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bones August 28th, 2004 06:05 AM

OT- Good reason to support your local fly shop
 
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 04:19:35 GMT, "B J Conner"
wrote:


"bones" wrote in message
.. .
On 27 Aug 2004 14:32:16 -0700, (nfisherman)
wrote:

"B J Conner" wrote in message

news:W3TWc.178$yP4.175@trnddc08...
Cabelas has been hosting Bush and his gang of thieves in various

locations
for town hall meetings. Here DICKs speach in the "Minnesota small
business".
http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=3196
I had them take me off the mailing list, River City fly shop never

looked
better.

I checked with Cabela's. Their response is below. It appears that
Kerry would get the same courtesy if he requested it.

Thanks for the comments and vote of support. Recently, we've been
taken to task for allowing politicians to visit our stores and we are
somewhat puzzled by that. We look at it as providing a public service,
providing a forum for the exchange of political ideas and information.
Informed voters, we should all hope, make the best decisions.

Officially, Cabela's takes no sides in the presidential election, but
have so far honored requests from the President and Vice President to
visit our stores. To our way of thinking, when the President and Vice
President of the United States ask to appear, well, they are the
leaders of our country and, politics aside, they deserve respect and
consideration.

It has been our policy not to solicit political appearances, from
either side, but we will show appropriate courtesy when approached.

Again, thanks for you comments.

Sincerely,

Joe Arterburn

Corporate Communications Manager
Cabela's
One Cabela Drive
Sidney, NE 69160



Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :-)




Harry Mason
www.Troutflies.com


Mummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm %^)
If you believe that your dummer than a three year old crowbar.
If your a good citizen you should have been able to get into to Cabelas and
hear the President of the United States. These weren't civic afairs they
were campaign events for Bush and his Handler to get elected ( not
re-elected mind you) Cabelas made their store availabe for canidate Bush
and Cheney, not the president or the VP. If you wante to attend and your
a democrat, a Nader supporter, a socialist or a prohibitionst your SOL.
All the attendees are preselected and sign the paper that says there going
to vote for Shrub.


you right, they are all liars.Every last one of them, liars to the
right of me, liars to the left of me, in swift boats, not in swift
boats, under the rocks, behind the trees, they all around me. They
are all ****ing lying. everyone is a ****ing liar... ****ing a. Oh,
and just what the **** is a "good citizen"... never mind, you'd be
lying
Harry Mason
www.Troutflies.com

nfisherman August 28th, 2004 01:26 PM

OT- Good reason to support your local fly shop
 
"B J Conner" wrote in message news:rJTXc.349$UI6.103@trnddc08...
"bones" wrote in message
...
On 27 Aug 2004 14:32:16 -0700, (nfisherman)
wrote:

"B J Conner" wrote in message

news:W3TWc.178$yP4.175@trnddc08...
Cabelas has been hosting Bush and his gang of thieves in various

locations
for town hall meetings. Here DICKs speach in the "Minnesota small
business".
http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=3196
I had them take me off the mailing list, River City fly shop never

looked
better.

I checked with Cabela's. Their response is below. It appears that
Kerry would get the same courtesy if he requested it.

Thanks for the comments and vote of support. Recently, we've been
taken to task for allowing politicians to visit our stores and we are
somewhat puzzled by that. We look at it as providing a public service,
providing a forum for the exchange of political ideas and information.
Informed voters, we should all hope, make the best decisions.

Officially, Cabela's takes no sides in the presidential election, but
have so far honored requests from the President and Vice President to
visit our stores. To our way of thinking, when the President and Vice
President of the United States ask to appear, well, they are the
leaders of our country and, politics aside, they deserve respect and
consideration.

It has been our policy not to solicit political appearances, from
either side, but we will show appropriate courtesy when approached.

Again, thanks for you comments.

Sincerely,

Joe Arterburn

Corporate Communications Manager
Cabela's
One Cabela Drive
Sidney, NE 69160



Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :-)




Harry Mason
www.Troutflies.com


Mummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm %^)
If you believe that your dummer than a three year old crowbar.
If your a good citizen you should have been able to get into to Cabelas and
hear the President of the United States. These weren't civic afairs they
were campaign events for Bush and his Handler to get elected ( not
re-elected mind you) Cabelas made their store availabe for canidate Bush
and Cheney, not the president or the VP. If you wante to attend and your
a democrat, a Nader supporter, a socialist or a prohibitionst your SOL.
All the attendees are preselected and sign the paper that says there going
to vote for Shrub.


