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Jeff December 12th, 2003 03:17 PM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
and thanks again... i hit kevin's note before yours as i'm at the
office (slow day) and the threads are listed by most recent first...

a friend loaned me his 1st edition of a zern book, illustrated by
someone mentioned here before, and i read most of his humorous
paragraphs... but i don't remember this one. anyhow, thanks... zern is
always a fun read... like an abbreviated thurber.

jeff

Charlie Choc wrote:

On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 04:03:29 -0500, Jeff Miller
wrote:



Kevin Vang wrote:


Ever read Ed Zern's story about how to get appointed to the
Supreme Court?


nope...but i'm interested in all angles. do tell...


http://www.flyanglersonline.com/lighterside/part13.html



Bluestone December 12th, 2003 05:59 PM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
"Wolfgang" wrote in message ...
"Bluestone" wrote in message
m...

~~~~~Wolfy, seek help.


Oh jeez, man, if you only knew! EVERYBODY in this fukkin place tells me to
get help. And EVERY time somebody says "get help", I go out and get some
more help. It's got to where I can't take a **** in the morning without
some damned helper asking me "Shall I shake, Sir?" I got helpers in my
bedroom.....I got helpers in the kitchen....I got helpers in the laundry
room.....****, I got so many fukkin helpers in the back of the van I can't
even hear Cokie Roberts on the liberal controlled media on the way to work
in the morning for all the fukkin helpers yammering in the back seat! I got
helpers so thick under the living room carpet it looks like some kinda
fukkin James Cameron movie on hallucinogens......the damned dog won't even
come in the house anymore!

Wolfgang
help this! :(


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~
Wolfy, calm down, take your meds for god sakes.
;)

Bluestone December 12th, 2003 06:03 PM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
lid wrote in message . ..
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:58:39 -0500, "Tim J."
wrote:



Here, here! All I've been able to gather from this discourse is that SOMEONE
runs a moderated bulletin board and SOMEONE ELSE is ****ed because he moderated
it. Go figure.



~~~~Cyli, you gathered incorrect, carry on ;)
bluestonerod

Tim J. December 12th, 2003 06:18 PM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 

"Bluestone" wrote in message
om...
lid wrote in message

. ..
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:58:39 -0500, "Tim J."
wrote:


