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why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater ?
jeffc wrote: "duty-honor-country" wrote in message oups.com... are you saying spinning reels are more prone to backlashes than baitcasters now ? What the HELL are you talking about? Go look up "non sequitur" and see what you think semantics You have no idea what you're talking about, do you? hey, I'm not the one spelling words wrong, you are. |
why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater ?
jeffc wrote: "duty-honor-country" wrote in message s.com... yes, your argument doesn't hold any water- because you attack people you don't even know, over fishing tackle preferences. We're talking fishing tackle here, not people. Bwahahahahahaha. It's not your "preference". You've argued with every person here, and every person here has told you the exact same thing. You're dogmatic and argumentative and you wonder why someone gives you a hard time back. You fairly new to Usenet? what the hell you looking for, a gay date ? or are you writing a friggin' book ? besides, you can't even spell |
why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater ?TROLL??
Joe Z wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... Bob La Londe wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote: ... But I tried to cast with my Dad's old Ambasseuder 5000 and never could get the hang of the damn thing, so I basically agree with Mr. d-h-c. 1/2 :-) Never had a 5000, but we had a bunch of 5000D models for catfishing and they were great. They could crank a catfish out of hole like a Warn winch pulling a Volkswagon out of a ditch. ... Funny, I compare it to a winch too but in a disparaging way. I just don't see the challenge in catching a 10 pound fish on 20 lb. test. Hell, you watch some of the stuff on the TV and those guys may as well just push a button. Fish on, zip, fish in the boat. Phooey on that. A challenge is catching a 15 pound fish on 4X 6.4 lb. test. And I'm not talkin' about using 4X just to make a game of it, I'm talking about fishing for Michigan steelhead using a size 14 black stonefly nymph where that's the biggest fly that will work and 4X is the thickest piece of nylon that will fit through the eye of the hook. Now *that's* a challenge, and a workout for the drag on your fly reel, and a test of your skill in applying just the right amount of pressure with the fly rod. -- Ken Fortenberry - not trolling ... well, not too much ;-) I think you hit the nail on the head Ken....... trolling. Mr. DHC has suckered the whole damn group into a lot of chest thumping and hyperventilating. IMHO of course. Joe Z ;-) hey, chest thumping and hyper-ventilating is part of being a man. I shoot guns, race cars with big V-8's in them, and fish. You don't see bass pros or NASCAR drivers who are successful, without a bit of an ego. So this is a good thing. I set out to find out WHY someone would put up with all the downfalls of a baitcaster- and it seems to be, for the cranking in capability. It's certainly not for the casting ability, because they are inferior casting machines. It seems many have been suckered in by advertising ploys. Now that bass pros are showing up with spinning and spincasting reels, it's obvious even the pros aren't buying into this baitcaster line 100%. Who wants to fish with a 3/4 oz. lure all the time ? |
why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater ?
Todd Copeland wrote: "duty-honor-country" wrote in message ps.com... Gary Udstrand wrote: Simply, you cannot judge the performance and usage of the baitcaster based on just your own experience. It appears that you are very much less skilled than others when it comes to casting and controlling such a reel. The reason that baitcasters are popular is that they work well for many, many fisherman. You just don't happen to be one of them. I disagree- I CAN judge the baitcasting reel I'm using, because I bought it- so I have that right. It's mine to hold in whatever regard I want. And after sampling one, unless you use a 3/4 oz. lure and are willing to give up casting distance- the only thing they are good for, is cranking big fish in reliably. A baitcaster casting traits are inferior to spinning and spincasting- in distance and maintenance issues- i.e. backlash tangles. Your posts asks why _"anyone"_ would use a baitcaster... not just yourself. No one can speak for why you would or would not use one. What people _are_ addressing is why they (and most people_ use baitcasters. If you don't agree, don't. But the fact is clear... most people use baitcasters because they _are_ more accurate. the problem is, you have to use 15 lb. test and a 3/4 oz. lure to get the reel to avoid backlash they are more accurate ?? then tie a #8 hook on, and half a live nightwalker- and see how far you can cast, with 8 lb. test. |
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why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater ?TROLL??