Jeepers! So much anger here! I wasn't trying to change your mind. I
just thought it might be interesting to here what Cabela's had to say
about the matter.

I don't think much of Kerry, but I wouldn't be upset of Cabele's
hosted a speech for him. How are we supposed to know how to vote if
we don't hear what these people have to say? Am I supposed to slam
anyone who provides a forum for Kerry? Am I to believe that the
audience is never screened at events for Democrats?

I'll bet you dismissed anyone who criticized the Dixie Chicks for
speaking their minds as right-wing fanatics. You're bitching about
Cabela's just for allowing Bush to speak. What does that make you?

Have a nice day. I'm going to do some fishing!

Mark Bowen August 28th, 2004 02:40 PM

OT- Good reason to support your local fly shop
 

"nfisherman" wrote in message
...

I'll bet you dismissed anyone who criticized the Dixie Chicks for
speaking their minds as right-wing fanatics. You're bitching about
Cabela's just for allowing Bush to speak. What does that make you?

Have a nice day. I'm going to do some fishing!


No Clear Channel Radio--right-wing media giants--have silenced the Dixie Chicks.

Obviously, if big business and industry have a right to prevent the American
electorate from voicing it's opinions, the electorate has a right to boycott big
business and industry. I guess that would make us equals?

Mark


Osama Bin Bush August 29th, 2004 02:16 AM

OT- Good reason to support your local fly shop
 
In article ,
(nfisherman) wrote:

Jeepers! So much anger here! I wasn't trying to change your mind. I
just thought it might be interesting to here what Cabela's had to say
about the matter.

I don't think much of Kerry, but I wouldn't be upset of Cabele's
hosted a speech for him. How are we supposed to know how to vote if
we don't hear what these people have to say? Am I supposed to slam
anyone who provides a forum for Kerry? Am I to believe that the
audience is never screened at events for Democrats?


That is right!! If you do not know who you are going to vote for, you
should listen to what Shrub has to say. Guess what? If you do not know
who you are going to vote for, you are NOT WELCOME at shrubs speeches.
In order to attend a shrub speech, you are required to sign a political
loyalty oath approved by the
Republican national committee. "I, [full name] ... do herby [sic] endorse
George W Bush for reelection of the United States." The form noted: "In
signing the above endorsement you are consenting to use and release of
your name by Bush-Cheney as an endorser of President Bush."


"The Arizona Republic had a political blogger there who said that he
saw at least one woman denied entrance even though she had a paid ticket
because they thought she worked for the AZ Dem party"

--
http://www.majorityreportradio.com/weblog/archives/
Bush%20%20Tribal%20Sovereignty.mp3
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They
never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people,
and neither do we," President george bush (AKA president dumb dumb)

nfisherman August 29th, 2004 05:18 AM

OT- Good reason to support your local fly shop
 
"Mark Bowen" wrote in message ...
"nfisherman" wrote in message
...

I'll bet you dismissed anyone who criticized the Dixie Chicks for
speaking their minds as right-wing fanatics. You're bitching about
Cabela's just for allowing Bush to speak. What does that make you?

Have a nice day. I'm going to do some fishing!


No Clear Channel Radio--right-wing media giants--have silenced the Dixie Chicks.

Obviously, if big business and industry have a right to prevent the American
electorate from voicing it's opinions, the electorate has a right to boycott big
business and industry. I guess that would make us equals?

Mark


Aren't the Dixie Chicks, Springsteen, et. al. on tour at the moment
promoting something called "Vote for Change" or something like that?
So where's the oppression from the "right-wing media giants"?

This thread started because Cabela's allowed Bush/Cheney to speak at
their stores. I don't see how that translates to big business and
industry preventing the electorate from voicing its opinions.

Mark Bowen August 29th, 2004 12:07 PM

OT- Good reason to support your local fly shop
 

"nfisherman" wrote in message
m...
Aren't the Dixie Chicks, Springsteen, et. al. on tour at the moment
promoting something called "Vote for Change" or something like that?


I wouldn't know, really. However, a concert tour doesn't equate with: "... Clear
Channel owns or operates 1,165 radio stations in the United States."
(http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,54036,00.html)

"It's also the nation's largest concert promoter and one of the largest billboard
companies." (http://www.post-gazette.com/tv/20020...ar0623fnp3.asp)

So where's the oppression from the "right-wing media giants"?


Read the related articles in the links provided above and you'll get a CLEAR CHANNEL
picture.

This thread started because Cabela's allowed Bush/Cheney to speak at
their stores.


That's right, and when Cabela's *invites* Kerry/Edwards to hold campaign rallies at
the VERY SAME outlets it provided to the Bush/Cheney campaign, I will withdraw my
complaint.