Here, here! All I've been able to gather from this discourse is that

SOMEONE
runs a moderated bulletin board and SOMEONE ELSE is ****ed because he

moderated
it. Go figure.



~~~~Cyli, you gathered incorrect, carry on ;)


Yeah, cyli is not really very observant. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
(this puzzle should take hours)
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



Bluestone December 12th, 2003 06:24 PM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
"Mike Connor" Mike-Connor wrote in message ws.com...
"Gingercatz" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
om...
2 observations

1. Gary Perez of Bluestone rod is ****ed because he got moderated or
edited on the rod board. The reason he posted it here is because he
thought he would get back at the board owner and maybe 'ruin' him by
virtue of public opinion. It would appear that he failed.

2. Any of you who aren't interested in this conversation and believe
the participants to be 'halfwits' make an interesting bunch of
halfwits yourself - why are you bothering to read and respond to
anything which you say you have no interest in? I think you actually
relish the 'drama.'


A little comic relief is always welcome, no matter what the subject or
source. If you wish to construe that as "interest", well then you are
correct. If you actually read the responses to date, you will discover that
most people were merely trying to point out to dear old sapphire that he is
wasting his time posting this stuff here.

His reasons for doing so were quite obvious from the start, as were his
specious arguments. The effect on Mr.Kirkman will likely remain absolutely
zero, apart perhaps from some mild amusement on his part, as based on his
silly posts to date, nobody gives a **** what dear old sapphire has to say
about him. Not even Mr.Kirkman, as the motivation and absolutely ridiculous
basis for the posts is amply clear, and is set out very clearly in the posts
themselves.

Even supposing that everything old sapphire writes is the absolute and
unadorned truth, this by no means casts a slur on Mr. Kirkman, as he has the
perfect right to do anything he likes on his own board, and nobody with any
sense, either here or elsewhere, will disagree with that basic premise,
which our poor befuddled old sapphire apparently finds impossible to accept.

Our precious stone is obviously more than somewhat misguided regarding
"boards" specifically, and Usenet and the internet in general. He is not the
first, and he wont be the last.

For some, including myself, such behaviour is fascinating, as it gives
insight into abnormal thought processes, which are also based on faulty
reasoning. Observing such behaviour is perversely satisfying, possibly due
to its very abnormality.

The complete inability to grasp or accept obvious facts, although fairly
widespread, is not easy to observe in such glorious completeness. Here we
have a perfect example of it, not the first we have seen here, but
definitely
one of the more shining examples, and are suitably awed and curious as to
its
causes and effects. Indeed, some of us are driven to investigate even
further, in the, probably completely vain, hope of understanding how such a
thing is possible.

Practically the only way to give anybody here the impression that you are a
half-wit, is, to behave like one. In this case, all the relevant criteria
have been fulfilled.

Strange as it may seem, this newsgroup exists for no other purpose than
allowing people to read what others post. Deciding not to read some posts,
requires conscious effort, or action, and this is simply too much trouble to
take.
Many people here read every single post. Even the stupid ones. This even
provides a modicum of amusement on occasion.

Some dramas may benefit from having a large number of players. I donīt think
this one will.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Mike ,anymore contradictions and i shall be forced to
insert you in biblical form.

Have a nice day Mike
bluestonerod

Mike Connor December 12th, 2003 07:04 PM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 

"Bluestone" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
om...
"Mike Connor" Mike-Connor wrote in message

ws.com...
SNIP
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Mike ,anymore contradictions and i shall be forced to
insert you in biblical form.

Have a nice day Mike
bluestonerod


Allow me to hazard a guess or three as to the meaning of that apparently
quite nonsensical statement? You have a "Play-Doh" set with a Moses mould?
You are an avid supporter of unnatural sexual practices? It is an
incredibly cleverly veiled insult?

As this is an unmoderated group, it is hardly sensible to expect moderation,
many do however expect a modicum of sense. Most unfortunate that they are so
regularly disappointed.

MC



Bluestone December 12th, 2003 10:57 PM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
"Mike Connor" Mike-Connor wrote in message ws.com...
"Bluestone" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
om...
"Mike Connor" Mike-Connor wrote in message

ws.com...
SNIP
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Mike ,anymore contradictions and i shall be forced to
insert you in biblical form.

Have a nice day Mike
bluestonerod


Allow me to hazard a guess or three as to the meaning of that apparently
quite nonsensical statement? You have a "Play-Doh" set with a Moses mould?
You are an avid supporter of unnatural sexual practices? It is an
incredibly cleverly veiled insult?

As this is an unmoderated group, it is hardly sensible to expect moderation,
many do however expect a modicum of sense. Most unfortunate that they are so
regularly disappointed.

MC



~~~~~MC, i'm not here to teach you,it made perfect sense to me.
:)

bluestonerod

Mike Connor December 12th, 2003 11:43 PM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 

"Bluestone" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
om...
SNIP
~~~~~MC, i'm not here to teach you,it made perfect sense to me.
:)

bluestonerod


We all know why you are here. You are engaged in a futile attempt to "teach
somebody a lesson". Admittedly not myself, which is just as well, as I
rather doubt there is anything much you could teach me in any case, and
almost certainly nothing worthwhile.

Unfortunately for you, communication on any useful level, demands that what
you write makes sense to others. Otherwise, it is not communication, it is
merely senseless drivel.

MC




David Snedeker December 13th, 2003 02:22 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 

"Bluestone" wrote in message
om...

Wolfy, calm down, take your meds for god sakes.
;)


Never will happen alas.

Dave



[email protected] December 13th, 2003 04:25 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:54:54 -0600, Kevin Vang
wrote:

In article , hugh_jass_90211
says...
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 04:03:29 -0500, Jeff Miller
wrote:



http://www.flyanglersonline.com/lighterside/part13.html



Which led me to gently to Chester, who amused me so much that I had to
stop reading and sit and laugh a while.
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

[email protected] December 13th, 2003 05:30 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:18:56 -0500, "Tim J."
wrote:


"Bluestone" wrote in message
. com...
lid wrote in message

...
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:58:39 -0500, "Tim J."
wrote:


Here, here! All I've been able to gather from this discourse is that

SOMEONE
runs a moderated bulletin board and SOMEONE ELSE is ****ed because he

moderated
it. Go figure.



~~~~Cyli, you gathered incorrect, carry on ;)


Yeah, cyli is not really very observant. ;-)



Thank you, Tim.

Bluestone, you can't even figure out your own newsreader. It's more
knowledgeable than you are. HINT: that was not me who said that.

