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Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard November 7th, 2004 10:10 PM

Topwaters in Tournaments(correction again)
 
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 15:30:36 -0500, "alwaysfishking"
sent into the ether:

http://www.westernbass.tv/videopage.php?0000128



I agree with Randy, thanks for sharing and what frog was that??? :}

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Steve & Chris Clark November 7th, 2004 11:03 PM

Topwaters in Tournaments
 
always, not to sound defensive here but I almost always have a minus one on
one rod. great lure just before the weeds start to go horizontal. And I
always take a fish or two with it and always wonder if that was the best use
of time. I too have caught a tremendous amount of biggies on top but I
always drive home with that nagging feeling. At night.... you are
absolutely correct!!!! Without a doubt in my opinion.
--
Steve


"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...
I would assume you are only talking day tourneys Warren as night tourneys
are a great place to throw top waters.

I have had so many topwater catchs this year, it probably adds up to all
topwater catchs I have had. I started using the speedworm this year,

mostly
as a topwater bait and it has really produced. Remember Dave won the
Southern Classic fishing that worm the same way. Fish have hit it in deep
water, cold water warm water, near cover in open water etc etc. I also
started using the zoom horny toads after you posted on them and Ronnie
followed up stating they had speedworm legs.. Ask a few others on the

group
if they wouldn't just keep one tied on now and throw it at just about any
given time.. I have lost quite a few fish on topwaters this year. I have
also caught some really nice fish that I think I would never have caught

if
I had not presented the topwater bait. I will always have a topwater or

two
tied on, no matter what time of day. I think it's a matter of confidence.
I'll take off ten toothy critters for one nice tourney bass.

"Steve & Chris Clark" wrote in message
...
In a tournament where there are musky in the lake, NEVER, bass, from my
experience, are quite shy about there willingness to take topwaters

where
the El Jumbino live. Where there are pike, forget it! You will be

wasting
time taking pike off your hooks. Depends on the time of season and
water temps. This time of year? If it was to cloud over quickly and you
think the weather pattern is about to change and you think they might

move
up to feed, every third cast might be a good idea? If bass are at the

top
of the foodchain then I might throw one, but on second thought when I am
driving home after the tournament I would have to ask myself, wot were

ya
thinkin' man? Then I would say, well, you did have those four six

pounders
after all, didn't ya? Then I would say, well I tried everything.
When you're on the winners stand tell 'em you got them in the thirty

foot
with a chug-bug ;-) What is it about top waters that get us to use

them,
they sometimes work. No guts no glory! (agreement big time with you

here
Warren) One tournament, last year on a day two, while only in lunker
hopes,
I spent an hour using a top water because I saw a bass jump a couple of
times in a good spot where I know big ones live.
If you hate to lose fish, like me, then I would use a smaller, slow
sinking
soft plastic like a salty, garlic, pheromoned up, Dupont packed, light
flashing, scent enhanced, rattling, red bellied, metal flaked, with a
forkated tail, on ten pound floro carb, double wacky rigged fluke/senco
near
some cover or structure. Oh and don't forget to sharpen your hooks and
fish
it slow!
--
Steve ;-)




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Steve & Chris Clark November 7th, 2004 11:03 PM

Topwaters in Tournaments
 
always, not to sound defensive here but I almost always have a minus one on
one rod. great lure just before the weeds start to go horizontal. And I
always take a fish or two with it and always wonder if that was the best use
of time. I too have caught a tremendous amount of biggies on top but I
always drive home with that nagging feeling. At night.... you are
absolutely correct!!!! Without a doubt in my opinion.
--
Steve


"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...
I would assume you are only talking day tourneys Warren as night tourneys
are a great place to throw top waters.

I have had so many topwater catchs this year, it probably adds up to all
topwater catchs I have had. I started using the speedworm this year,

mostly
as a topwater bait and it has really produced. Remember Dave won the
Southern Classic fishing that worm the same way. Fish have hit it in deep
water, cold water warm water, near cover in open water etc etc. I also
started using the zoom horny toads after you posted on them and Ronnie
followed up stating they had speedworm legs.. Ask a few others on the

group
if they wouldn't just keep one tied on now and throw it at just about any
given time.. I have lost quite a few fish on topwaters this year. I have
also caught some really nice fish that I think I would never have caught

if
I had not presented the topwater bait. I will always have a topwater or

two
tied on, no matter what time of day. I think it's a matter of confidence.
I'll take off ten toothy critters for one nice tourney bass.

