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On Oct 9, 3:49*am, Dave LaCourse wrote:
Israel is afraid (make that "concerned") with Iran. *She is VERY capable of defending herself, but she is not going to sit by and wait for Iran to lob a missle or ten her way, especially nuclear tipped ones. *She *will* strike first and that could lead to a third world war, a nuclear one to boot. *Something to consider, eh? Now back to your regular idealogy spamming..... Dave- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Israel is not a woman. Israel is a country. Anthropomorphosizing inanimate objects is a very common devise useful in self delusion and clouding specious reasoning. Harmless with pets but that's about it. Dave |
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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message ... He is a cheap *******, Reese, and you are his apologist. Dave cheap, yes, but I'll bet he never carped about regular unleaded gas. Tom |
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On Oct 9, 3:49*am, Dave LaCourse wrote:
Israel is afraid (make that "concerned") with Iran. *She is VERY capable of defending herself, but she is not going to sit by and wait for Iran to lob a missle or ten her way, especially nuclear tipped ones. *She *will* strike first and that could lead to a third world war, a nuclear one to boot. *Something to consider, eh? Now back to your regular idealogy spamming..... Dave- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Israel is not a woman. Israel is a country. Anthropomorphosizing inanimate objects is a very common devise useful in self delusion and clouding specious reasoning. Harmless with pets but that's about it. Dave |
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On Oct 10, 2:40 am, Dave LaCourse wrote:
Ah, yes, Doug Reese...... Kerry's own little pitbull apologist. With over 57,000 posts in several different news groups, Ahh yes, another person who doesn't know how to figure out how many posts another person has made. Would that I had the time to make 57,000 posts. most apologizing for his hero J. F. Kerry, one has to ask oneself, "How much does Kerry pay you to defend/adore/apoligize for him?" Kerry pays me nothing. Who pays you to post the lies about him? Whatdoyahave, some sort of recognition signal that whenever someone says a disparaging word about the "Hero", it clues you in so you can remark on it and collect from Kerry? Whenever some posts lies, as you have, I comment. If you don't like it, too bad. That has got to keep you busy. d;o) I can tell you that Kerry is the second cheapest man that I know. With an income in the 90's of somewhere around $300K/year, he gave an astonishing $300 to charity. His excuse? He had kids in college. Hell, he married two ATMs and makes more than me, but I managed to pay for my kids' education AND give more than that to charity. He is a cheap *******, Reese, and you are his apologist. I notice you don't defend your lies. Doug Reese Dave |
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History would be the judge of that....
"]The assassination of Obama would be followed by the end of right-wing politics in this country." On Oct 9, 1:55*pm, DaveS wrote: On Oct 9, 11:28*am, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote: " That's right, Barack Obama is goin' down in history as the 44th President of the United States of America. " Ken, Do ya think he will finish out his 1st term, if elected? On Oct 9, 9:06*am, Ken Fortenberry wrote: ~^ beancounter ~^ wrote: Hussein Obama is goin' down...one way or another...imho..... That's right, Barack Obama is goin' down in history as the 44th President of the United States of America. McPalin is running the most despicable, lying, vicious political campaign in modern history and they are quite deliberately stirring up the racists with their hatemongering lies. According to McPalin Obama hates America so much he pals around with domestic terrorists and did you know he wants to peddle porn in our kindergartens. Disgusting **** being tossed out daily in a kitchen sink smear campaign that is as ridiculous as it is repugnant. What on earth *happened* to John McCain ? It's not working. Oh sure, the fundamentalist fruitcakes and the hard core wingnuts revel in the mud and the racists hear a Palin speech and become a wannabe lynch mob but decent Americans aren't buying the McPalin lies and they aren't buying them in droves. Stick a fork in the GOP, they're done. -- Ken Fortenberry- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So are you tee hee implying that someone will kill him? *Or that he might go hunting with "Sure shot" Cheney? Stop talking silly. You know I have put up with vaguely threatening right-wing intimidators all my life. Ive pledged myself to a new personal policy. Here it is: Next time someone threatens me physically for my political beliefs, no matter how cutesy they put it, and they are within reach, they are going to get the best smack I can deliver. I have found no one who didn't get much less threatening at the sight of their own blood. I know a