Maybe you should learn your newsreader, the Web, and the 'Net before
you post again.
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

Jeff Miller December 13th, 2003 11:31 AM

fun reids...uh, reads
 
for those who don't have it already, here's the main link to
archives...pleasant diversions. frank r should read the "a fine art"
series.

http://www.flyanglersonline.com/ligh...e/archive.html

jeff


Jeff Miller December 13th, 2003 11:42 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 


David Snedeker wrote:

"Bluestone" wrote in message
om...


Wolfy, calm down, take your meds for god sakes.
;)



Never will happen alas.



eerie...kinda reminds me of what they tried to do to ol elwood p. dowd.

jeff (i'll have two martinis, bartender)




slenon December 13th, 2003 12:04 PM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
eerie...kinda reminds me of what they tried to do to ol elwood p. dowd.
jeff (i'll have two martinis, bartender)


Wouldn't you rather make that a Harvey Wallbanger?

--
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm




Bluestone December 14th, 2003 03:23 PM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
I found a good deal for rod support roller o-rings at C & G Tackle
Outlet, which are
selling for fifty cents ($.50) less than Renzetti's current price.
Renzetti is
'Kirkman's sponsor'; C & G Tackle Outlet can more than likely be
termed: 'less
than Kirkman's sponsor', as i have been summarily informed.

When i posted this information on rodbuilding.org, Kirkman removed my
post.
Many posts with various views followed: Kirkman removed them all, and
sent me the following email:


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Gary,

The owner of C&G Tackle has a history of attacking me and spreading
rumors
and falsehoods designed expressly to harm RodMaker Magazine and
RodBuilding.org. He is free to do that, but I will not provide him
with
the means to do so. I spent much time promoting his former companies,
Clemens Tackle and RodCrafters and was repaid by his distasteful
conduct.

I will not go into this any further. I am the owner of
Rodbuilding.org
and
have 100% authority on what can, and cannot, be posted there. My
record
and work on behalf of the rod building industry is beyond reproach. I
will
not allow any group or individual to destroy what I have done on
behalf
of
the rod building craft.

It is also important that I protect and promote those companies who
have
been willing to foot the bill to provide what most builders feel is a
truly
excellent site. It isn't free - somebody has to pay for it and when
non-sponsors take an unfair advantage in promoting their products on a
board that others are paying for, I will put my foot down.


Sincerely,

Tom Kirkman"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~

I find your email to be ambiguous hyperbole. I am not interested
in your personal life, nor the soap operas or the seeming vendettas
which may abound therein; however, i am interested
in giving all rodcrafters the best information i have.

In addition, i have no wish to post something you find so abhorrent
on your bulletin board.

As a newcomer to boards and newsgroups, (though i have
been building rods and teaching rodbuilding for over 20 yrs), i would
appreciate
all relevant responses to this situation. How far does one go to
censor a fifty cent
savings? One's sponsor would object?

Thank you in advance,

Sincerely,

bluestonerod

Mike Connor December 14th, 2003 04:08 PM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 

"Bluestone" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
om...
SNIP
As a newcomer to boards and newsgroups, (though i have
been building rods and teaching rodbuilding for over 20 yrs), i would
appreciate
all relevant responses to this situation.

SNIP

You got plenty, but you chose to ignore them. Mr. Kirkman is beyond
reproach, his explanations were simple and honest, and you are simply
interested in **** stirring, in the hope of damaging him. More than enough
people have told you so, and still you refuse to accept the evidence. You
are not only stupid, but recalcitrant as well.

MC



Stan Gula December 14th, 2003 04:12 PM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
big sniperoo

Blue,

Get over it. You posted information harmful to the board owners business.
He censored it, as he has a right to. End of story. I don't see any big
rousing support for your 'cause' here. Or are you just a crank in general,
and now want to bring your pain-in-the-ass attitude to us, most of whom
don't build rods anyways? In that last part you're succeeding. However, I
hear the plonks echoing across the 'net as you lose your potential audience.
Oops, there goes mine!

--
Stan Gula
http://gula.org/roffswaps



Bluestone December 15th, 2003 01:52 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
"Mike Connor" Mike-Connor wrote in message ws.com...
"Bluestone" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
om...
SNIP
As a newcomer to boards and newsgroups, (though i have
been building rods and teaching rodbuilding for over 20 yrs), i would
appreciate
all relevant responses to this situation.

