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"slenon" wrote in message
m...
Your arguments are worth consideration. However, a flight may originate
in
Africa or Asia, stop in Europe, and continue to the U.S. or Canada.
There are some insecticides that are of relatively low impact upon humans
and seem to maintain efficacy against insects.

I don't think it really matters where the flight originates. An infected
mosquito leaving an airplane in the US or Canada has a pretty low chance of
surving to transmit malaria. It could happen, but even if it did, a single
case will unlikley lead to an epidemic as malaria gets diagnosed and treated
fairly promptly. There have been about 20 cases of locally aquired malaria
in the US since 1986, all have been quickly identified and dealt with. The
public health infrastructure is pretty good. It is probably much better to
respond where necessary, than to needlessly treat every aircraft with
insecticides.

While humans are a reservoir for malaria and other insect vectored
diseases,
we may discover that they can be transmitted by other than the usual
vector
and hosted by unsuspected species. Malaria existed in the U.S. up into
the
1930's in areas as far north as lat 37. Recent news in FL indicates that
some of our local mosquito species are now transmitting malaria just as
yours in Canada are doing.


The Florida cases were considered to be the result of "extended transmission
from a single infected person".
(http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/PDF/wk/mm5238.pdf ) That means to me that it was
local mosquitoes that aquired malaria and tranmsitted it. Spraying airplanes
with insecticides would have done nothing to prevent an infected person from
bringing the parasite in and infecting local mosquitoes.

There is no mosquito transmission of malaria in Canada at present. All cases
are imported in humans. Malarai has been transmitted in Canada in the past.
An outbreak occurred in Ottawa in the 1800's. It was caused by an influx of
infected British military personnel who came from India.

You are arguing based upon known factors and to some degree upon those
factors being stable. I'm arguing based upon probabilities that new
vectors
and hosts will emerge as travel and trade allow. I hope you are correct.

There is a lot known about malaria. I doubt new hosts will emerge, and the
vector species are well known, including the ones in the US.

Tim Lysyk

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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Well, ya beat me to it........I was thinking the same thing.......but I'm
no
authority......if we could just find an entomologist or
something.....maybe
he could help us......I dunno.....whattya think?

Good idea, but where the hell are we going to find an entomologist.

Tim Lysyk

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encopresis...that's what i'm thinkin.

Wolfgang wrote:

"slenon" wrote in message
m...

Your arguments are worth consideration.....


Well, ya beat me to it........I was thinking the same thing.......but I'm no
authority......if we could just find an entomologist or something.....maybe
he could help us......I dunno.....whattya think?

Wolfgang

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"Tim Lysyk" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

Well, ya beat me to it........I was thinking the same thing.......but
I'm
no
authority......if we could just find an entomologist or
something.....maybe
he could help us......I dunno.....whattya think?

Good idea, but where the hell are we going to find an entomologist.

Tim Lysyk

Hell, I don't know......they're like cops and English majors.....you can
never find the fukkers when you need them. :(

Wolfgang

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"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
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encopresis...that's what i'm thinkin.

Not surprising.......all too often the result of a costive wit.

Wolfgang
and that ain't no red herring.

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"slenon" wrote in message
. com...
Your arguments are worth consideration.....

Well, ya beat me to it........I was thinking the same thing.......but I'm
no
authority......if we could just find an entomologist or something.....maybe
he could help us......I dunno.....whattya think?
Wolfgang

I think that a six pack of Messiah Stout and some good steaks would ease us
into an apparent mutual solution. If we can't find a suitable piece of
entomologist, or even if one is available, beef would be an acceptable
substitute.

--
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm

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Tim Lysyk:
Thepublic health infrastructure is pretty good. It is probably much better
to
respond where necessary, than to needlessly treat every aircraft with
insecticides.

With regard to Malaria, this may be true. I'd have to spend some time
pulling data to dispute your numbers re locally acquired cases and would
likely find much the same as you cite. In the years since I entered
clinical practice, I've seen four or five cases. At least one of these
involved a patient with no history of travel outside the CONUS. Another
could possibly have been a relapse from infection at an early age.

But the public health response is also hampered by the lack of willingness
of some populations to provide required information. I've worked with state
epidemiologists in tracking one large Hep A outbreak and was amazed at how
uncooperative part of the infected population was. I can't begin to imagine
trying to track outbreaks in a locale like Miami where immigration status is
also a factor in cooperation.

There is a lot known about malaria. I doubt new hosts will emerge, and the
vector species are well known, including the ones in the US.

No argument here. I was generalizing with respect to tropical and other
insect borne diseases.

--
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm

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"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
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encopresis...that's what i'm thinkin.

Not surprising.......all too often the result of a costive wit.
Wolfgang

Fortunately, gentlemen, there are palliatives and treatments available for
both complaints. I suggest you consult local practitioners. Until then,
keep a change of clothing handy. Best of luck in dealing with your
complaints.

--
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69