lot of people with progressive politics who feel the same way I do. *And I know a lot of fat ass-ed, pain-pill abusing, out of shape right-wing BSers who think no one will react violently to their threats, or that no one else in the room might be armed. The assassination of Obama would be followed by the end of right-wing politics in this country. Dave Old Progressive Hot Head- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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Beneath Obama's flowery rhetoric lies a dangerous economic plan that will wreak havoc on the American economy. Obama plans to return to the failed policies of high taxation coupled with an expansion of government spending. Worse, Obama says he is absolutely committed to almost doubling the capital gains rate — something he will easily accomplish with a Democrat Congress. In the coming months — when investors realize that Obama will raise the cap gains rate — there could be a stampede of asset sales as investors rush to take their profits now to avoid Obama's doubling of the tax rates next year. On Oct 9, 5:05*pm, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote: History would be the judge of that.... "]The assassination of Obama would be followed by the end of right-wing politics in this country." On Oct 9, 1:55*pm, DaveS wrote: On Oct 9, 11:28*am, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote: " That's right, Barack Obama is goin' down in history as the 44th President of the United States of America. " Ken, Do ya think he will finish out his 1st term, if elected? On Oct 9, 9:06*am, Ken Fortenberry wrote: ~^ beancounter ~^ wrote: Hussein Obama is goin' down...one way or another...imho..... That's right, Barack Obama is goin' down in history as the 44th President of the United States of America. McPalin is running the most despicable, lying, vicious political campaign in modern history and they are quite deliberately stirring up the racists with their hatemongering lies. According to McPalin Obama hates America so much he pals around with domestic terrorists and did you know he wants to peddle porn in our kindergartens. Disgusting **** being tossed out daily in a kitchen sink smear campaign that is as ridiculous as it is repugnant. What on earth *happened* to John McCain ? It's not working. Oh sure, the fundamentalist fruitcakes and the hard core wingnuts revel in the mud and the racists hear a Palin speech and become a wannabe lynch mob but decent Americans aren't buying the McPalin lies and they aren't buying them in droves. Stick a fork in the GOP, they're done. -- Ken Fortenberry- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So are you tee hee implying that someone will kill him? *Or that he might go hunting with "Sure shot" Cheney? Stop talking silly. You know I have put up with vaguely threatening right-wing intimidators all my life. Ive pledged myself to a new personal policy. Here it is: Next time someone threatens me physically for my political beliefs, no matter how cutesy they put it, and they are within reach, they are going to get the best smack I can deliver. I have found no one who didn't get much less threatening at the sight of their own blood. I know a lot of people with progressive politics who feel the same way I do. *And I know a lot of fat ass-ed, pain-pill abusing, out of shape right-wing BSers who think no one will react violently to their threats, or that no one else in the room might be armed. The assassination of Obama would be followed by the end of right-wing politics in this country. Dave Old Progressive Hot Head- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 14:30:05 -0700 (PDT), DaveS
wrote: Israel is not a woman. Israel is a country. Anthropomorphosizing inanimate objects is a very common devise useful in self delusion and clouding specious reasoning. Harmless with pets but that's about it. Oh, horse kaka. You're reaching now, David, to continue to spread your warped idealogy. Remember, it sucks. |
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On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 14:34:28 -0700 (PDT), DaveS
wrote: Israel is not a woman. Israel is a country. Anthropomorphosizing inanimate objects is a very common devise useful in self delusion and clouding specious reasoning. Harmless with pets but that's about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How many times ya gonna say that? What? You don't know how to use a computer? I'm bettin' ya can't land an aircraft on an aircraft carrier during the DAY, never mind at night. Now, back you our regular programmed ideology spamming..... |
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:33:43 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote: cheap, yes, but I'll bet he never carped about regular unleaded gas. It wasn't the regular gas, Tom. It was the cheapness of the whole deal. But, I'll never convince you of that, will I? so **** off. |
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~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