SNIP

You got plenty, but you chose to ignore them. Mr. Kirkman is beyond
reproach, his explanations were simple and honest, and you are simply
interested in **** stirring, in the hope of damaging him. More than enough
people have told you so, and still you refuse to accept the evidence. You
are not only stupid, but recalcitrant as well.
MC

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
No one with any LOYALTY to sharing information would be happy!
The BB site ,rodbuilding.org was placed there simply to help and
inform the Rod Builders ,paid by the sponsors for Rod Builders to
share and answer as to ask questions ,which i'm sure you haven't read
the rules Mr.Connor ,or it seems as.
Its evident that Mr.Kirkman was not worried about any Rod Builder
obtaining
a lower price or knowledge(pertaining to "O" rings) this is clear ,the
point to all this has nothing to do with sponsors but a reflection
that two people don't get along with each other so stated in Mr.
Kirkman's email ,and so be it Kirkman damn the knowledgeable post.
Nothing to do with sponsors just simply Kirkman ,its clear that the
dept of the original post is misunderstood by many as it is for you
Sir....Your ad hominem arguement as your vociferous rants reflects in
reality who you are Mr.Connor.


Sincerely,
bluestonerod

a-happy-up-yours December 15th, 2003 02:21 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
Bluestone wrote:
"Mike Connor" Mike-Connor wrote in message ws.com...

"Bluestone" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
.com...
SNIP

As a newcomer to boards and newsgroups, (though i have
been building rods and teaching rodbuilding for over 20 yrs), i would
appreciate
all relevant responses to this situation.


SNIP

You got plenty, but you chose to ignore them. Mr. Kirkman is beyond
reproach, his explanations were simple and honest, and you are simply
interested in **** stirring, in the hope of damaging him. More than enough
people have told you so, and still you refuse to accept the evidence. You
are not only stupid, but recalcitrant as well.
MC


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
No one with any LOYALTY to sharing information would be happy!
The BB site ,rodbuilding.org was placed there simply to help and
inform the Rod Builders ,paid by the sponsors for Rod Builders to
share and answer as to ask questions ,which i'm sure you haven't read
the rules Mr.Connor ,or it seems as.
Its evident that Mr.Kirkman was not worried about any Rod Builder
obtaining
a lower price or knowledge(pertaining to "O" rings) this is clear ,the
point to all this has nothing to do with sponsors but a reflection
that two people don't get along with each other so stated in Mr.
Kirkman's email ,and so be it Kirkman damn the knowledgeable post.
Nothing to do with sponsors just simply Kirkman ,its clear that the
dept of the original post is misunderstood by many as it is for you
Sir....Your ad hominem arguement as your vociferous rants reflects in
reality who you are Mr.Connor.


Sincerely,
bluestonerod



~~~~~~~~~~~~

This entire equation might be reduced to:

bluestonerod = dickhead

It is the opinion and observation of this gentle reader that Messr.
bluestonerod has made this quite obvious by his incessant whining,
blathering (and unending) posts, to date, but I felt obliged to
illuminate the basic solution.



Messr. bluestone,

Your points have been duly recorded. Thank you for your time and effort
in bringing this invaluable subject to the attention of this group.
Certainly, any number of the many thousands of readers have saved
millions in the coinage of their respective realms through the critical
information that you have, so generously, provided. No doubt, the
provenance of the financial integrity of the entire free world....and
beyond....turns on your every thought and pronouncement. I am forever
indebted and I'm sure that the thousands of other gentle readers will
concur. Certainly, every single person beneficially affected will
summon the heralds in recognition of the value of your worthy efforts.
Indeed, it is the first thing on my mind.


And may I say, in the most cavalier fashion...thanks and best regards.

With all due respect,

ihaveanameanditsnotbluestoneroditstom


Bluestone December 15th, 2003 04:31 PM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
a-happy-up-yours wrote in message ink.net...
Bluestone wrote:
"Mike Connor" Mike-Connor wrote in message ws.com...

"Bluestone" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
.com...
SNIP

As a newcomer to boards and newsgroups, (though i have
been building rods and teaching rodbuilding for over 20 yrs), i would
appreciate
all relevant responses to this situation.

SNIP

You got plenty, but you chose to ignore them. Mr. Kirkman is beyond
reproach, his explanations were simple and honest, and you are simply
interested in **** stirring, in the hope of damaging him. More than enough
people have told you so, and still you refuse to accept the evidence. You
are not only stupid, but recalcitrant as well.
MC


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
No one with any LOYALTY to sharing information would be happy!
The BB site ,rodbuilding.org was placed there simply to help and
inform the Rod Builders ,paid by the sponsors for Rod Builders to
share and answer as to ask questions ,which i'm sure you haven't read
the rules Mr.Connor ,or it seems as.
Its evident that Mr.Kirkman was not worried about any Rod Builder
obtaining
a lower price or knowledge(pertaining to "O" rings) this is clear ,the
point to all this has nothing to do with sponsors but a reflection
that two people don't get along with each other so stated in Mr.
Kirkman's email ,and so be it Kirkman damn the knowledgeable post.
Nothing to do with sponsors just simply Kirkman ,its clear that the
dept of the original post is misunderstood by many as it is for you
Sir....Your ad hominem arguement as your vociferous rants reflects in
reality who you are Mr.Connor.


Sincerely,
bluestonerod