Your total ineptness with baitcasting equipment is the real problem here. My
14 year old DAUGHTER can use one with ease. I taught her. You may be toooooooo proud to actually "learn" from someone else with your chest stuck out so far.Do us all a favor and make it your DUTY- to learn to use one. HONOR- us all by not being a blowhard whiner. COUNTRY- move to another one. Or, be a man and admit you can't or won't learn from someone that can teach you. Otherwise, just shut up! This thread had gotten way too much attention. I'm done. "duty-honor-country" wrote in message oups.com... Joe Z wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... Bob La Londe wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote: ... But I tried to cast with my Dad's old Ambasseuder 5000 and never could get the hang of the damn thing, so I basically agree with Mr. d-h-c. 1/2 :-) Never had a 5000, but we had a bunch of 5000D models for catfishing and they were great. They could crank a catfish out of hole like a Warn winch pulling a Volkswagon out of a ditch. ... Funny, I compare it to a winch too but in a disparaging way. I just don't see the challenge in catching a 10 pound fish on 20 lb. test. Hell, you watch some of the stuff on the TV and those guys may as well just push a button. Fish on, zip, fish in the boat. Phooey on that. A challenge is catching a 15 pound fish on 4X 6.4 lb. test. And I'm not talkin' about using 4X just to make a game of it, I'm talking about fishing for Michigan steelhead using a size 14 black stonefly nymph where that's the biggest fly that will work and 4X is the thickest piece of nylon that will fit through the eye of the hook. Now *that's* a challenge, and a workout for the drag on your fly reel, and a test of your skill in applying just the right amount of pressure with the fly rod. -- Ken Fortenberry - not trolling ... well, not too much ;-) I think you hit the nail on the head Ken....... trolling. Mr. DHC has suckered the whole damn group into a lot of chest thumping and hyperventilating. IMHO of course. Joe Z ;-) hey, chest thumping and hyper-ventilating is part of being a man. I shoot guns, race cars with big V-8's in them, and fish. You don't see bass pros or NASCAR drivers who are successful, without a bit of an ego. So this is a good thing. I set out to find out WHY someone would put up with all the downfalls of a baitcaster- and it seems to be, for the cranking in capability. It's certainly not for the casting ability, because they are inferior casting machines. It seems many have been suckered in by advertising ploys. Now that bass pros are showing up with spinning and spincasting reels, it's obvious even the pros aren't buying into this baitcaster line 100%. Who wants to fish with a 3/4 oz. lure all the time ? |
why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater ?TROLL??
Bass_Mr. wrote: Your total ineptness with baitcasting equipment is the real problem here. My 14 year old DAUGHTER can use one with ease. I taught her. You may be toooooooo proud to actually "learn" from someone else with your chest stuck out so far.Do us all a favor and make it your DUTY- to learn to use one. HONOR- us all by not being a blowhard whiner. COUNTRY- move to another one. Or, be a man and admit you can't or won't learn from someone that can teach you. Otherwise, just shut up! This thread had gotten way too much attention. I'm done. Google "Charlie Nudo" or "66fourdoor" and see who you are dealing with. |
why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater ?
"duty-honor-country" wrote in message "Of course, every bass lure has drawbacks. Due to its lack of weight, a bitty jig is much more difficult to flip and pitch into teacup-size openings than a heavy one. LOL... you've never seen me pitch. |
why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater ?TROLL??
Busted as a troll... I consider this topic to be over for me.
Thanks bicyclingg wrote in message oups.com... Bass_Mr. wrote: Your total ineptness with baitcasting equipment is the real problem here. My 14 year old DAUGHTER can use one with ease. I taught her. You may be toooooooo proud to actually "learn" from someone else with your chest stuck out so far.Do us all a favor and make it your DUTY- to learn to use one. HONOR- us all by not being a blowhard whiner. COUNTRY- move to another one. Or, be a man and admit you can't or won't learn from someone that can teach you. Otherwise, just shut up! This thread had gotten way too much attention. I'm done. Google "Charlie Nudo" or "66fourdoor" and see who you are dealing with. |
why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater ?TROLL??