Beneath Obama's flowery rhetoric lies a dangerous economic plan that will wreak havoc on the American economy. ... Have you had your head up your ass for the last two months ? The havoc has already been wreaked, dumbass. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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"~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message ... swnip In the coming months — when investors realize that Obama will raise the cap gains rate — there could be a stampede of asset sales as investors rush to take their profits now to avoid Obama's doubling of the tax rates next year. As compared to the current stampede? With the exception of precious metals and possibly a few other tangible assets, what profits? Bob Weinberger On Oct 9, 5:05 pm, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote: History would be the judge of that.... "]The assassination of Obama would be followed by the end of right-wing politics in this country." On Oct 9, 1:55 pm, DaveS wrote: On Oct 9, 11:28 am, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote: " That's right, Barack Obama is goin' down in history as the 44th President of the United States of America. " Ken, Do ya think he will finish out his 1st term, if elected? On Oct 9, 9:06 am, Ken Fortenberry wrote: ~^ beancounter ~^ wrote: Hussein Obama is goin' down...one way or another...imho..... That's right, Barack Obama is goin' down in history as the 44th President of the United States of America. McPalin is running the most despicable, lying, vicious political campaign in modern history and they are quite deliberately stirring up the racists with their hatemongering lies. According to McPalin Obama hates America so much he pals around with domestic terrorists and did you know he wants to peddle porn in our kindergartens. Disgusting **** being tossed out daily in a kitchen sink smear campaign that is as ridiculous as it is repugnant. What on earth *happened* to John McCain ? It's not working. Oh sure, the fundamentalist fruitcakes and the hard core wingnuts revel in the mud and the racists hear a Palin speech and become a wannabe lynch mob but decent Americans aren't buying the McPalin lies and they aren't buying them in droves. Stick a fork in the GOP, they're done. -- Ken Fortenberry- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So are you tee hee implying that someone will kill him? Or that he might go hunting with "Sure shot" Cheney? Stop talking silly. You know I have put up with vaguely threatening right-wing intimidators all my life. Ive pledged myself to a new personal policy. Here it is: Next time someone threatens me physically for my political beliefs, no matter how cutesy they put it, and they are within reach, they are going to get the best smack I can deliver. I have found no one who didn't get much less threatening at the sight of their own blood. I know a lot of people with progressive politics who feel the same way I do. And I know a lot of fat ass-ed, pain-pill abusing, out of shape right-wing BSers who think no one will react violently to their threats, or that no one else in the room might be armed. The assassination of Obama would be followed by the end of right-wing politics in this country. Dave Old Progressive Hot Head- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 14:53:08 -0700 (PDT), Doug Reese
wrote: I notice you don't defend your lies. What, nothing about how cheap he is, I notice. You are his apologist. He threw his medals over the fence in DC, so they could not have meant very much to him. He consorted with known enemies of the U.S., both here and in Paris. The man is a cheap, lying, unpatriotic ******* who does things only for his own good. And, he lost his one and only chance for potus. How's come he didn't even *try* running this time? Defeated little cowardly ******* who hides behind his wife's (wives') apron strings is finished as a politician. Yeah, the stupid Massholes will continue to elect him to the Senate, but he is now a has been who never was. hth d;o) |
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:33:43 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote: cheap, yes, but I'll bet he never carped about regular unleaded gas. Duh, it just dawned on me. You thought I was talking about Tatosian. Right? Hahahaha. Nope. I was talking about the *cheapest* sob in the world, Biden. He gave even *less* to charity than Kerry, if that's possible (isn't 0 - 0= 0?). Biden, our next vp, the cheapest sob in the country. Nice ****, eh, Tom? |
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On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:36:40 -0700, "Bob Weinberger"
wrote: "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message ... swnip In the coming months — when investors realize that Obama will raise the cap gains rate — there could be a stampede of asset sales as investors rush to take their profits now to avoid Obama's doubling of the tax rates next year. As compared to the current stampede? With the exception of precious metals and possibly a few other tangible assets, what profits? Bob Weinberger Bob, trust me on this or don't, but there is ALWAYS honest profit to be made in any market - if someone is losing money, someone is making it. Hell, if it weren't for the "Great Depression," you very well might have never heard of Joe Kennedy and his spawn. And we made money in October '87, which was another supposed "end of the world." In fact, if they listened to me, at least two ROFFians made something on the order of 25% on whatever they invested in the last coupla months. Hell, I'm up about 65% or so on the year. HTH, R |