~~~~~~~~~~~~

This entire equation might be reduced to:

bluestonerod = dickhead

It is the opinion and observation of this gentle reader that Messr.
bluestonerod has made this quite obvious by his incessant whining,
blathering (and unending) posts, to date, but I felt obliged to
illuminate the basic solution.



Messr. bluestone,

Your points have been duly recorded. Thank you for your time and effort
in bringing this invaluable subject to the attention of this group.
Certainly, any number of the many thousands of readers have saved
millions in the coinage of their respective realms through the critical
information that you have, so generously, provided. No doubt, the
provenance of the financial integrity of the entire free world....and
beyond....turns on your every thought and pronouncement. I am forever
indebted and I'm sure that the thousands of other gentle readers will
concur. Certainly, every single person beneficially affected will
summon the heralds in recognition of the value of your worthy efforts.
Indeed, it is the first thing on my mind.


And may I say, in the most cavalier fashion...thanks and best regards.

With all due respect,

ihaveanameanditsnotbluestoneroditstom


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Lets try again ,boisterous blatant.

Noted for the record ,that a-happy-up-yours ,AKA tom ,makes a valid
point on how well his time is used ,nothing to do with said subject or
original post
but part of the tom puppethand gang."THE TRUTH HURTS".



bluestonerod

Wolfgang December 15th, 2003 04:33 PM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 

"Bluestone" wrote in message
om...
..."THE TRUTH HURTS".


Not enough......obviously.

Wolfgang



Tim J. December 15th, 2003 05:31 PM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 

"Wolfgang" wrote...
"Bluestone" wrote...
..."THE TRUTH HURTS".


Not enough......obviously.


:)

IMHO, there is only one way Mr. Perez will ever possibly redeem himself in this
arena, and that is to pull what we lovingly call a "Frank Church" and publicly
apologize for his abhorrent behavior.
--
TL,
Tim
(who loves ya, Frankie?) G
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



Ken Fortenberry December 15th, 2003 06:01 PM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
Tim J. wrote:

IMHO, there is only one way Mr. Perez will ever possibly redeem himself in this
arena, and that is to pull what we lovingly call a "Frank Church" and publicly
apologize for his abhorrent behavior.


Piffle. Mr. "Bluestone" Perez can type out apologies until he's
worn his fingers down to the nub and he will STILL be a pigheaded
nitwit.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Tim J. December 15th, 2003 06:28 PM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
y.com...
Tim J. wrote:

IMHO, there is only one way Mr. Perez will ever possibly redeem himself in

this
arena, and that is to pull what we lovingly call a "Frank Church" and

publicly
apologize for his abhorrent behavior.


Piffle. Mr. "Bluestone" Perez can type out apologies until he's
worn his fingers down to the nub and he will STILL be a pigheaded
nitwit.


Well, sure, but it would never happen anyway. Being that anyone who disagrees
with Mr. P is a halfwit, no apology is forthcoming in the near future. I just
thought it might add some additional entertainment value.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



Mike Connor December 16th, 2003 03:17 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 

"Bluestone" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
om...
Bull**** snipped
bluestonerod


If the truth hurt, you would be lying on the floor writhing in pain. You
donīt see the truth, or are loath to accept it. It is still the truth.

Wasted enough time on you anyway.

Have a nice Christmas.

MC



Bluestone December 16th, 2003 03:10 PM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
"Mike Connor" wrote in message ...
"Bluestone" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
om...
Bull**** snipped
bluestonerod


If the truth hurt, you would be lying on the floor writhing in pain. You
donīt see the truth, or are loath to accept it. It is still the truth.