Bass_Mr. wrote: Your total ineptness with baitcasting equipment is the real problem here. My 14 year old DAUGHTER can use one with ease. I taught her. You may be toooooooo proud to actually "learn" from someone else with your chest stuck out so far.Do us all a favor and make it your DUTY- to learn to use one. HONOR- us all by not being a blowhard whiner. COUNTRY- move to another one. Or, be a man and admit you can't or won't learn from someone that can teach you. Otherwise, just shut up! This thread had gotten way too much attention. I'm done. "duty-honor-country" wrote in message oups.com... Joe Z wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... Bob La Londe wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote: ... But I tried to cast with my Dad's old Ambasseuder 5000 and never could get the hang of the damn thing, so I basically agree with Mr. d-h-c. 1/2 :-) Never had a 5000, but we had a bunch of 5000D models for catfishing and they were great. They could crank a catfish out of hole like a Warn winch pulling a Volkswagon out of a ditch. ... Funny, I compare it to a winch too but in a disparaging way. I just don't see the challenge in catching a 10 pound fish on 20 lb. test. Hell, you watch some of the stuff on the TV and those guys may as well just push a button. Fish on, zip, fish in the boat. Phooey on that. A challenge is catching a 15 pound fish on 4X 6.4 lb. test. And I'm not talkin' about using 4X just to make a game of it, I'm talking about fishing for Michigan steelhead using a size 14 black stonefly nymph where that's the biggest fly that will work and 4X is the thickest piece of nylon that will fit through the eye of the hook. Now *that's* a challenge, and a workout for the drag on your fly reel, and a test of your skill in applying just the right amount of pressure with the fly rod. -- Ken Fortenberry - not trolling ... well, not too much ;-) I think you hit the nail on the head Ken....... trolling. Mr. DHC has suckered the whole damn group into a lot of chest thumping and hyperventilating. IMHO of course. Joe Z ;-) hey, chest thumping and hyper-ventilating is part of being a man. I shoot guns, race cars with big V-8's in them, and fish. You don't see bass pros or NASCAR drivers who are successful, without a bit of an ego. So this is a good thing. I set out to find out WHY someone would put up with all the downfalls of a baitcaster- and it seems to be, for the cranking in capability. It's certainly not for the casting ability, because they are inferior casting machines. It seems many have been suckered in by advertising ploys. Now that bass pros are showing up with spinning and spincasting reels, it's obvious even the pros aren't buying into this baitcaster line 100%. Who wants to fish with a 3/4 oz. lure all the time ? How can you pass judgement ? You never saw me cast. Again- you're attacking a person, rather than discussing the gear. And your 14 year old daughter can cast a spinning reel even easier. How many run-overs did you have to untangle for her ? "with ease"- yeh, sure she can.. |
why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater?
duty-honor-country wrote:
jeffc wrote: "Todd Copeland" wrote in message ink.net... Your posts asks why _"anyone"_ would use a baitcaster... not just yourself. No one can speak for why you would or would not use one. I'll give it a shot. He's incompetant with bait casting tackle. However, I'm getting the impression he's either pretty dumb, or pretty competant at trolling Usenet. I've got 2 shingles hanging on the wall here. How many do you have ?? Oh, that's right...none. Well...since your so damn smart, why did you buy a conventional reel in the first place? |
why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater ?TROLL??
