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Wolfgang July 20th, 2006 09:04 PM

So I guess all those bastids.....
 

"Jeff" wrote in message
k.net...


Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Stan Gula wrote:

jeff wrote:

whoever is telling the truth takes all. we'll let wayno, tim j., stan
gula, willi (and any other impartial, objective person you find
acceptable) determine who's telling the truth based on all of the
facts, photos, and witnesses. what say kenny? or are you all hat and
no cattle?


I hereby decree that the excellent people who have given reports that
they
have visited Fawn Lake and even fished it and photographed big brookies
caught in it are all being truthful.



Yeah, if all I had to go on were the reports posted here
I'd probably lean the same way.

But then Warren is the guy who said, "Hand me my beer",
and then took a digital photo of me "drinking" a friggin'
Moose Drool or some other western swill. He is *not* to
be trusted.


oh brother...just when i thought you couldn't get any more pathetic. Now,
um, what are the flaws/lack of integrity you think exist with regard to
Chas, Choc, and John Hightower? ...oh, and while you're at it, tell us
why Craig Matthews is a liar and untrustworthy too.


In summary:

You and your corroborative witnesses are constrained by certain facts, such
as having been there, having fished successfully, being in possession of
photographic evidence and eyewitness testimony, having found and produced
documents pertaining to Fawn Lake published by the National Park Service,
having found and produced maps, air photos, satellite photos, GPS
coordinates and sundry other documentary evidence.

Kennie has never been there. He has no physical evidence to present. He
has no testimony from anyone else to back his assertion. In other words, he
has NO facts at his disposal. Far from being a handicap, this means that,
unlike you, he is not constrained by facts.

You ain't got a chance. :)

Wolfgang



Tim J. July 20th, 2006 09:29 PM

So I guess all those bastids.....
 
Jeff typed:
hey...i actually like fawn lake and the hike. i can catch brookies in
the gardner and fawn creek without any crowds and by hiking less
distance than to middle falls on snowbird (of course forty probably
thinks i doctored the middle falls pictures too).


I'd venture a guess he doesn't think anything of the kind.

the scenery is
great. we came upon a huge number of shed elk antlers this
year...i'll post pictures this evening.

i'll be happy to show fawn lake to any number of people that want to
tag along next year, including anyone whose word yellowstone kenny
will accept as truthful. to be sure there is one among y'all that is
near and dear enough to fortenberry to be believed by him. hell,
after wayne knight pays me my 10 grand wayno, i'll arrange a special
photo session for you (the horse ride will be sporting).


One of these years I'll take you up on that offer, but I refuse to witness.
What fun would *that* be?
--
TL,
Tim
-------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



John Hightower July 20th, 2006 09:47 PM

So I guess all those bastids.....
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

In summary:

You and your corroborative witnesses are constrained by certain facts,
such as having been there, having fished successfully, being in possession
of photographic evidence and eyewitness testimony, having found and
produced documents pertaining to Fawn Lake published by the National Park
Service, having found and produced maps, air photos, satellite photos, GPS
coordinates and sundry other documentary evidence.

Kennie has never been there. He has no physical evidence to present. He
has no testimony from anyone else to back his assertion. In other words,
he has NO facts at his disposal. Far from being a handicap, this means
that, unlike you, he is not constrained by facts.

You ain't got a chance. :)

Wolfgang

holy bbbbrook trout and mythical lakes batman, this may be one the first
posts wolfies ever made that I can agree with :-)

jh



John Hightower July 20th, 2006 10:16 PM

So I guess all those bastids.....
 

"Ken Fortenberry"

Oh hell, fishing regs don't prove a damn thing. If there was
a puddle on the sidewalk that might possibly contain a tadpole
during a monsoon the Park Service would have a special fishing
reg.
--
Ken Fortenberry


funny you should mention tadpoles Ken, there were a bunch of the little
critters in the lake we were at and in the outflow stream. whole bunch of
small toads too.

hmm

jh



Wolfgang July 20th, 2006 11:38 PM

So I guess all those bastids.....
 

John Hightower wrote:
"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

In summary:

You and your corroborative witnesses are constrained by certain facts,
such as having been there, having fished successfully, being in possession
of photographic evidence and eyewitness testimony, having found and
produced documents pertaining to Fawn Lake published by the National Park
Service, having found and produced maps, air photos, satellite photos, GPS
coordinates and sundry other documentary evidence.

Kennie has never been there. He has no physical evidence to present. He
has no testimony from anyone else to back his assertion. In other words,
he has NO facts at his disposal. Far from being a handicap, this means
that, unlike you, he is not constrained by facts.

