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MichaelM wrote:
Maybe the heavier line itself has something to do with it too?

IMO, It shouldn't


The extra power of the heavier rod is the culprit? I do recall that there
was a bit of loose line on the water that would have added to the momentum
of the line in the strike though. This tells me that I ought to be more
careful with line-on-the-water control that with my old 3 weight outfit. In
order to be able to continue to use the 7x or 8x tippets, I need to be sure
that there is less loose line out on the water than that that I used to get
away with using the 3 weight. I suppose that using a 3 weight can make me a
lazier angler than using the 4 weight... :-)

MichaelM wrote:
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MichaelM wrote:

Maybe the heavier line itself has something to do with it too?

IMO, It shouldn't



The extra power of the heavier rod is the culprit?

I think what Wayne meant is that a stiff, fast action rod will be worse
for hookups on light tippet than a softer rod.

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MichaelM wrote:

Hi RW, last year, my best fish was a 5lb 3 oz trout landed on a 8 footer 3
weight using 7x tippet.

That's quite an impressive catch on such light tackle. Where do you
fish? In general, I mean. No GPS coordinates are requested. :-)

I had little difficulty with landing this fish,
except when the brute went near any weeds, then I pulled my socks up
somewhat!. The biggest difficulty in landing the fish was the current flow,
and getting the fish near to the net. It took 40 minutes to net this fish
because at times, the fish just went where it wanted to go. I killed the
fish as I do most of the ones I catch, and so do not cause unnecessary
sufferance to the fish (if that makes sense...).

Someone will probably get on your case anyway for torturing fish. Ignore it.

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MichaelM wrote:

Hi RW, last year, my best fish was a 5lb 3 oz trout landed on a 8 footer
3
weight using 7x tippet.

That's quite an impressive catch on such light tackle. Where do you
fish? In general, I mean. No GPS coordinates are requested. :-)

I fish on various spate streams in Yorkshire; they are really lovely rivers
with wild trout and I adore fishing them. Next week I am off to the Swale
near Richmond for a 2-3 day stint.

Lately, I spend most of my time on a chalkstream though, and this is where I
got the 5 pounder.

I had little difficulty with landing this fish,
except when the brute went near any weeds, then I pulled my socks up
somewhat!. The biggest difficulty in landing the fish was the current
flow,
and getting the fish near to the net. It took 40 minutes to net this
fish
because at times, the fish just went where it wanted to go. I killed the
fish as I do most of the ones I catch, and so do not cause unnecessary
sufferance to the fish (if that makes sense...).

Someone will probably get on your case anyway for torturing fish. Ignore
it.



I will ignore it, as much as the big trouts here ignore less than 7x tippet!

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MichaelM wrote:
"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
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MichaelM wrote:

Maybe the heavier line itself has something to do with it too?

IMO, It shouldn't



The extra power of the heavier rod is the culprit?

I think what Wayne meant is that a stiff, fast action rod will be worse
for hookups on light tippet than a softer rod.


One interpretation of that is maybe that the weight ratings of the different
rods are correct. If I put the 3 weight line on the 4 weight rod, then it
would seem to be a stiff/fast rod?

MichaelM wrote:

I fish on various spate streams in Yorkshire; they are really lovely rivers
with wild trout and I adore fishing them. Next week I am off to the Swale
near Richmond for a 2-3 day stint.

Lately, I spend most of my time on a chalkstream though, and this is where I
got the 5 pounder.

Hang around, Mike. Maybe you'll eventually organize an English
chalkstream clave, and some ROFF tippet snobs will get a chance to use
up all that 7x that's been moldering in their vest pockets. :-)

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MichaelM wrote:

I fish on various spate streams in Yorkshire; they are really lovely
rivers
with wild trout and I adore fishing them. Next week I am off to the
Swale
near Richmond for a 2-3 day stint.

Lately, I spend most of my time on a chalkstream though, and this is
where I
got the 5 pounder.

Hang around, Mike. Maybe you'll eventually organize an English
chalkstream clave, and some ROFF tippet snobs will get a chance to use
up all that 7x that's been moldering in their vest pockets. :-)


In theory, an interesting exercise that I would support; however, being a
new member there, I ought to do some years' groundwork before even
contemplating such a thing! I am allowed 8 guest days a year, limited to
one a day. Conclaving would be much better on the Yorkshire spate waters
where it is possible also to make camp beside the water. I'm off near
Richmond next week with my tent for a 2 night/3day fishing exploration of
the river Swale there ~ really looking forward to it! Don't need 7x tippet
on the Swale ~ 6x will be fine.

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One interpretation of that is maybe that the weight ratings of the
different
rods are correct. If I put the 3 weight line on the 4 weight rod, then it
would seem to be a stiff/fast rod?

People in the industry argue all day long if the weight ratings on certain
rods are correct. That is not the issue.

No, Rods have actions are generically classified as fast/medium/slow and
somewhere in between. Softer action rods tend to flex more whereas fast
action rods tend to have less flex. IMO and experience a medium or soft
action rod will do a better job *protecting* thinner tippets because the
entire rod absorbs the shock whereas a faster action rod has more of it's
action in the tip and there is more initial stress on the tippet. But that's
just my belief, I;m a chemist turned accountant, not a physicist.

I've landed large fish on 8x using a 6wt (Sage SP) and had 6x pop on a 4x
(T&T Horizon)