Charles B. Summers wrote: Busted as a troll... I consider this topic to be over for me. Thanks bicyclingg Just for the record, I have been posting here for awhile under a different name so I didn't just appear out of nowhere. I used to post in the 8track group but left when Charlie Nudo called my wifes job and posted her work phone number and urged others to call her employer. That's not something a normal person does over something that happened on Usenet. I read this group all the time and imagine my displeasure in seeing Mr. Nudo appear. I just sat back and watched things unfold and as is his nature, he started his same old crap. He's a lose cannon and it won't be long before he threatens someone with physical violence as he has done in the past. He uses several addresses to post and has had a number of them banned by Google for abuse. wrote in message oups.com... Bass_Mr. wrote: Your total ineptness with baitcasting equipment is the real problem here. My 14 year old DAUGHTER can use one with ease. I taught her. You may be toooooooo proud to actually "learn" from someone else with your chest stuck out so far.Do us all a favor and make it your DUTY- to learn to use one. HONOR- us all by not being a blowhard whiner. COUNTRY- move to another one. Or, be a man and admit you can't or won't learn from someone that can teach you. Otherwise, just shut up! This thread had gotten way too much attention. I'm done. Google "Charlie Nudo" or "66fourdoor" and see who you are dealing with. |
why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater ?
you seem to have a totally closed mind on the subject, so why do you bother
to ask? bill |
why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater?
This thread reminds me of an old hypothetical question......"How many
angels can dance on the head of a pin?" Is there really a right or wrong answer? I also noted that some peope have more idle time on their hands than a "fisherman" would :). Anyone interested in how the "hot" weather bite is going on Kentucky Lake? JK |
why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater ?
bill allemann wrote: you seem to have a totally closed mind on the subject, so why do you bother to ask? bill hey, you're the expert on the bass newsgroup, right ??- I've yet to see you post rod length recommended per lure weight used- which is ancient rule of thumb for baitcasting- info that a baitcasting guru such as yourself should know. A few have answered calmly and sensibly and were informative. You are amongst the posters who attack people, over the topic is fishing tackle. you must be really fun to fish with, no doubt...no doubt...really fun... |
why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater ?
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 17:15:08 -0500, (John Kerr) wrote:
This thread reminds me of an old hypothetical question......"How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?" Is there really a right or wrong answer? I also noted that some peope have more idle time on their hands than a "fisherman" would :). Anyone interested in how the "hot" weather bite is going on Kentucky Lake? JK Always interested in what you have to say John. Coming to the NWC? I've learned that I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy it! Remove the x for e-mail reply Amateur radio enthusiast, N9JBF Bass fishing Aficionado! www.outdoorfrontiers.com www.SecretWeaponLures.com A proud charter member of "PETAF", People for Eating Tasty Animals and Fish!!! |
why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater ?TROLL??
wrote in message oups.com... Charles B. Summers wrote: Busted as a troll... I consider this topic to be over for me. Thanks bicyclingg Just for the record, I have been posting here for awhile under a different name so I didn't just appear out of nowhere. I used to post in the 8track group but left when Charlie Nudo called my wifes job and posted her work phone number and urged others to call her employer. That's not something a normal person does over something that happened on Usenet. I read this group all the time and imagine my displeasure in seeing Mr. Nudo appear. I just sat back and watched things unfold and as is his nature, he started his same old crap. He's a lose cannon and it won't be long before he threatens someone with physical violence as he has done in the past. He uses several addresses to post and has had a number of them banned by Google for abuse. wrote in message oups.com... Bass_Mr. wrote: Your total ineptness with baitcasting equipment is the real problem here. My 14 year old DAUGHTER can use one with ease. I taught her. You may be toooooooo proud to actually "learn" from someone else with your chest stuck out so far.Do us all a favor and make it your DUTY- to learn to use one. HONOR- us all by not being a blowhard whiner. COUNTRY- move to another one. Or, be a man and admit you can't or won't learn from someone that can teach you. Otherwise, just shut up! This thread had gotten way too much attention. I'm done. Google "Charlie Nudo" or "66fourdoor" and see who you are dealing with. Ricky..Ricky..Ricky.. Must we bring your skeletons in the closet out into the daylight? Hey all....this guy actually stalked someones house that he got into a flame war with! |
why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater ?TROLL??