You ain't got a chance. :)

Wolfgang

holy bbbbrook trout and mythical lakes batman, this may be one the first
posts wolfies ever made that I can agree with :-)

jh


The path to Hell can never be completed without that first step.

Wolfgang
which makes it pretty much like any other, really......if you think
about it.


Wolfgang July 20th, 2006 11:42 PM

So I guess all those bastids.....
 

JR wrote:
Tim J. wrote:
JR typed:


What? No sodium pentathol?


That's the requirement in 2008. You're ahead of your time, JR.


Too soon, then, to assume we've definitively ruled out torture?

:)


You already read ROFF.....of your own volition.....what can anyone do
to you?

Wolfgang
vee haf ze girl, old man......you vill take ze money.....um.....hm......


jeff July 21st, 2006 12:39 AM

So I guess all those bastids.....
 
Ken Fortenberry wrote:

John Hightower wrote:

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:

Next year he should go armed with a real film camera and a GPS
unit. If the GPS unit isn't doctored and the negative of the
photo is unretouched that should prove that the photo of both
the readout on the GPS unit and the so-called Fawn Lake are
where he says it is. Naturally, I'd want to inspect both the
GPS unit and the negative.



well, there were 3 GPS units there. ...



You don't understand. Anybody can walk up to a bed of unfishable
weeds, record the coordinates and then post digital photos of
someplace else.

Better luck next year.


so...finally...you're actually calling chas, john hightower, charlie
choc, me, warren, and joe liars, cheats, conspirators...and, in
addition, abandoning your former lame claim of "doctored" photos in
favor of a new claim that the photos are of a different lake. truly,
truly, pathetic.

Willi July 21st, 2006 04:01 PM

So I guess all those bastids.....
 
jeff wrote:

so...finally...you're actually calling chas, john hightower, charlie
choc, me, warren, and joe liars, cheats, conspirators...and, in
addition, abandoning your former lame claim of "doctored" photos in
favor of a new claim that the photos are of a different lake. truly,
truly, pathetic.


I'm sorry I left before that walk in. That Brookie Warren caught was
bigger than any I've ever caught. I would I loved a chance at such a big
Brookie. Anyone else catch any? Did you see other fish?

Willi


John Hightower July 21st, 2006 04:24 PM

So I guess all those bastids.....
 

"Willi" wrote in message
...
jeff wrote:

so...finally...you're actually calling chas, john hightower, charlie
choc, me, warren, and joe liars, cheats, conspirators...and, in addition,
abandoning your former lame claim of "doctored" photos in favor of a new
claim that the photos are of a different lake. truly, truly, pathetic.


I'm sorry I left before that walk in. That Brookie Warren caught was
bigger than any I've ever caught. I would I loved a chance at such a big
Brookie. Anyone else catch any? Did you see other fish?

Willi


Kind of leaving the TR up to Warren- its his story. He's hoping to put a TR
together this weekend after Sabrina heads back to CA.

jh



jeff July 21st, 2006 06:29 PM

So I guess all those bastids.....
 
that brookie was the smaller of the two he was fishing for...the other
one was easily over 24"...it looked like a log next to this one. it's
warren's story, and i expect he'll tell it soon, but i didn't carry my
rod or fishing gear along on this adventure...it was a nice hike, great
scenery, and i fished a bit on the gardner with warren's rod on the way
in. I wanted to be able to document the catch. they didn't fish for very
long and it was the worst time of day. i'd like to be there in the
evening and night. Still, there were lots of rising fish...but the
lake water was a bit warm at its surface areas...65 i think. several
fish tormented Chas at a different section of the lake, but all of the
action was over on our side where some cooler waters flowed into the
lake. i saw two big brook trout leap all the way out of the water
chasing something, and it wasn't the damsel flies. i'm still way down
on the lake fishing learning curve, but it was among the finest days
i've spent on a fishing trip for a variety of reasons. the elk sheds
were a bonus...

jeff

Willi wrote:

jeff wrote:

so...finally...you're actually calling chas, john hightower, charlie
choc, me, warren, and joe liars, cheats, conspirators...and, in
addition, abandoning your former lame claim of "doctored" photos in
favor of a new claim that the photos are of a different lake. truly,
truly, pathetic.



I'm sorry I left before that walk in. That Brookie Warren caught was
bigger than any I've ever caught. I would I loved a chance at such a big
Brookie. Anyone else catch any? Did you see other fish?

Willi



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