"Steve & Chris Clark" wrote in message
...
In a tournament where there are musky in the lake, NEVER, bass, from my
experience, are quite shy about there willingness to take topwaters

where
the El Jumbino live. Where there are pike, forget it! You will be

wasting
time taking pike off your hooks. Depends on the time of season and
water temps. This time of year? If it was to cloud over quickly and you
think the weather pattern is about to change and you think they might

move
up to feed, every third cast might be a good idea? If bass are at the

top
of the foodchain then I might throw one, but on second thought when I am
driving home after the tournament I would have to ask myself, wot were

ya
thinkin' man? Then I would say, well, you did have those four six

pounders
after all, didn't ya? Then I would say, well I tried everything.
When you're on the winners stand tell 'em you got them in the thirty

foot
with a chug-bug ;-) What is it about top waters that get us to use

them,
they sometimes work. No guts no glory! (agreement big time with you

here
Warren) One tournament, last year on a day two, while only in lunker
hopes,
I spent an hour using a top water because I saw a bass jump a couple of
times in a good spot where I know big ones live.
If you hate to lose fish, like me, then I would use a smaller, slow
sinking
soft plastic like a salty, garlic, pheromoned up, Dupont packed, light
flashing, scent enhanced, rattling, red bellied, metal flaked, with a
forkated tail, on ten pound floro carb, double wacky rigged fluke/senco
near
some cover or structure. Oh and don't forget to sharpen your hooks and
fish
it slow!
--
Steve ;-)




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Steve & Chris Clark November 7th, 2004 11:03 PM

Topwaters in Tournaments
 
always, not to sound defensive here but I almost always have a minus one on
one rod. great lure just before the weeds start to go horizontal. And I
always take a fish or two with it and always wonder if that was the best use
of time. I too have caught a tremendous amount of biggies on top but I
always drive home with that nagging feeling. At night.... you are
absolutely correct!!!! Without a doubt in my opinion.
--
Steve


"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...
I would assume you are only talking day tourneys Warren as night tourneys
are a great place to throw top waters.

I have had so many topwater catchs this year, it probably adds up to all
topwater catchs I have had. I started using the speedworm this year,

mostly
as a topwater bait and it has really produced. Remember Dave won the
Southern Classic fishing that worm the same way. Fish have hit it in deep
water, cold water warm water, near cover in open water etc etc. I also
started using the zoom horny toads after you posted on them and Ronnie
followed up stating they had speedworm legs.. Ask a few others on the

group
if they wouldn't just keep one tied on now and throw it at just about any
given time.. I have lost quite a few fish on topwaters this year. I have
also caught some really nice fish that I think I would never have caught

if
I had not presented the topwater bait. I will always have a topwater or

two
tied on, no matter what time of day. I think it's a matter of confidence.
I'll take off ten toothy critters for one nice tourney bass.

"Steve & Chris Clark" wrote in message
...
In a tournament where there are musky in the lake, NEVER, bass, from my
experience, are quite shy about there willingness to take topwaters

where
the El Jumbino live. Where there are pike, forget it! You will be

wasting
time taking pike off your hooks. Depends on the time of season and
water temps. This time of year? If it was to cloud over quickly and you
think the weather pattern is about to change and you think they might

move
up to feed, every third cast might be a good idea? If bass are at the

top
of the foodchain then I might throw one, but on second thought when I am
driving home after the tournament I would have to ask myself, wot were

ya
thinkin' man? Then I would say, well, you did have those four six

pounders
after all, didn't ya? Then I would say, well I tried everything.
When you're on the winners stand tell 'em you got them in the thirty

foot
with a chug-bug ;-) What is it about top waters that get us to use

them,
they sometimes work. No guts no glory! (agreement big time with you

here
Warren) One tournament, last year on a day two, while only in lunker
hopes,
I spent an hour using a top water because I saw a bass jump a couple of
times in a good spot where I know big ones live.
If you hate to lose fish, like me, then I would use a smaller, slow
sinking
soft plastic like a salty, garlic, pheromoned up, Dupont packed, light
flashing, scent enhanced, rattling, red bellied, metal flaked, with a
forkated tail, on ten pound floro carb, double wacky rigged fluke/senco
near
some cover or structure. Oh and don't forget to sharpen your hooks and
fish
it slow!
--
Steve ;-)




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Bob La Londe November 7th, 2004 11:44 PM

Topwaters in Tournaments
 
Some of the recent big fisha round here have come on topwater. I usually
throw topwater from launch until they stop hiting topwater in the mornings.
I have done two things that have drastically improved my hook ups and
putting them int he boat on topwater. I switched over to Excalibor rotating
hooks on almost all of my topwater baits, and I switched to a medium light
rod. When they lunge the rod gives instead of the fish lips.

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"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Do you guys throw topwater lures in tournaments? I try my darndest to

avoid
them, and only do it when I'm convinced nothing else will work. Nothing
frustrates me more during competition than seeing a fish try to eat my

lure
& missing, or worse yet "dropping" a fish. My feeling is that the
encounter/boated fish ratio is just far too weak with topwater baits.

Your feelings?

--
Warren

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Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
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Bob La Londe November 7th, 2004 11:44 PM

Topwaters in Tournaments
 
Some of the recent big fisha round here have come on topwater. I usually
throw topwater from launch until they stop hiting topwater in the mornings.
I have done two things that have drastically improved my hook ups and
putting them int he boat on topwater. I switched over to Excalibor rotating
hooks on almost all of my topwater baits, and I switched to a medium light
rod. When they lunge the rod gives instead of the fish lips.