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Dave LaCourse wrote:
... I was talking about the *cheapest* sob in the world, Biden. He gave even *less* to charity than Kerry, if that's possible (isn't 0 - 0= 0?). Biden, our next vp, the cheapest sob in the country. ... The rabid wingnut GOP is big on charity. Everyone should tithe 10% of their income for the less fortunate, so sayeth the Republicans. What a crock. We should all take care of the least among us and not voluntarily but with actual government funds (read taxes) designated for that purpose. John Kerry and Joe Biden have done more for the poor, the sick and the elderly than you will ever have the capacity to equal. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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"The race of mankind would perish from the earth did they cease to aid
each other" .. Sir Walter Scott Kerry aids no one except himself. He is a money hungry, power hungry cretin. Dave |
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oh...and let me guess....its all Bushes fault, right?.....talk about
dumb asses.... On Oct 9, 6:34*pm, Ken Fortenberry wrote: ~^ beancounter ~^ wrote: Beneath Obama's flowery rhetoric lies a dangerous economic plan that will wreak havoc on the American economy. ... Have you had your head up your ass for the last two months ? The havoc has already been wreaked, dumbass. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:59:26 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: John Kerry and Joe Biden have done more for the poor, the sick and the elderly than you will ever have the capacity to equal. Oh, really. Not with their monies. They pass the tax bills so we have to pay, and pay for them too. Both of them are disgusting representatives of the people. They are dirtier than a dirt road. Dave |
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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message ... On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:33:43 GMT, "Tom Littleton" wrote: cheap, yes, but I'll bet he never carped about regular unleaded gas. It wasn't the regular gas, Tom. It was the cheapness of the whole deal. But, I'll never convince you of that, will I? so **** off. testy, testy, testy! Continue with your usual lies to justify political stupidity. Tom |
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"~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message ... In the coming months — when investors realize that Obama will raise the cap gains rate — there could be a stampede of asset sales as investors rush to take their profits now to avoid Obama's doubling of the tax rates next year. there should be an overabundance of cap gains at the moment, you think? Tom On Oct 9, 5:05 pm, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote: History would be the judge of that.... "]The assassination of Obama would be followed by the end of right-wing politics in this country." On Oct 9, 1:55 pm, DaveS wrote: On Oct 9, 11:28 am, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote: " That's right, Barack Obama is goin' down in history as the 44th President of the United States of America. " Ken, Do ya think he will finish out his 1st term, if elected? On Oct 9, 9:06 am, Ken Fortenberry wrote: ~^ beancounter ~^ wrote: Hussein Obama is goin' down...one way or another...imho..... That's right, Barack Obama is goin' down in history as the 44th President of the United States of America. McPalin is running the most despicable, lying, vicious political campaign in modern history and they are quite deliberately stirring up the racists with their hatemongering lies. According to McPalin Obama hates America so much he pals around with domestic terrorists and did you know he wants to peddle porn in our kindergartens. Disgusting **** being tossed out daily in a kitchen sink smear campaign that is as ridiculous as it is repugnant. What on earth *happened* to John McCain ? It's not working. Oh sure, the fundamentalist fruitcakes and the hard core wingnuts revel in the mud and the racists hear a Palin speech and become a wannabe lynch mob but decent Americans aren't buying the McPalin lies and they aren't buying them in droves. Stick a fork in the GOP, they're done. -- Ken Fortenberry- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So are you tee hee implying that someone will kill him? Or that he might go hunting with "Sure shot" Cheney? Stop talking silly. You know I have put up with vaguely threatening right-wing intimidators all my life. Ive pledged myself to a new personal policy. Here it is: Next time someone