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Recommendations for 6wt fly rod under $200
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 00:55:33 GMT, "Dawn Moe" wrote:
Some Walmarts might carry more, but the only Orvis products Walmart sells here are Green Mountain fly lines and leaders. Bottom end lines from Orvis. No other Orvis products. They sell mostly very low end Scientific Angler gear. AKA: junk. Jeremy Moe Oh, goody...a new face who fancies him(?)self a DYGS...and for Tim and the guide - just sub "gear" for "beer"...bubba, you are in about as wrong a place as you can get if you wanna set yourself up as a real high-stepping gear connoisseur...and you are doing it with about as wrong a person as you could pick, too... There isn't a fly rod at any Walmart, anywhere, that a decent FFer _couldn't_ use. If that FFer _wouldn't_ use it, that says more about them than Walmart or the gear in question. Heck, in the hands of many, even a broken rod in the returned items bin could produce results. And if a FFer's budget made Walmart (or other purveyors of what you call "junk") the supplier of choice, there's no shame in that. You're not by any chance from Ketchum, Jr. or the proud owner of, IIRC, "at least one of every rod Orvis ever made," are you? R R, Let me clarify...1st, I don't know you and didn't pick a fight with you, I simply posted a recomendation to try to help the guy out. 2d, I am not a dumbass, a yuppie, and least of all, I am not a gear snob. If you would read further down in later posts, you would read that I use some of the cheapest gear available (compared to what most others use). 3rd, I am not trying to set myself up as "a real high-stepping gear connoisseur", just the opposite. I have not had the privelege of owning or using anything other than the lower end equipment my wife allows me to buy. 4th, the Walmart references in question were pertaining to the Walmart here in my town. Your Walmart may (and probably is) different. My first fly rod was a SA bought at my local Walmart, and with noone and nowhere near to learn the art of fly fishing from, it was a miserable rod to teach myself on. Simple lack of experience and a mentor kept me from enjoying that rod. 5th, no you don't recall correctly, I have never said I was the owner of "at least one of every rod Orvis ever made." Again, just the opposite, I have only owned one Orvis, and I much prefer my (much cheaper) St. Croix over the Orvis. Let me clarify your clarification: 1st, no, you do, I didn't say you did, and no, you didn't. 2nd, Well, if you PROMISE you aren't. So what you're saying is that I'd discover that you have no real basis to tell the good from the bad, or IOW, the "junk" from the "not junk." 3rd, see the 2nd sentence of "2nd," previous. 4th, you somehow think that the merchandise is your neighborhood Walmart is junk, but the same merchandise in my neighborhood Walmart is probably different. It isn't. And while you had no experience to draw from, you choose to blame the tools...well, you know what they say about workmen who blame their tools. 5th, I never said you did. That was another poster who absolutely promised they were not a dumbass, and while it may not be an exact quote, it's certainly not a gross mischaracterization of what they did claim. I just thought it at least possible that you ran in certain circles... Jeremy Moe (just trying to understand why some folks just want to try to start **** with people they don't know) Yeah, ain't that the damndest thing? |
Recommendations for 6wt fly rod under $200
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 00:59:15 GMT, "Dawn Moe" wrote:
Let me clarify...1st, I don't know you and didn't pick a fight with you, I simply posted a recomendation to try to help the guy out. 2d, I am not a dumbass, a yuppie, and least of all, I am not a gear snob. If you would read further down in later posts, you would read that I use some of the cheapest gear available (compared to what most others use). 3rd, I am not trying to set myself up as "a real high-stepping gear connoisseur", just the opposite. I have not had the privelege of owning or using anything other than the lower end equipment my wife allows me to buy. 4th, the Walmart references in question were pertaining to the Walmart here in my town. Your Walmart may (and probably is) different. My first fly rod was a SA bought at my local Walmart, and with noone and nowhere near to learn the art of fly fishing from, it was a miserable rod to teach myself on. Simple lack of experience and a mentor kept me from enjoying that rod. 5th, no you don't recall correctly, I have never said I was the owner of "at least one of every rod Orvis ever made." Again, just the opposite, I have only owned one Orvis, and I much prefer my (much cheaper) St. Croix over the Orvis. Jeremy Moe (just trying to understand why some folks just want to try to start **** with people they don't know) Let me amend that first part, yes I am sometimes (we all can be) a dumbass. Oh...if you say so... Jeremy |
Recommendations for 6wt fly rod under $200
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Recommendations for 6wt fly rod under $200
