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"William Claspy" wrote in message
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On 11/1/04 7:24 PM, in article
...as Wolfgang will attest, I
just *like* firing up my trusty Svea.

To be sure. And as anyone but an abject fool will attest, ANY stove
upon which somebody else takes the time to brew coffee for you is a
good one. :)

I sleep in a down bag (splurged for a gorgeous and astoundingly
light weight
bag from Feathered Friends) so I use a full length closed cell foam
pad.

I haven't looked closely for some years, but I suspect down is still
the best insulator available. Unfortunately, it is next to worthless
when it gets wet.....or even damp. Some of us, including your humble
narrator, transpire a lot of moisture; I have never managed to get
through a night in a down bag (and I used a good North Face model for
about 15 years) without the insulation getting moist and matted. In
short, I virtually always froze in a down bag. Never again. To each
his or her own.

Wolfgang

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"William Claspy" wrote in message
...
On 11/1/04 7:24 PM, in article
...as Wolfgang will attest, I
just *like* firing up my trusty Svea.

To be sure. And as anyone but an abject fool will attest, ANY stove
upon which somebody else takes the time to brew coffee for you is a
good one. :)

I sleep in a down bag (splurged for a gorgeous and astoundingly
light weight
bag from Feathered Friends) so I use a full length closed cell foam
pad.

I haven't looked closely for some years, but I suspect down is still
the best insulator available. Unfortunately, it is next to worthless
when it gets wet.....or even damp. Some of us, including your humble
narrator, transpire a lot of moisture; I have never managed to get
through a night in a down bag (and I used a good North Face model for
about 15 years) without the insulation getting moist and matted. In
short, I virtually always froze in a down bag. Never again. To each
his or her own.

Wolfgang

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"bruiser" wrote in message
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For car camping:

1. Coleman gas stove and lantern.

2. Big fat air mattress and a float tube pump

3. Four man tent for one guy

4. Slumberjack Big Timber sleeping bag!

I may not have Sage and Abel, but Coleman and Slumberjack, especially
Slumberjack, have kept me comfortable and warm.

Gotta agree with Bruce. When car camping, I use a 10' by 10' tent, only
because it's big enough for the Coleman king size air mattress; I find these
air mattresses as comfortable as the Posturepeodic, and they are a lot
warmer than cots.

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"bruiser" wrote in message
...
For car camping:

1. Coleman gas stove and lantern.

2. Big fat air mattress and a float tube pump

3. Four man tent for one guy

4. Slumberjack Big Timber sleeping bag!

I may not have Sage and Abel, but Coleman and Slumberjack, especially
Slumberjack, have kept me comfortable and warm.

Gotta agree with Bruce. When car camping, I use a 10' by 10' tent, only
because it's big enough for the Coleman king size air mattress; I find these
air mattresses as comfortable as the Posturepeodic, and they are a lot
warmer than cots.

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"riverman" wrote

Hey Larry:
I went through a similar metamorphosis. Spent my 20s doing the 45-pound
Kelty Backpack thing, with ensolite, MSR (Svea actually, back then),

That just caused one of those little flashbacks that seem to serve as memory
these days.

A cheap Svea look-a-like in a mountaint tent at about 11,500 feet, trying to
melt snow for some freeze dried dinner. Suddenly the stove, in it's cook
hole in the tent floor, started to have flames shooting out around the
bottom. A brief effort to turn it off failed, so I flung it out onto the
snow using the little key on a chain dealie, where it exploded in a rather
impressive fire ball. I replaced it with one of the very first models of
MSR. Later I got one of the first MSR metal handled ice axes, it's still
hanging out in the barn, the last item besides a few carabiners, put to
other uses, that I have from that era in my outdoors life. I noticed some
MSR equipment in the Patagonia outlet in Dillon, Mt. so I guess they are
still in business ...

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"riverman" wrote

Hey Larry:
I went through a similar metamorphosis. Spent my 20s doing the 45-pound
Kelty Backpack thing, with ensolite, MSR (Svea actually, back then),

That just caused one of those little flashbacks that seem to serve as memory
these days.