threatens me physically for my political beliefs, no matter how cutesy they put it, and they are within reach, they are going to get the best smack I can deliver. I have found no one who didn't get much less threatening at the sight of their own blood. I know a lot of people with progressive politics who feel the same way I do. And I know a lot of fat ass-ed, pain-pill abusing, out of shape right-wing BSers who think no one will react violently to their threats, or that no one else in the room might be armed. The assassination of Obama would be followed by the end of right-wing politics in this country. Dave Old Progressive Hot Head- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message ... Both of them are disgusting representatives of the people. They are dirtier than a dirt road. Dave I'll withhold comment on Kerry, but you are full of **** on Biden. I can think of no more honest, decent man in the US Senate, period. A kind soul and good family man, you have utterly no clue what you are talking about. You see, David, it's one thing to support whomever you wish. When you have to resort to made-up bull**** to justify your selection, it diminishes both your argument, and yourself..... Tom |
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"DaveS" wrote in message ... On Oct 9, 10:37 am, "Calif Bill" wrote: "DaveS" wrote in message ... On Oct 8, 9:28 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: Have you been sleeping for the last 8 years? Your team DOUBLED the total deficit during that time. No one who actually followed current events would be so shameless to have said what you said and expect to be taken seriously. Bill, seriously, your stuff sounds like it came out of some time warp. Dave You are a dum fock. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why don't you just cue up your Ron Paul stuff. And your statement that Obama is a declared socialist is proof positive that you will need to go to re-education camp for a few years when I am made Commissar of ROFF. Dave I guess you have not paid attention to M. Obama's life statements. And Ron Paul would probably be better than either, but I do also do not support him.. |
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Dave LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote: John Kerry and Joe Biden have done more for the poor, the sick and the elderly than you will ever have the capacity to equal. Oh, really. Not with their monies. They pass the tax bills so we have to pay, and pay for them too. Both of them are disgusting representatives of the people. They are dirtier than a dirt road. What a tool. Louie, you disappoint me. The GOP is going to lose and lose big. Deservedly so because conservatism and especially neo-conservatism has proven to be practically, intellectually and morally bankrupt. Do try to be a good and gracious loser if you can. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On Oct 7, 7:08*pm, wrote:
On 7 Oct 2008 23:03:57 GMT, Scott Seidman wrote: wrote in : On 7 Oct 2008 22:37:32 GMT, Scott Seidman wrote: http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...a-na-aviator6- 2008oct06,0,1670799.story?page=1 Maybe for the same reasons Obama's pot and blow usage isn't... Speaking only for myself, I don't think that anyone who hasn't done a few wild things in their youth is fit to be a leader as an adult. *I don't begrudge a person their mistakes, only not learning from them. HTH, R How many plane crashes do you have to have to show you're not learning from your mistakes?? *At least 4, I imagine. How many strikeouts do you have to have to be leading home-run hitter of all time...? *But I see what you're saying...Obama could have a bad day, get all coked up and high on Thai stick, freak out, and start pushing buttons or something, whereas McCain shouldn't be allowed to fly fighter jets anymore...fair enough... We paid for the fighter jets and McCain is lucky that he didn't kill anyone with his joyriding. |
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On Oct 7, 7:40*pm, Scott Seidman wrote:
Cleland was a hero, too, Dave. *Why was it OK to post mortem his PH, but asking why we don't know about McCain's early aviation problems is questioning his heroism? .. because Dave's idea of political discourse is to lie. |
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Oh. I believe you. In fact I made some nice change shorting some issues