Frugal Joe wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Charles B. Summers wrote: Busted as a troll... I consider this topic to be over for me. Thanks bicyclingg Just for the record, I have been posting here for awhile under a different name so I didn't just appear out of nowhere. I used to post in the 8track group but left when Charlie Nudo called my wifes job and posted her work phone number and urged others to call her employer. That's not something a normal person does over something that happened on Usenet. I read this group all the time and imagine my displeasure in seeing Mr. Nudo appear. I just sat back and watched things unfold and as is his nature, he started his same old crap. He's a lose cannon and it won't be long before he threatens someone with physical violence as he has done in the past. He uses several addresses to post and has had a number of them banned by Google for abuse. wrote in message oups.com... Bass_Mr. wrote: Your total ineptness with baitcasting equipment is the real problem here. My 14 year old DAUGHTER can use one with ease. I taught her. You may be toooooooo proud to actually "learn" from someone else with your chest stuck out so far.Do us all a favor and make it your DUTY- to learn to use one. HONOR- us all by not being a blowhard whiner. COUNTRY- move to another one. Or, be a man and admit you can't or won't learn from someone that can teach you. Otherwise, just shut up! This thread had gotten way too much attention. I'm done. Google "Charlie Nudo" or "66fourdoor" and see who you are dealing with. Ricky..Ricky..Ricky.. Must we bring your skeletons in the closet out into the daylight? Hey all....this guy actually stalked someones house that he got into a flame war with! good post- beware the person called BASS MR. He is some loser who tried to commit suicide in the Navy, and was dishonorably discharged. He then went into depression, and is addicted to Prozac. He's been divorced once, and is currently scamming the Pa. Dept. of Welfare- he says he's separated from his wife, so he can get welfare benefits and checks while she works. This is the same guy that threatens to come take pictures of your house to post on the net, when he loses a flame war. He has an anger management problem. And he's unemployed, and unemployable. |
why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater ?TROLL??
Frugal Joe wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Charles B. Summers wrote: Busted as a troll... I consider this topic to be over for me. Thanks bicyclingg Just for the record, I have been posting here for awhile under a different name so I didn't just appear out of nowhere. I used to post in the 8track group but left when Charlie Nudo called my wifes job and posted her work phone number and urged others to call her employer. That's not something a normal person does over something that happened on Usenet. I read this group all the time and imagine my displeasure in seeing Mr. Nudo appear. I just sat back and watched things unfold and as is his nature, he started his same old crap. He's a lose cannon and it won't be long before he threatens someone with physical violence as he has done in the past. He uses several addresses to post and has had a number of them banned by Google for abuse. wrote in message oups.com... Bass_Mr. wrote: Your total ineptness with baitcasting equipment is the real problem here. My 14 year old DAUGHTER can use one with ease. I taught her. You may be toooooooo proud to actually "learn" from someone else with your chest stuck out so far.Do us all a favor and make it your DUTY- to learn to use one. HONOR- us all by not being a blowhard whiner. COUNTRY- move to another one. Or, be a man and admit you can't or won't learn from someone that can teach you. Otherwise, just shut up! This thread had gotten way too much attention. I'm done. Google "Charlie Nudo" or "66fourdoor" and see who you are dealing with. Ricky..Ricky..Ricky.. Must we bring your skeletons in the closet out into the daylight? Hey all....this guy actually stalked someones house that he got into a flame war with! yes, and he actually posted that he would sneak past the security of a gated community to do it- that was reported to the cops, and they were going to arrest him on sight- too funny !! let's dig up a few more skeletons on "bicycle" he tried to commit suicide in the Navy, and was dishonorably discharged. he deserted his first wife and kids, left them homeless and unfed he's unemployed he is scamming the Pa. dept of welfare for checks, saying his second wife and he are separated, when they aren't and she works full time he threatens to take pictures of your house and post them on the net, when he loses a flame war- so he has an anger management problem notice how he deletes every post he puts up his wife had a free net mail account from an employer- he abused the mail account, and she was fired you get the picture ?? everyone- call the Pittsburgh welfare dept. and report him for double dipping |
why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater ?