Wasted enough time on you anyway.


++++++++++++++-------------------=+

~~~~I best stop using my freedom to speak as Connor, gets upset and just plainly
can't except it.
Reasonable people disagree Connor, get it thru that thick head of yours.

Anyhow Connor, and the rest, have a pleasant and wonderful Holiday! ;)

bluestonerod

Tim J. December 16th, 2003 03:13 PM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 

"Bluestone" wrote...

Reasonable people disagree Connor, get it thru that thick head of yours.


ROTFLMAO!
--
TL,
Tim
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Russell December 16th, 2003 03:46 PM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
Bluestone wrote:

Reasonable people disagree Connor, get it thru that thick head of yours.

Priceless.

Russell
This guy has no clue.


Mu Young Lee December 16th, 2003 06:03 PM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Bluestone wrote:

Noted for the record ,that a-happy-up-yours ,AKA tom ,makes a valid
point on how well his time is used ,nothing to do with said subject or
original post
but part of the tom puppethand gang."THE TRUTH HURTS".


Dear Mr. Bluestone

It's refreshing to see someone so sure of their convictions in this age of
mamby pamby politically correct apologists. You remind me of a man who
used to post frequently here, the great G. Gerhke, inventor of Gink, the
first modern dry fly floatant. Carry on good sir for the rest of the
world will never truly understand.

Respectfully,
M. Lee
Thousand Oaks, CA



Flyfish December 16th, 2003 09:58 PM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
(Bluestone) wrote in
m:

"Mike Connor" wrote in message
...
"Bluestone" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
om...
Bull**** snipped
bluestonerod


If the truth hurt, you would be lying on the floor writhing in pain.
You donīt see the truth, or are loath to accept it. It is still the
truth.

Wasted enough time on you anyway.


++++++++++++++-------------------=+

~~~~I best stop using my freedom to speak as Connor, gets upset and
just plainly can't except it.
Reasonable people disagree Connor, get it thru that thick head of
yours.

Anyhow Connor, and the rest, have a pleasant and wonderful Holiday! ;)

bluestonerod


I've avoided jumping into the fray until now.

Mr. Bluestone how about a nice cup of shut the **** up?

Hmmm?

Flyfish

Warren December 17th, 2003 01:07 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
wrote...
~~~~I best stop using my freedom to speak as Connor, gets upset and just plainly
can't except it.
Reasonable people disagree Connor, get it thru that thick head of yours.


Man, this thread is like a bad accident; you just can't help but
look! g

Anyway, Mr Dumbasswitharodinhisbunghole, reasonable people have
concluded that you are an idiot. I haven't said anything in this
thread yet, but I wanted to give you my overwhelming support for
being IOTY (Idiot of the Year). Why not spare yourself further
embarrassment and just shut your cock holster. That means your mouth
in case you are too dense to grasp the meaning.

Anyhow Connor, and the rest, have a pleasant and wonderful Holiday! ;)


I hope you get turd in your stocking and **** in your eggnog.
Basically, go **** yourself and take your "wonderful Holiday" wishes
and shove them up your ass. Don't bother responding to me because I
won't see it. Hope you enjoy your stay in my "bozo bin."

PLONK!
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email)

Wayne Harrison December 17th, 2003 01:10 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 

"Warren" wrote

(marvelous diss snipped)

damn bud, you make your old mentor right proud!

yfitons
wayno (maybe we ought to reconsider that trial lawyer thing...)



daytripper December 17th, 2003 01:13 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:58:42 GMT, Flyfish wrote:

(Bluestone) wrote in
om:

"Mike Connor" wrote in message
...
"Bluestone" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
om...
Bull**** snipped
bluestonerod

If the truth hurt, you would be lying on the floor writhing in pain.
You donīt see the truth, or are loath to accept it. It is still the
truth.

Wasted enough time on you anyway.


++++++++++++++-------------------=+

~~~~I best stop using my freedom to speak as Connor, gets upset and
just plainly can't except it.
Reasonable people disagree Connor, get it thru that thick head of
yours.

Anyhow Connor, and the rest, have a pleasant and wonderful Holiday! ;)

bluestonerod


I've avoided jumping into the fray until now.

Mr. Bluestone how about a nice cup of shut the **** up?

Hmmm?

