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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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Bones wrote:

On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 16:33:36 +0100, "riverman"
wrote:


No, I think if you were some hick farmer from the South or Midwest, you'd
have no idea of what just happened, but you'd be overjoyed that you were
now personally safe from having a DC10 crash into your local WalMart,


This is the same mindset that prompted Kerry to gush: "Can I get me a
hunt'n license here?" and precisely why you are befuddled at the
outcome. You are no more than an elitist bigot who is living under the
self constructed illusion that you are some how better , more
intelligent, more "progressive" than the 60 million unwashed trash
who saw through your candidate rather thin veil of creditability. If
Kerry is the best you have then you have the problem, not the "hicks"
in the Heartland.

Myron's right. This election was largely decided by a huge turnout
of rubes, boobs, hicks and bible-thumping morons, otherwise known
as "social conservatives." Not to mention a whole lot of Catholics
who saw fit to listen to a bunch of pucker-faced old hypocrites
whose shriveled little johnsons are covered in KY jelly, semen and
the blood and feces of freshly sodomized young children.

Woo hoo, MORAL VALUES I tells ya !!



(sideways glance)
--riverman

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"Chuck Wise" wrote in message
...
I've noticed more than a whiff of contempt in this thread for those of
us in the "heartland". So I'd also like to point this out: we don't
all live in trailers and drink moonshine, and some of us even have
indoor plumbing; hell, some of us even hate NASCAR and the rodeo.


Well, you're getting none of that comtempt from me, Chuck. I don't mind
trailers or moonshine, I like the Heartland, and personally prefer places
without indoor plumbing. I enjoy a good round track as much as the next guy,
and think cowgirls are hot. I would never write someone off because they
lived in the countryside.

But if you're talking about someone who felt that this election boiled down
to protecting their own personal self from some sort of imminent terrorist
attack, at the expense of all the other issues, and voted accordingly, then
THAT'S what I'm talking about. I cannot believe that anyone supported Bush
for any other reason, because the evidence just isn't there that his fiscal,
environmental, moral or intellectual policies are sound.

I am damn proud to be from the boondocks, because I feel that the rural
folks absolutely have the better sense of values in a lot of ways My heart
lies with the country folk. But they sure got collectively fooled this time.

--riverman

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"Chuck Wise" wrote in message
...
I've noticed more than a whiff of contempt in this thread for those of
us in the "heartland". So I'd also like to point this out: we don't
all live in trailers and drink moonshine, and some of us even have
indoor plumbing; hell, some of us even hate NASCAR and the rodeo.


Well, you're getting none of that comtempt from me, Chuck. I don't mind
trailers or moonshine, I like the Heartland, and personally prefer places
without indoor plumbing. I enjoy a good round track as much as the next guy,
and think cowgirls are hot. I would never write someone off because they
lived in the countryside.

But if you're talking about someone who felt that this election boiled down
to protecting their own personal self from some sort of imminent terrorist
attack, at the expense of all the other issues, and voted accordingly, then
THAT'S what I'm talking about. I cannot believe that anyone supported Bush
for any other reason, because the evidence just isn't there that his fiscal,
environmental, moral or intellectual policies are sound.

I am damn proud to be from the boondocks, because I feel that the rural
folks absolutely have the better sense of values in a lot of ways My heart
lies with the country folk. But they sure got collectively fooled this time.

--riverman

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"Bones" wrote in message that was my point as
well,

*** If Kerry is the best you have then you have the problem, not the
"hicks"in the Heartland.***


No, I think we all have the problem now.

--riverman

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"Bones" wrote in message that was my point as
well,

*** If Kerry is the best you have then you have the problem, not the
"hicks"in the Heartland.***


No, I think we all have the problem now.

--riverman

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Tim J. wrote:
riverman wrote:

George Cleveland wrote...

Dave LaCourse wrote:

GC writes:


Whaddya think? A Jeb and Hillary match up?

Nah! A Rudy and Hillary makes more sense.


Do you think that the conservative Republicans will vote for him in
the primaries.

I suspect that they'll do whatever God and their President tell them
to do.


In your present condescention mode, you *would* suspect that. Here's
what you *should* be considering, IMHO: The Dems offered no viable
alternative to Bush (which was all this election was about). By all
rights, someone with some uniting capabilities or a little charisma
should have been able to defeat Bush, and clearly would have done so.
Kerry offered neither quality. Ballots could have had two boxes in this
election, FOR BUSH and AGAINST BUSH, because Kerry brought nothing to
the table to vote FOR.
One this is correct....Kerry was a ****-poor offering for the Democrats
to vote on. And I just saw where JK called the Prez to concede. I didn't
like either choice the parties offered. While Kerry was an out-of-touch
Easterner, I couldn't make myself vote for someone who says "Nukular". I
heard the election was between the Incompetent and the Incoherent. That
fits my take exactly. I see where the Bible Belt voted their religion
and not common sense. Most of the rural Republicans let their leaders in
Washington lead them around by the nose. Not a thinking man's party by
any stretch of the imagination. Lemmings all. But then you have the Dems
who want the government to pay for every damn thing. So..... this time I
voted my pocket book. It didn't matter which way I voted because Idaho
is one of if not THE most republican state - anything but a far-right
vote is discounted. I voted to go against the discontinuance of overtime
at work, against the deficit growing so damn big - pork included - and
the fact that my wife takes 15 necessary meds - costing us in excess of
300.00 w/ copay. I feel the republicans are in bed with the
pharmaceuticals (and other BIG businesses) and not watching out for the
middle class at all. I am a hunter and avid fly fisherman. I want the
government out of my life. And lower taxes - all right wing agendas, but
at the same time, I expect near pristine forests, fishing waters and air
- left wing agendas.

So now we have four more years of a little self-centered squat bodied
dipstick in the White House. So be it - at least time King George was
elected and not anointed. I don't think America will go to hell in a
hand basket but we sure are going to lose a lot more men and women in
the Middle East before it is all over.

Just My .02 cents worth.

Philski

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"Chuck Wise" wrote in message
...
...those of us in the "heartland"...don't
all live in trailers and drink moonshine,

Yes, we do.

and some of us even have
indoor plumbing;

No, we don't

hell, some of us even hate NASCAR and the rodeo.

No, we don't.

Wolfgang
well, what the hell, with all the truth flying around here i thought i
might just as well get some in too.

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On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 11:45:04 -0600, "Wolfgang"
wrote:


"Chuck Wise" wrote in message
.. .
...those of us in the "heartland"...don't
all live in trailers and drink moonshine,

Yes, we do.


Poseur.

One thing's for DAMN certain: ain't no self-respecting rube in the
heartland would go by the name "Wolfgang"!

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"philski" wrote in message
...

...my wife takes 15 necessary meds - costing us in excess of
300.00 w/ copay.

Hell, that ain't so bad. I know people who pay more than that EVERY
YEAR!

I want the
government out of my life.

So, you've notified your local fire department that they are never,
under ANY circumstances, to enter onto your property?

Just My .02 cents worth.

Where shall we send the change?

Wolfgang

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"philski" wrote in message
...

...my wife takes 15 necessary meds - costing us in excess of
300.00 w/ copay.

Hell, that ain't so bad. I know people who pay more than that EVERY
YEAR!

I want the
government out of my life.

So, you've notified your local fire department that they are never,
under ANY circumstances, to enter onto your property?

Just My .02 cents worth.

Where shall we send the change?

Wolfgang