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 00:59:15 GMT, "Dawn Moe" wrote:
Let me clarify...1st, I don't know you and didn't pick a fight with you, I simply posted a recomendation to try to help the guy out. 2d, I am not a dumbass, a yuppie, and least of all, I am not a gear snob. If you would read further down in later posts, you would read that I use some of the cheapest gear available (compared to what most others use). 3rd, I am not trying to set myself up as "a real high-stepping gear connoisseur", just the opposite. I have not had the privelege of owning or using anything other than the lower end equipment my wife allows me to buy. 4th, the Walmart references in question were pertaining to the Walmart here in my town. Your Walmart may (and probably is) different. My first fly rod was a SA bought at my local Walmart, and with noone and nowhere near to learn the art of fly fishing from, it was a miserable rod to teach myself on. Simple lack of experience and a mentor kept me from enjoying that rod. 5th, no you don't recall correctly, I have never said I was the owner of "at least one of every rod Orvis ever made." Again, just the opposite, I have only owned one Orvis, and I much prefer my (much cheaper) St. Croix over the Orvis. Jeremy Moe (just trying to understand why some folks just want to try to start **** with people they don't know) Let me amend that first part, yes I am sometimes (we all can be) a dumbass. Jeremy Well...."Some are more dumbass than others" I suggest, when confronted with Dickie's random offerings, you not over analyze the obvious. Sometimes a nitwit is just....a nitwit. Yah know? ;-) /daytripper (hope this helps) |
Recommendations for 6wt fly rod under $200
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 00:48:05 -0400, daytripper
wrote: Um, doesn't Walmart carry some Orvis stuff? Wait a tick... (checks calendar) Right on time ;-) If that's a reference to the mid-terms, let me cover it right here and now. There are a number of Republicans that are going to lose and the problem there is that the Dems who will win don't deserve the job any more than the folks they'll replace. I suspect a sadly large part of it will just be trading their scumbags for your scumbags. About the only race I _really_ care about is the Texas Governor's, and I hope Kinky beats Perry like a rented red-headed stepmule. I am somewhat curious what happens with Lieberman, but I don't have even a short gay black puppy in that fight. I think what the Dems did was ****ty, but not because they are Dems, but because from what I know (admittedly little as far as direct and local), Joe is and was, generally and as pols go, um, well, a pretty good Joe and given the overall numbers, it seems that a fair number of his Dem constituents think so, too, and want him in. Oddly, that may be the start of something: a move to Indies, where there is at least a slim chance of Congresspeople voting one's con...well, OK, so probably not, but, hey, one can dream... As to the Foley matter, from what is generally available, Foley is a pedophile who needs to be in prison, and Hastert oughta resign, at least from the leadership, yesterday. If he did _know_ there was something up, he ought to be tossed in the clink with Foley. And if he should have known, but simply didn't, he ought to be not only tossed out of leadership, but Congress, too, as being too stupid to be there. It appears that at least Fordham is lying about who knew what when, but his doing so doesn't mean someone didn't know something a time back. And as to the Dems, it _appears_ at this point that at least some Dems knew about something and saved it as an "October surprise." If so, any Dems that did know are just as guilty and ought to be run out of town, too. And no, at this point, I don't think there is enough evidence known to make a call as to it all. Whatever the case, the page program should be abolished, or at least, no more minors. It has been a happy hunting ground for pervs of both parties and one day of that is two days too many. From a historical perspective, the Dems have no moral high ground on this type of thing, and corruption naturally occurs more in the party in power than the minority. When the Dems had control, they were the ones getting, um, favored, and if they take over, they'll again become the party whose members are being, um, favored by the lobbies/interests/etc. And Pelosi is nothing more than Tom DeLay in a dress - a scumbag's scumbag. Her current blathering is just like her prior blathering: just more political hypocrisy. She was there, rallying 'round the party, ready to scratch the eyes out of all comers who might suggest that her people weren't all fine, upstanding, and forthright. Recall that back in the late 80s and early 90s, it was the in-control Dems who were, er, playing Studd to the pages, snorting (and dealing) coke, forcing themselves on multiple women and men, being "favored" with all sorts of money, drugs, and sex, and running gay whorehouses out of their homes (to be fair, I think Frank was only guilty of _extreme_ stupidity but see Hastert, stupidity, and getting booted, above - I've seen nothing that he knew or condoned his boy's, er, business - and from what I know, he has actually turned out to be a generally decent legislator). HTH, R /daytripper (ahahahahahahahahahahahah!) |
