter (N of the equator) solstice. They figure probably spring some time. If the Passover weren't so well dated and the New Testament didn't indicate that the death and resurrection were together with it, I'd think that Christmas and Easter should be the other way around. What more appropriate (especially in English or related language) than the return of the Sun and the Son? What more appropriate for spring than the birth? Most CHRISTIANS celebrate Christ's birthday. Almost all other religions, old and new, that are much written about and in the northern temperate zones have or had some sort of special observance at that time of year. The Solstices were unequalled in all non-urban (every race / creed at one time) groups in their power to affect people. Even urbanites are capable of noticing that it nights get longer and the fresh fruits and veggies either aren't around or aren't local. Traditions of some kind that long predated Christianity in our rather Euro-Centric world were practiced. Many of them similar to the ones which have grown to cluster now around Christmas. Now spending large amounts of money has been added. It's okay. BTW, I advise skipping the book, "Skipping Christmas". It was assigned for our book club this month (a non-meeting month) and I faithfully read almost half of it. John Grisham is generally a good writer, but that was all I could handle. So I skimmed the last half. It made me think of an attempt at something literary based on the Griswold Family Christmas movie. It sucks. I'd sooner re-read all the gun threads I've ever seen on rec.backcounty and here than ever read it again. The characters were less loveable than ROFF on a bad day. The premise was mildly interesting, but only mildly. The plot got pretty badly stretched in some spots so "humor" could be forced in. The very few episodes with real sentiment were overshadowed by the, still few, episodes of deliberate schmaltz. If you want to read something that will inspire you to contribute to a food bank or homeless housing, try his book, "The Street Lawyer", which will tell you why you might want to give a little more. Except for the dramatic opening, it seems to be a realistic clue on what happens to the fringes who can't make it into our idea of normal society. Cyli r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels. Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless. http://www.visi.com/~cyli email: lid (strip the .invalid to email) |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message m... ...there are worse things than being dead, you know. True, true. The GOOD news is that only ONE of us has to be you! Wolfgang not a bad way to kick off the holiday season......nope, not bad at all. :) |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message m... ...there are worse things than being dead, you know. True, true. The GOOD news is that only ONE of us has to be you! Wolfgang not a bad way to kick off the holiday season......nope, not bad at all. :) |
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wrote in message oups.com... ...Seeing both sides of an issue is the sign of a mature mind. Good news indeed! Having been plagued lo these many years by an absolute inability to see both sides of the mass murder of children issue, I am delighted to learn that it is simply a result of arrested intellectual and moral development. I'd begun to think it was a personal problem. Wolfgang whose holiday season just keeps getting better and better. :) |
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wrote in message oups.com... ...Seeing both sides of an issue is the sign of a mature mind. Good news indeed! Having been plagued lo these many years by an absolute inability to see both sides of the mass murder of children issue, I am delighted to learn that it is simply a result of arrested intellectual and moral development. I'd begun to think it was a personal problem. Wolfgang whose holiday season just keeps getting better and better. :) |
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Cyli wrote: If you want to read something that will inspire you to ... ....or, for something along similarly inspirational allegorical lines, you could try mccarthy's "blood meridian"... now there's some "seasoned" literature. jeff |
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"William Claspy" wrote in message ... On 12/16/04 5:37 PM, in article , "Dave LaCourse" wrote: Bill Claspy opines: And, don't forget the reason for the season. Winter solstice! The Bible doesn't say when Christ was born, and while it is true that the winter solstice was chosen, it is NOT the reason MOST people celebrate the season. We celebrate His birthday, whether you like it or not. He is the reason for the season. Rats. Thought I had it right. I've never tested well though. At least now I know why We do what We do. Whether I like it or not! Thanks for that. Well, Some of Us are still not at all certain whether We celebrate or not........let alone what for or when. The Church, as I suspect you already know, still maintains that Easter is of greater significance than Christmas regardless of whose birthday was when.....which, not so incidentally, biblical scholars do in fact enjoy some degree of consensus on, for reasons we won't tax Davie's limited comprehension with. That said, I'm with You; I like the solstice for pretty much the same reasons as virtually Everybody else......regardless of what They may THINK Their reasons are. :) May your days wax progressively longer this holiday season......and then some. Wolfgang and be nice to me.......i still got a list......well, half of one anyway.....and i ain't afraid to use it. :( |
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"William Claspy" wrote in message ... On 12/16/04 5:37 PM, in article , "Dave LaCourse" wrote: Bill Claspy opines: And, don't forget the reason for the season. Winter solstice! The Bible doesn't say when Christ was born, and while it is true that the winter solstice was chosen, it is NOT the reason MOST people celebrate the season. We celebrate His birthday, whether you like it or not. He is the reason for the season. Rats. Thought I had it right. I've never tested well though. At least now I know why We do what We do. Whether I like it or not! Thanks for that. Well, Some of Us are still not at all certain whether We celebrate or not........let alone what for or when. The Church, as I suspect you already know, still maintains that Easter is of greater significance than Christmas regardless of whose birthday was when.....which, not so incidentally, biblical scholars do in fact enjoy some degree of consensus on, for reasons we won't tax Davie's limited comprehension with. That said, I'm with You; I like the solstice for pretty much the same reasons as virtually Everybody else......regardless of what They may THINK Their reasons are. :) May your days wax progressively longer this holiday season......and then some. Wolfgang and be nice to me.......i still got a list......well, half of one anyway.....and i ain't afraid to use it. :( |
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