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Wolfgang June 7th, 2006 04:03 PM

Fly fishing from a canoe?
 

Tim J. wrote:
rw wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Kick boats are clumsy, graceless, utilitarian craft,
canoes are expressions of timeless elegance and beauty.


I doubt very much that you've ever used a kick boat. Form follows
function. Canoes and kayaks suck for fly fishing.


Gawd, I love this place!


Amen. These boys NEVER get tired of their own fatuous
horse****......and who could EVER tire of that? :)

Wolfgang
who can only try to imagine what the occasional moment of
self-realization must be like for them.


Wolfgang June 7th, 2006 04:23 PM

Fly fishing from a canoe?
 

William Claspy wrote:
On 6/6/06 1:59 PM, in article , "Pete
Knox" wrote:

Will it be harder as a beginner to learn to cast from the boat?


One thing I did not address in my previous post. I am no casting or
casting-teaching expert, but I would think that you should practice casting
while standing before doing so from the boat. Get the dynamics of fly line
casting down first (and if you've looked at previous ROFF posts on this
topic, look for local fly shop/club/class settings where you can get
instruction), then go out on the canoe....


Interestingly (I think) I've noticed over the course of many outings
with others that a canoe ain't a half bad rough gauge of basic casting
skills. While a canoe seat does allow a certain amount of shifting and
twisting, one invariably has to do some contorted casting to one side
or the other. This is very difficult foor those who haven't mastered
the basics. Even more telling, poor casters always rock the
boat.....good'ns don't.

Wolfgang
well, except maybe when trying to eke out just one more yard. :)


Wolfgang June 7th, 2006 04:28 PM

Fly fishing from a canoe?
 

Padishar Creel wrote:

...I do have a wonderful pontoon boat immune to
roll over....


A very dangerous belief. Nothing......NOTHING!......is immune to
rolling over.

Wolfgang


William Claspy June 7th, 2006 04:34 PM

Fly fishing from a canoe?
 
On 6/7/06 11:23 AM, in article
, "Wolfgang"
wrote:

While a canoe seat does allow a certain amount of shifting and
twisting, one invariably has to do some contorted casting to one side
or the other.


One other thing I didn't mention in relation to canoes, but thought of after
the canoe experts in the crowd began talking about canoeing solo and sitting
on the fore seat facing aft, etc. This doesn't really have much to do with
casting a fly from a canoe, but about canoe paddling in general.

I find myself nearly always, whether alone or not, kneeling on the floor of
the canoe. I just find it a more stable, more comfortable, and more
paddling-efficient way to sit. It also means that if I am solo, I can plant
myself wherever in the middle of the canoe that provides me with the best
paddling, sitting, and balance position.

But maybe that's just me.

When it's time to cast, however, I frequently scoot myself up into the seat.
And, sad to say, more often than not cause a little side-to-side rocking o'
the boat.

No expert,
Bill


Tom Nakashima June 7th, 2006 04:47 PM

Fly fishing from a canoe?
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
oups.com...

Interestingly (I think) I've noticed over the course of many outings
with others that a canoe ain't a half bad rough gauge of basic casting
skills. While a canoe seat does allow a certain amount of shifting and
twisting, one invariably has to do some contorted casting to one side
or the other. This is very difficult foor those who haven't mastered
the basics. Even more telling, poor casters always rock the
boat.....good'ns don't.

Wolfgang
well, except maybe when trying to eke out just one more yard. :)


Or you can maneuver the canoe one yard closer.
-tom



rw June 7th, 2006 05:05 PM

Fly fishing from a canoe?
 
Tom Nakashima wrote:
"Wolfgang" wrote in message
oups.com...

Interestingly (I think) I've noticed over the course of many outings
with others that a canoe ain't a half bad rough gauge of basic casting
skills. While a canoe seat does allow a certain amount of shifting and
twisting, one invariably has to do some contorted casting to one side
or the other. This is very difficult foor those who haven't mastered
the basics. Even more telling, poor casters always rock the
boat.....good'ns don't.

Wolfgang
well, except maybe when trying to eke out just one more yard. :)



Or you can maneuver the canoe one yard closer.
-tom


Yeah, you can put the rod down, pull up the anchor, pick up the paddle,
maneuver one yard closer, put down the anchor, pick up the rod, and make
one good cast before the wind blows into the opposite direction you want
to be facing.

Or you can get a kick boat (aka pontoon boat) and use your fins to put
you exactly where you want to be, facing in exactly the direction you
want to face, without taking your hands off the rod.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Ken Fortenberry June 7th, 2006 05:10 PM

Fly fishing from a canoe?
 
wrote:
...
As to the wind, you will need an anchor, but depending on location, a
homemade "river" anchor (which holds by weight rather than "hooking"
something) can be easily made for a canoe. Take a big coffee or
tomato juice can, fill with concrete, and insert an appropriate
eye-bolt. ...


I use a nylon mesh bag, like what 5 lbs. of onions would
come in, filled with the rocks of the day. At the end of
the day dump out the rocks, fold up your "anchor" and
stuff it in your back pocket.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Tom Nakashima June 7th, 2006 05:24 PM

Fly fishing from a canoe?
 

"rw" wrote in message
m...
Tom Nakashima wrote:
"Wolfgang" wrote in message
oups.com...

Interestingly (I think) I've noticed over the course of many outings
with others that a canoe ain't a half bad rough gauge of basic casting
skills. While a canoe seat does allow a certain amount of shifting and
twisting, one invariably has to do some contorted casting to one side
or the other. This is very difficult foor those who haven't mastered
the basics. Even more telling, poor casters always rock the
boat.....good'ns don't.

Wolfgang
well, except maybe when trying to eke out just one more yard. :)



Or you can maneuver the canoe one yard closer.
-tom


Yeah, you can put the rod down, pull up the anchor, pick up the paddle,
maneuver one yard closer, put down the anchor, pick up the rod, and make
one good cast before the wind blows into the opposite direction you want
to be facing.


Or one could haul to get that extra distance, and learn the snake roll to
change directions, even
switch casting hands from left to right if the wind picks up, or learn the
over the shoulder cast...
that way you don't scare the fish when you move those fins.


Or you can get a kick boat (aka pontoon boat) and use your fins to put you
exactly where you want to be, facing in exactly the direction you want to
face, without taking your hands off the rod.

-tom




Wolfgang June 7th, 2006 05:29 PM

Fly fishing from a canoe?
 

William Claspy wrote:

...When it's time to cast, however, I frequently scoot myself up into the seat.
And, sad to say, more often than not cause a little side-to-side rocking o'
the boat.

No expert,
Bill


I, on the other hand, never rock the boat.......as many here can
attest. :)

Wolfgang


rw June 7th, 2006 05:47 PM

Fly fishing from a canoe?
 
Tom Nakashima wrote:

that way you don't scare the fish when you move those fins.


So fins scare fish and paddles don't?

I don't believe that my Force Fins scare the fish. I catch a large
percentage of my fish right near my pontoon boat, and if they're rising
they'll often rise right next to the boat (which causes some funny
antics when I have 60-foot cast out).

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.


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