Recommendations for 6wt fly rod under $200
wrote in message ... From a historical perspective, the Dems have no moral high ground on this type of thing, and corruption naturally occurs more in the party in power than the minority. Obviously, but that's not the point. People get real sick of morality police (which liberals traditionally are definitely not) trying to take our freedoms away, and then being hypocritical. There are lots of people in this country who have no more than a mild preference for one party, because all rational people believe that all reasonable democratic parties have pros and cons, and the majority of people would choose some mix of "issues" from each. The problem though is that we are no longer choosing between conservative and liberal. We're not currently living under a conservative Republican administration, we're living under a fascist regime. |
Recommendations for 6wt fly rod under $200
"Steve" wrote in message ... On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 23:55:20 GMT, "jeffc" wrote: People get real sick of morality police (which liberals traditionally are definitely not) trying to take our freedoms away, and then being hypocritical. Um, the short list of Dem hypocrisy would include voting to retain slavery, voting against lynching laws, refusing women the vote, fraudulent voting scandals, having as their dean in the Senate an actual former Klansman, voting for driver's licenses to be issued to illegal aliens, "mother knows best laws", and perhaps the most atrocious act of committing perjury against a private citizen while holding the highest law enforcement position in the country. We can probably skip over the Albright/Berger/Clinton Iraq statements. You may be right about the police state fascism of the Republicans in this administration, but you're embracing a party that has done a poor job of protecting your freedom and I doubt represents your values. It's OK to be independent. A man after my own heart! If you're not married Steve..............................don't it kills the spirit! Op |
Recommendations for 6wt fly rod under $200
"Steve" wrote in message ... On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 23:55:20 GMT, "jeffc" wrote: People get real sick of morality police (which liberals traditionally are definitely not) trying to take our freedoms away, and then being hypocritical. Um, the short list of Dem hypocrisy would include voting to retain slavery, voting against lynching laws, refusing women the vote, fraudulent voting scandals, having as their dean in the Senate an actual former Klansman, voting for driver's licenses to be issued to illegal aliens, "mother knows best laws", and perhaps the most atrocious act of committing perjury against a private citizen while holding the highest law enforcement position in the country. We can probably skip over the Albright/Berger/Clinton Iraq statements. You may be right about the police state fascism of the Republicans in this administration, but you're embracing a party that has done a poor job of protecting your freedom and I doubt represents your values. It's OK to be independent. The better of 2 evils is still evil. Gene |
Recommendations for 6wt fly rod under $200
"Steve" wrote in message ... On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 23:55:20 GMT, "jeffc" wrote: People get real sick of morality police (which liberals traditionally are definitely not) trying to take our freedoms away, and then being hypocritical. Um, the short list of Dem hypocrisy would include voting to retain slavery, voting against lynching laws, refusing women the vote, fraudulent voting scandals, having as their dean in the Senate an actual former Klansman, voting for driver's licenses to be issued to illegal aliens, "mother knows best laws", and perhaps the most atrocious act of committing perjury against a private citizen while holding the highest law enforcement position in the country. We can probably skip over the Albright/Berger/Clinton Iraq statements. You may be right about the police state fascism of the Republicans in this administration, but you're embracing a party ... Huh? Doesn't sound like you read my post. In any case, granted I was thinking in my lifetime. And there is really no escaping the fact that that label of morality police goes to Republicans, not Democrats. With respect to hypocrisy, I was trying to make a point about morality policing, not hypocrisy in general. |
Recommendations for 6wt fly rod under $200
"jeffc" wrote in message ... Huh? Doesn't sound like you read my post. In any case, granted I was thinking in my lifetime. And there is really no escaping the fact that that label of morality police goes to Republicans, not Democrats. With respect to hypocrisy, I was trying to make a point about morality policing, not hypocrisy in general. I think that Steve was trying to point out the neither the Dems nor the Repubs are worthy of our votes. I could be wrong about Steve's post, but that's the way I read it. Op |
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