I don't see how that translates to big business and
industry preventing the electorate from voicing its opinions.


Think monopolization of media outlets!

Seriously, read the post-gazette link, and imagine that one far-left liberal
corporation controlled so much of the nations broadcast media and billboard
advertising.

"FCC commissioners and lawmakers have been particularly concerned about radio
companies like Clear Channel Communications Inc., the biggest radio station owner with
about 1,200, owning all of the stations in a market."
(http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ndustry_fcc_dc)


"'The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit in Philadelphia in June stayed the
FCC rules and ordered the agency to use viewer data to amend the regulations. Without
a detailed viewership assessment, the FCC cannot accurately measure media diversity,
the court said.'

'The court said to get a consistent methodology across markets that takes into account
the audience that uses news," Cooper said. "Making sure control of news production is
not restricted to a handful of media companies is a key goal of the agency's
regulations, and the court recognized that.'"
(http://www.thedeal.com/NASApp/cs/Con...cle/TDStandard
Article&c=TDDArticle&cid=1093301584582)



Mark --who truly hope he attributed correctly--


B J Conner August 30th, 2004 03:02 AM

OT- Good reason to support your local fly shop
 
It use to be in fascist and communist regimes the goverment owned the raido
stations. Under capitalism the raido stations own the goverment.


"Mark Bowen" wrote in message
.. .

"nfisherman" wrote in message
m...
Aren't the Dixie Chicks, Springsteen, et. al. on tour at the moment
promoting something called "Vote for Change" or something like that?


I wouldn't know, really. However, a concert tour doesn't equate with:

"... Clear
Channel owns or operates 1,165 radio stations in the United States."
(http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,54036,00.html)

"It's also the nation's largest concert promoter and one of the largest

billboard
companies." (http://www.post-gazette.com/tv/20020...ar0623fnp3.asp)

So where's the oppression from the "right-wing media giants"?


Read the related articles in the links provided above and you'll get a

CLEAR CHANNEL
picture.

This thread started because Cabela's allowed Bush/Cheney to speak at
their stores.


That's right, and when Cabela's *invites* Kerry/Edwards to hold campaign

rallies at
the VERY SAME outlets it provided to the Bush/Cheney campaign, I will

withdraw my
complaint.

I don't see how that translates to big business and
industry preventing the electorate from voicing its opinions.


Think monopolization of media outlets!

Seriously, read the post-gazette link, and imagine that one far-left

liberal
corporation controlled so much of the nations broadcast media and

billboard
advertising.

"FCC commissioners and lawmakers have been particularly concerned about

radio
companies like Clear Channel Communications Inc., the biggest radio

station owner with
about 1,200, owning all of the stations in a market."
(http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ndustry_fcc_dc)


"'The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit in Philadelphia in June

stayed the
FCC rules and ordered the agency to use viewer data to amend the

regulations. Without
a detailed viewership assessment, the FCC cannot accurately measure media

diversity,
the court said.'

'The court said to get a consistent methodology across markets that takes

into account
the audience that uses news," Cooper said. "Making sure control of news

production is
not restricted to a handful of media companies is a key goal of the

agency's
regulations, and the court recognized that.'"

(http://www.thedeal.com/NASApp/cs/Con...al/TDDArticle/
TDStandard
Article&c=TDDArticle&cid=1093301584582)



Mark --who truly hope he attributed correctly--




bones August 30th, 2004 04:03 AM

OT- Good reason to support your local fly shop
 
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 02:02:27 GMT, "B J Conner"
wrote:

It use to be in fascist and communist regimes the goverment owned the raido
stations. Under capitalism the raido stations own the goverment.



NPR?


Harry Mason
www.Troutflies.com

B J Conner August 30th, 2004 04:08 AM

OT- Good reason to support your local fly shop
 

"bones" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 02:02:27 GMT, "B J Conner"
wrote:

It use to be in fascist and communist regimes the goverment owned the

raido
stations. Under capitalism the raido stations own the goverment.



NPR?


Harry Mason
www.Troutflies.com


CSM



bones August 30th, 2004 05:19 AM

OT- Good reason to support your local fly shop
 
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 03:08:06 GMT, "B J Conner"
wrote:


"bones" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 02:02:27 GMT, "B J Conner"
wrote:

It use to be in fascist and communist regimes the goverment owned the

raido
stations. Under capitalism the raido stations own the goverment.



NPR?


Harry Mason
www.Troutflies.com


CSM


Harry Mason
www.Troutflies.com


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