Flyfish


lmao

/daytripper (and make that an "endless" cup, please ;-)

Mike Connor December 17th, 2003 02:54 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
Anyhow Connor, and the rest, have a pleasant and wonderful Holiday! ;)

bluestonerod



Knowing your difficulties in regard to certain information, and its
dissemination, please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my
best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low
stress, non-addictive, gender neutral, celebration of the winter solstice
holiday, practised within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious
persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect
for the religious/secular persuasions and/or traditions of others, or their
choice to refrain from the practice of religious or secular traditions at
all.....and a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling, and medically
uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar
year 2004, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other
cultures whose contributions to society have helped make the world great,
(not to imply that the world (or planet earth) is necessarily greater than
any other planet or is the only "earth" in the universe), and without regard
to the colour, age, physical ability, religious faith, choice of computer
platform, or software preferences of the wishee.

(By accepting this greeting, you (the wishee) are accepting these terms.
This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely
transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies no
promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for
her/himself, others or the wishee, and is void where prohibited by law, and
is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher. This wish is warranted to
perform as expected within the usual applications and constraints, where
applicable, of good tidings, for a period of one year, or until the
issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, then redering it void, whichever
comes first, and warranty is limited to replacement of this wish or issuance
of a new wish to the original wishee only at the sole discretion of the
wisher.

MC



Stephen Welsh December 17th, 2003 03:06 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
"Mike Connor" wrote in news:brogj8$5nv0k$1
@ID-217912.news.uni-berlin.de:

It is freely
transferable with no alteration to the original greeting.


That's exceedingly generous, Mike, I don't know how you do it. You'll
put a lot of greeting tenderers out of business with conditions like
those.

;-)

Steve

Mu Young Lee December 17th, 2003 03:13 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
On Tue, 17 Dec 2003, Stephen Welsh wrote:

That's exceedingly generous, Mike, I don't know how you do it. You'll
put a lot of greeting tenderers out of business with conditions like
those.


Hey, the money is to be made in creating new holidays. Has anyone else
out there heard of something called *Sweetest Day*? It was sort of a
second Valentine's Day in Michigan. Don;t know of its orgiins but all the
gift/flower/greeting card shops in town would advertise like crazy.

Mu

Mike Connor December 17th, 2003 03:19 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 

"Stephen Welsh" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
"Mike Connor" wrote in news:brogj8$5nv0k$1
@ID-217912.news.uni-berlin.de:

It is freely
transferable with no alteration to the original greeting.


That's exceedingly generous, Mike, I don't know how you do it. You'll
put a lot of greeting tenderers out of business with conditions like
those.

;-)

Steve


Well, if they wont sponsor me, then bugger īem! :)

TL
MC



Mike Connor December 17th, 2003 03:29 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 

"Stephen Welsh" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
"Mike Connor" wrote in news:brogj8$5nv0k$1
@ID-217912.news.uni-berlin.de:

It is freely
transferable with no alteration to the original greeting.


That's exceedingly generous, Mike, I don't know how you do it. You'll
put a lot of greeting tenderers out of business with conditions like
those.

;-)

Steve


You should see the greetings cards! Gives a whole new meaning to a "pull
through with a Christmas tree"!

http://www.sexyloops.co.uk/iB_html/u...BefusTree2.jpg

http://www.sexyloops.co.uk/iB_html/u...antacaddis.jpg

http://www.sexyloops.co.uk/iB_html/u...ychristmas.jpg

TL
MC





Warren December 17th, 2003 03:44 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
wrote...
damn bud, you make your old mentor right proud!


Well, thank you. Tis the holiday season and all.... g

yfitons
wayno (maybe we ought to reconsider that trial lawyer thing...)


Well, we'll see about that. Until then, a merry one finger salute to
Mr Rodintheass.

!
..!..
/
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email)

Mike Connor December 17th, 2003 04:00 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 

"Stephen Welsh" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
"Mike Connor" wrote in news:brogj8$5nv0k$1
@ID-217912.news.uni-berlin.de:

It is freely
transferable with no alteration to the original greeting.


That's exceedingly generous, Mike, I don't know how you do it. You'll
put a lot of greeting tenderers out of business with conditions like
those.

;-)

Steve


By the way, lest there be any misunderstandings, I am not the original
author. Somebody sent me the ( "an") original, and I merely altered it
somewhat. ( Thus voiding the whole thing!).

TL
MC




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