before things went into complete freefall. Actualy I look at the present situation as a buying opportunity, but I don't want to move too soon or abruptly. My questions were in response to beancounter's prediction of a the liklihood of a stampede to sell assets in anticipation of an increase in capital gains taxes. The profits I referred to are the type of long term capital gain profits he was talking about. The number of people, who have made long term capital gains in this market and for whom the threat of increased taxes thereon would tip their decision to sell, are not numerous enough to constitute a "stampede" . Bob Weinberger .. wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:36:40 -0700, "Bob Weinberger" wrote: "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message ... swnip In the coming months - when investors realize that Obama will raise the cap gains rate - there could be a stampede of asset sales as investors rush to take their profits now to avoid Obama's doubling of the tax rates next year. As compared to the current stampede? With the exception of precious metals and possibly a few other tangible assets, what profits? Bob Weinberger Bob, trust me on this or don't, but there is ALWAYS honest profit to be made in any market - if someone is losing money, someone is making it. Hell, if it weren't for the "Great Depression," you very well might have never heard of Joe Kennedy and his spawn. And we made money in October '87, which was another supposed "end of the world." In fact, if they listened to me, at least two ROFFians made something on the order of 25% on whatever they invested in the last coupla months. Hell, I'm up about 65% or so on the year. HTH, R ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:27:37 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote: "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message ... In the coming months — when investors realize that Obama will raise the cap gains rate — there could be a stampede of asset sales as investors rush to take their profits now to avoid Obama's doubling of the tax rates next year. there should be an overabundance of cap gains at the moment, you think? Tom There well could be. There have been lots of profit-making opportunities in the last 4-6 weeks. TC, R |
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"Tom Littleton" wrote in message ... "Dave LaCourse" wrote in message ... Both of them are disgusting representatives of the people. They are dirtier than a dirt road. Dave I'll withhold comment on Kerry, but you are full of **** on Biden. I can think of no more honest, decent man in the US Senate, period. A kind soul and good family man, you have utterly no clue what you are talking about. You see, David, it's one thing to support whomever you wish. When you have to resort to made-up bull**** to justify your selection, it diminishes both your argument, and yourself..... Tom Honest? Give me a break. Look up plagiarism. |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... Dave LaCourse wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: John Kerry and Joe Biden have done more for the poor, the sick and the elderly than you will ever have the capacity to equal. Oh, really. Not with their monies. They pass the tax bills so we have to pay, and pay for them too. Both of them are disgusting representatives of the people. They are dirtier than a dirt road. What a tool. Louie, you disappoint me. The GOP is going to lose and lose big. Deservedly so because conservatism and especially neo-conservatism has proven to be practically, intellectually and morally bankrupt. Do try to be a good and gracious loser if you can. -- Ken Fortenberry Obama will probably be the next POTUS. And we are screwed as a country. We are screwed with McCain, but even more so with Obama. |
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:34:51 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote: "Dave LaCourse" wrote in message .. . Both of them are disgusting representatives of the people. They are dirtier than a dirt road. Dave I'll withhold comment on Kerry, but you are full of **** on Biden. I can think of no more honest, decent man in the US Senate, period. A kind soul and good family man, you have utterly no clue what you are talking about. You see, David, it's one thing to support whomever you wish. When you have to resort to made-up bull**** to justify your selection, it diminishes both your argument, and yourself..... Tom Whoa, now, let's not start canonizing St. Joe quite yet. Granted, he is among the better of the lot, but "no more honest, decent man in the US Senate" and a "kind soul?" That's pushing the envelope a bit, at least in the implication. Granted, as Senators go, he's up there, but your description is a bit, well, over the top. I mean, if you'd have said something along the lines of that among a pack of cutthroats and murders, he'd at least give a man a fair chance, I'd agree, but to imply that he is some paragon of all things virtuous...well, please... TC, R |
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On Oct 10, 7:40*am, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 14:53:08 -0700 (PDT), Doug Reese wrote: I notice you don't defend your lies. What, nothing about how cheap he is, I notice. * You posted the lies. I showed them for what they were . . . . . lies. And this is all you can come up with? Pitiful, just pitiful . . . . . . Doug Reese You are his apologist. He threw his medals over the fence in DC, so they could not have meant very much to him. *He consorted with known enemies of the U.S., both here and in Paris. *The man is a cheap, lying, unpatriotic ******* who does things only for his own good. *And, he lost his one and only chance for potus. *How's come he didn't even *try* running this time? Defeated little cowardly ******* who hides behind his wife's (wives') apron strings is finished as a politician. *Yeah, the stupid Massholes will continue to elect him to the Senate, but he is now a has been who never was. * hth d;o) |