John Kerr wrote: This thread reminds me of an old hypothetical question......"How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?" Is there really a right or wrong answer? I also noted that some peope have more idle time on their hands than a "fisherman" would :). Anyone interested in how the "hot" weather bite is going on Kentucky Lake? JK and the thread got 100 replies- seems like an interesting subject |
why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater ?
bill allemann wrote: you seem to have a totally closed mind on the subject, so why do you bother to ask? bill no not at all- yesterday I went fishing with a large plug on this rig- it's casting better as if the line and reel are breaking in or something- but still not as far as my spinning rod I'm just giving an objective view of this, that's all. Rather than being more accurate and casting further, it is less accurate and casting not as far as my spinning rig. So I wanted to hear others' views, as to why they believe a baitcaster is worthwhile. nothing more than that |
why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater ?
CAINE wrote: John Kerr wrote: This thread reminds me of an old hypothetical question......"How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?" Is there really a right or wrong answer? I also noted that some peope have more idle time on their hands than a "fisherman" would :). Anyone interested in how the "hot" weather bite is going on Kentucky Lake? JK and the thread got 100 replies- seems like an interesting subject Why is "duty-honor-country" now posting as "CAINE"? Charlie Nudo tries to dupe 'em yet again. |
why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater ?TROLL??
CAINE wrote: Frugal Joe wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Charles B. Summers wrote: Busted as a troll... I consider this topic to be over for me. Thanks bicyclingg Just for the record, I have been posting here for awhile under a different name so I didn't just appear out of nowhere. I used to post in the 8track group but left when Charlie Nudo called my wifes job and posted her work phone number and urged others to call her employer. That's not something a normal person does over something that happened on Usenet. I read this group all the time and imagine my displeasure in seeing Mr. Nudo appear. I just sat back and watched things unfold and as is his nature, he started his same old crap. He's a lose cannon and it won't be long before he threatens someone with physical violence as he has done in the past. He uses several addresses to post and has had a number of them banned by Google for abuse. wrote in message oups.com... Bass_Mr. wrote: Your total ineptness with baitcasting equipment is the real problem here. My 14 year old DAUGHTER can use one with ease. I taught her. You may be toooooooo proud to actually "learn" from someone else with your chest stuck out so far.Do us all a favor and make it your DUTY- to learn to use one. HONOR- us all by not being a blowhard whiner. COUNTRY- move to another one. Or, be a man and admit you can't or won't learn from someone that can teach you. Otherwise, just shut up! This thread had gotten way too much attention. I'm done. Google "Charlie Nudo" or "66fourdoor" and see who you are dealing with. Ricky..Ricky..Ricky.. Must we bring your skeletons in the closet out into the daylight? Hey all....this guy actually stalked someones house that he got into a flame war with! yes, and he actually posted that he would sneak past the security of a gated community to do it- that was reported to the cops, and they were going to arrest him on sight- too funny !! What's a "gated community"? let's dig up a few more skeletons on "bicycle" he tried to commit suicide in the Navy, and was dishonorably discharged. Was never in the service, sorry. he deserted his first wife and kids, left them homeless and unfed Have been married to the same woman for 24 years now. he's unemployed Have been a machinist for over 20 years now. he is scamming the Pa. dept of welfare for checks, saying his second wife and he are separated, when they aren't and she works full time What????? he threatens to take pictures of your house and post them on the net, when he loses a flame war- so he has an anger management problem Um yeah, whatever. You have issues man, get some help. notice how he deletes every post he puts up Nope. his wife had a free net mail account from an employer- he abused the mail account, and she was fired She's been at the same employer for over 7 years now. you get the picture ?? We sure do. everyone- call the Pittsburgh welfare dept. and report him for double dipping Why don't you call them? |
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