A cheap Svea look-a-like in a mountaint tent at about 11,500 feet, trying to
melt snow for some freeze dried dinner. Suddenly the stove, in it's cook
hole in the tent floor, started to have flames shooting out around the
bottom. A brief effort to turn it off failed, so I flung it out onto the
snow using the little key on a chain dealie, where it exploded in a rather
impressive fire ball. I replaced it with one of the very first models of
MSR. Later I got one of the first MSR metal handled ice axes, it's still
hanging out in the barn, the last item besides a few carabiners, put to
other uses, that I have from that era in my outdoors life. I noticed some
MSR equipment in the Patagonia outlet in Dillon, Mt. so I guess they are
still in business ...

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Charlie Wilson wrote:
"bruiser" wrote in message
...

For car camping:

1. Coleman gas stove and lantern.

2. Big fat air mattress and a float tube pump

3. Four man tent for one guy

4. Slumberjack Big Timber sleeping bag!

I may not have Sage and Abel, but Coleman and Slumberjack, especially
Slumberjack, have kept me comfortable and warm.


Gotta agree with Bruce. When car camping, I use a 10' by 10' tent, only
because it's big enough for the Coleman king size air mattress; I find these
air mattresses as comfortable as the Posturepeodic, and they are a lot
warmer than cots.

I use a pop-up Northstar cab-over camper on my F150, with a comfortable
double mattress, ample sleeping room for another person, a furnace, a
refrigerator, a sink, a water heater, an outdoor shower (which I haven't
yet used), a two-burner stovetop, and lots of storage space. It's
insanely great compared to tent camping, but watch out for your rod,
leaning against the camper, before you crank down the top. :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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Charlie Wilson wrote:
"bruiser" wrote in message
...

For car camping:

1. Coleman gas stove and lantern.

2. Big fat air mattress and a float tube pump

3. Four man tent for one guy

4. Slumberjack Big Timber sleeping bag!

I may not have Sage and Abel, but Coleman and Slumberjack, especially
Slumberjack, have kept me comfortable and warm.


Gotta agree with Bruce. When car camping, I use a 10' by 10' tent, only
because it's big enough for the Coleman king size air mattress; I find these
air mattresses as comfortable as the Posturepeodic, and they are a lot
warmer than cots.

I use a pop-up Northstar cab-over camper on my F150, with a comfortable
double mattress, ample sleeping room for another person, a furnace, a
refrigerator, a sink, a water heater, an outdoor shower (which I haven't
yet used), a two-burner stovetop, and lots of storage space. It's
insanely great compared to tent camping, but watch out for your rod,
leaning against the camper, before you crank down the top. :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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"Larry L" wrote in message
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Later I got one of the first MSR metal handled ice axes, it's still
hanging out in the barn, the last item besides a few carabiners, put to
other uses, that I have from that era in my outdoors life.

Yep, I think of all the specialized camping gear that morphed into and was
assimilated into all that specialized river running gear....now my
carabiners are a belt-loop keychain, or something to hang my bookbag on the
wall with. Most of my other gear has gotten scattered with the years. Was a
time that someone could say "wanna do a river trip" and I would only have to
throw some fresh underwear into my river duffel, and I'd be ready.

The wheel keeps on turning....

--riverman
(who has is back out today, and feel exceptionally old....)

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"Larry L" wrote in message
...
Later I got one of the first MSR metal handled ice axes, it's still
hanging out in the barn, the last item besides a few carabiners, put to
other uses, that I have from that era in my outdoors life.

Yep, I think of all the specialized camping gear that morphed into and was
assimilated into all that specialized river running gear....now my
carabiners are a belt-loop keychain, or something to hang my bookbag on the
wall with. Most of my other gear has gotten scattered with the years. Was a
time that someone could say "wanna do a river trip" and I would only have to
throw some fresh underwear into my river duffel, and I'd be ready.

The wheel keeps on turning....

--riverman
(who has is back out today, and feel exceptionally old....)