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On Oct 10, 11:11*am, "Bob Weinberger" wrote:
Oh. I believe you. In fact I made some nice change shorting some issues before things went into complete freefall. Actualy I look at the present situation as a buying opportunity, but I don't want to move too soon or abruptly. My questions were in response to beancounter's prediction of a the liklihood of a stampede to sell assets in anticipation of an increase in capital gains taxes. *The profits I referred to are the type of long term capital gain profits he was talking about. The number of people, who have made long term capital gains in this market and for whom the threat of increased taxes thereon would tip their decision to sell, are not numerous enough to constitute a "stampede" . Bob Weinberger . wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:36:40 -0700, "Bob Weinberger" wrote: "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message .... swnip In the coming months - when investors realize that Obama will raise the cap gains rate - there could be a stampede of asset sales as investors rush to take their profits now to avoid Obama's doubling of the tax rates next year. As compared to the current stampede? With the exception of precious metals and possibly a few other tangible assets, what profits? Bob Weinberger Bob, trust me on this or don't, but there is ALWAYS honest profit to be made in any market - if someone is losing money, someone is making it. Hell, if it weren't for the "Great Depression," you very well might have never heard of Joe Kennedy and his spawn. *And we made money in October '87, which was another supposed "end of the world." *In fact, if they listened to me, at least two ROFFians made something on the order of 25% on whatever they invested in the last coupla months. *Hell, I'm up about 65% or so on the year. HTH, R ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Especially, if I am not mistaken, because you don't actually owe any cap gains UNTIL you sell. Why folks would choose to dump assets and invoke taxes to avoid invoking taxes is beyond me.... --riverman |
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:28:24 -0700 (PDT), riverman
wrote: On Oct 10, 11:11*am, "Bob Weinberger" wrote: Oh. I believe you. In fact I made some nice change shorting some issues before things went into complete freefall. Actualy I look at the present situation as a buying opportunity, but I don't want to move too soon or abruptly. My questions were in response to beancounter's prediction of a the liklihood of a stampede to sell assets in anticipation of an increase in capital gains taxes. *The profits I referred to are the type of long term capital gain profits he was talking about. The number of people, who have made long term capital gains in this market and for whom the threat of increased taxes thereon would tip their decision to sell, are not numerous enough to constitute a "stampede" . Bob Weinberger . wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:36:40 -0700, "Bob Weinberger" wrote: "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message ... swnip In the coming months - when investors realize that Obama will raise the cap gains rate - there could be a stampede of asset sales as investors rush to take their profits now to avoid Obama's doubling of the tax rates next year. As compared to the current stampede? With the exception of precious metals and possibly a few other tangible assets, what profits? Bob Weinberger Bob, trust me on this or don't, but there is ALWAYS honest profit to be made in any market - if someone is losing money, someone is making it. Hell, if it weren't for the "Great Depression," you very well might have never heard of Joe Kennedy and his spawn. *And we made money in October '87, which was another supposed "end of the world." *In fact, if they listened to me, at least two ROFFians made something on the order of 25% on whatever they invested in the last coupla months. *Hell, I'm up about 65% or so on the year. HTH, R ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Especially, if I am not mistaken, because you don't actually owe any cap gains UNTIL you sell. Why folks would choose to dump assets and invoke taxes to avoid invoking taxes is beyond me.... That doesn't surprise me... IAC, let's assume all assets are long-term (over 1 year) and not worry about net CG - the concept is the same...capital loss can offset capital gain, so if you, for example, bought GM at 50 and can plainly see it ain't getting anywhere near that during the current tax year, the next year, or until you plan to sell it, you can take the hit now and have the capital loss to offset a capital gain. And/or if you are currently in a lower tax bracket but know that you won't be in the next year, that can come into play - 5% versus 15%. That, combined with