--
** FREE Fishing Lures
** Weekly drawing
** Public Fishing and Boating Forums
** www.YumaBassMan.com


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Do you guys throw topwater lures in tournaments? I try my darndest to

avoid
them, and only do it when I'm convinced nothing else will work. Nothing
frustrates me more during competition than seeing a fish try to eat my

lure
& missing, or worse yet "dropping" a fish. My feeling is that the
encounter/boated fish ratio is just far too weak with topwater baits.

Your feelings?

--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions





Andrew Kidd November 8th, 2004 12:35 AM

Topwaters in Tournaments
 
"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Do you guys throw topwater lures in tournaments? I try my darndest to
avoid them, and only do it when I'm convinced nothing else will work.
Nothing frustrates me more during competition than seeing a fish try to
eat my lure & missing, or worse yet "dropping" a fish. My feeling is that
the encounter/boated fish ratio is just far too weak with topwater baits.

Your feelings?



One of my single greatest tournament wins came throwing a Pop-R in a
tourney. 10 keepers between my partner and I - no lost fish. Over 20lbs,
in Indiana no less... Second place was 13lbs, third was 2lbs. Guess no one
else was throwing topwater...

I would do it again, if the fish were on a topwater bite... I have never
noticed a significant drop in boated fish because of topwaters. You just
gotta try and keep em from jumping!
--
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Andrew Kidd November 8th, 2004 12:35 AM

Topwaters in Tournaments
 
"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Do you guys throw topwater lures in tournaments? I try my darndest to
avoid them, and only do it when I'm convinced nothing else will work.
Nothing frustrates me more during competition than seeing a fish try to
eat my lure & missing, or worse yet "dropping" a fish. My feeling is that
the encounter/boated fish ratio is just far too weak with topwater baits.

Your feelings?



One of my single greatest tournament wins came throwing a Pop-R in a
tourney. 10 keepers between my partner and I - no lost fish. Over 20lbs,
in Indiana no less... Second place was 13lbs, third was 2lbs. Guess no one
else was throwing topwater...

I would do it again, if the fish were on a topwater bite... I have never
noticed a significant drop in boated fish because of topwaters. You just
gotta try and keep em from jumping!
--
Andrew Kidd
http://www.amiasoft.com/ - Software for the rest of us!
http://www.rofb.net/ - ROFB Newsgroup Home



alwaysfishking November 8th, 2004 01:21 AM

Topwaters in Tournaments(correction again)
 
Not much but all fishing is worth watching (unless the Steelers are on GO
STEELERS).. but those legs seemed really long couldn't make out the color
but it definetly was not a horny toad,,legs were way to long and it had some
really fantastic action and noise. I would love to try some. I liked the way
he fished it with the popping action. I'd love to see one


"John Kerr" wrote in message
...

Topwaters in Tournaments(correction again)

Group: rec.outdoors.fishing.bass Date: Sun, Nov 7, 2004, 3:30pm (CST+1)
From: (alwaysfishking)
Thanks for sharing John,,what kind of frog was that. the legs look
really, really long
=======
John hand paints the frogs...brown/yellow, with a green stomache, and
chartreuse legs, and often uses two trailer hooks out the back leg
ports.
I havn't seen the video...did it have anything worth viewing on it. I
can't load the program on ths thing. :)
JK
=======

"John Kerr" wrote in message
...
I'm really a "dunce" at cut and paste stuff! Actually, I'm still
extrememly fascinated by the radio...so have a long way to go in the
electronc age :). Not even sure if this right. Sorry......
http://www.westernbass.tv/videopage.php?0000128




alwaysfishking November 8th, 2004 01:21 AM

Topwaters in Tournaments(correction again)
 
Not much but all fishing is worth watching (unless the Steelers are on GO
STEELERS).. but those legs seemed really long couldn't make out the color
but it definetly was not a horny toad,,legs were way to long and it had some
really fantastic action and noise. I would love to try some. I liked the way
he fished it with the popping action. I'd love to see one


"John Kerr" wrote in message
...

Topwaters in Tournaments(correction again)

Group: rec.outdoors.fishing.bass Date: Sun, Nov 7, 2004, 3:30pm (CST+1)
From: (alwaysfishking)
Thanks for sharing John,,what kind of frog was that. the legs look
really, really long
=======
John hand paints the frogs...brown/yellow, with a green stomache, and
chartreuse legs, and often uses two trailer hooks out the back leg
ports.
I havn't seen the video...did it have anything worth viewing on it. I
can't load the program on ths thing. :)
JK
=======

"John Kerr" wrote in message
...
I'm really a "dunce" at cut and paste stuff! Actually, I'm still
extrememly fascinated by the radio...so have a long way to go in the
electronc age :). Not even sure if this right. Sorry......
http://www.westernbass.tv/videopage.php?0000128





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