carrying forward (and back, for a company or against other income, with limits, for an individual ) can make selling at loss, well, less painful. Now, if you believe (or in some cases, know) that your capital gain tax consequences (again, long term, as the short term rates being affected and coming into play is really doubtful given the timeframe involved) are going to increase and you have an asset that you believe will not gain enough to cover the rise in LTCG tax during the period before the rise in LTCG tax, it would make sense to sell and be taxed at 5 or 15% now rather than a higher rate later, esp. if you are wanting to liquidate to cash or other instruments with tax benefits anyway. HTH, R ....and the fact that (prudent) investors have to know this kind of gobbledygook is one of the reasons that the US tax system needs a MAJOR overhaul... --riverman |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message m... Honest? Give me a break. Look up plagiarism. in a 30-plus year career, all anyone can STILL dig up is one plagerized paper, and speech. You should be so honest..... Tom |
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wrote in message ... Granted, as Senators go, he's up there, but your description is a bit, well, over the top. sorry, Rick, but I've been familiar with the man since I worked on his first Senate campaign. I stand by my words. IMO, the only one comparable in terms of personal character is Lieberman. Tom |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in
: Obama will probably be the next POTUS. And we are screwed as a country. We are screwed with McCain, but even more so with Obama. It's going to take big talent to screw us any more than we're screwed right now. -- Scott Reverse name to reply |
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:34:51 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote: I'll withhold comment on Kerry, but you are full of **** on Biden. I can think of no more honest, decent man in the US Senate, period. A kind soul and good family man, you have utterly no clue what you are talking about. You see, David, it's one thing to support whomever you wish. When you have to resort to made-up bull**** to justify your selection, it diminishes both your argument, and yourself..... Tom, check out how much money the man has contributed to charity. It is almost zero. With his wealth, it should be in the tens of thousands. I think you can judge him by what is in his heart, and it sure as hell is not charity. Check it out. It had been on the news a week or so ago. Dave |
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:40:26 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: Dave LaCourse wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: John Kerry and Joe Biden have done more for the poor, the sick and the elderly than you will ever have the capacity to equal. Oh, really. Not with their monies. They pass the tax bills so we have to pay, and pay for them too. Both of them are disgusting representatives of the people. They are dirtier than a dirt road. What a tool. Louie, you disappoint me. The GOP is going to lose and lose big. Deservedly so because conservatism and especially neo-conservatism has proven to be practically, intellectually and morally bankrupt. Do try to be a good and gracious loser if you can. Ken, it is their jobs as members of Congress to watch out for the poor, sick, and elderly. What is in a man's heart says more about him than anything he says or does. Neither Kerry nor Biden has given generously to charity. Both think that government is the answer to *everything*. Without charitable giving by our citizens, thousands of people would suffer. Kerry and Biden do not seem to care about that. If they did, they would have opened their puse strings long before the public found out. If the Republicans lose, so be it. The people and Acorn have spoken. I can live with it and live well. Dave |
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Dave LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote: The GOP is going to lose and lose big. Deservedly so because conservatism and especially neo-conservatism has proven to be practically, intellectually and morally bankrupt. Do try to be a good and gracious loser if you can. Ken, it is their jobs as members of Congress to watch out for the poor, sick, and elderly. What is in a man's heart says more about him than anything he says or does. Neither Kerry nor Biden has given generously to charity. Both think that government is the answer to *everything*. Without charitable giving by our citizens, thousands of people would suffer. That's a bull**** copout, a Republican bull**** copout. Leave the welfare of the poor, sick and elderly to private sector charities. Charities are all fine and good and if you want to donate to them good for you, but those who don't donate to charities are not unkind or heartless. And charitable donations are certainly not some sort of prerequisite for political office. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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