Fishing - OT wind power again

Seems to be that nobody here knows much about windpower, so I should
probably save my breath...too bad you can't run industrial turbines
withot a coal or nuclear plant. The government subsidies are what
puts them online...more and more countries and towns are scrapping
wind development on a daily basis.

Sorry if anyone has a problem with opposing views, but I can't discuss
anything with people who don't know that facts and refuse to look at
them. Sure, lets destroy the environment, the wildlife, and millions
of people's quality of life so JP Morgan and Glodman Sachs can walk
away with taxpayer monies.....sounds real logical to me...NOT.

Anne

On Apr 21, 3:05 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:
"Tom Littleton" wrote in message

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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Look at the specs onturbinesbeing
used...the bladrs spin at 14-16 RPM AND the ends of the blades are
going 180 to 220 MPH......

Hm......

Here's an idea. Why don't you give us some idea of whom you are
addressing and what the hell you are blithering about, and then we'll see
whether anyone other than stevie (who, as you have seen by now, doesn't
learn) cares to explore the issue of just which flavor of idiot you are?

the poster would seem, pretty clearly, to be addressing
your proposal. With data, no less. Where does that make
them an idiot?

Them? I tought I was addressing an individual named Anne. At any rate, I
think that doesn't make her an idiot. I have no idea of how she came to be
an idiot. However, stating that blades on awinddriven generator turn at
14-16 RPM and that the resulting speed at the ends of those blades is in the
range of 180-200 miles per hour does not address my proposal. All I've
proposed is that more use be made ofwinddriven generators. If you see a
connection that I'm missing, I'd be glad to know what it is.

Why do I have a poster made by Horizon and
PPM that says "beware of ice throw fromwindturbines, may cause
injury or fatality????

Um......it was a gift from someone who doesn't like you? You stole it
from someboy's underwear drawer? It's actually a small Vietnamese
pot-bellied pig and you should stop smoking whatever that **** is?

once again, the poster would seem to be sharing a public safety warning
regardingwindturbinesin current use.

She asked why she has a particular poster. I gave it my three best guesses.

Your response is not furthering your point, Wolfie.

My point is in fields across the country, and in many others. Windworks.

I'm not picking on you, but expecting something a bit more
germane than the sort of knee-jerk attacks on anyone who dares post an
opposing point of view.

Something more than being amused at exaggeration? Something more detailed
than, "See what France is already doing today, and spend some money to
improve
beyond that."?

Anne

I think you are going to fit in just beautifully here, Anne, and we are
going to have SUCH fun together! :)

Wolfgang

Hell, if it comes down to actually presenting facts, we might have serious
fun.

O.k., I'll start. Windpowered generators are coming on line daily and at
an ever increasing rate. So, how many nuclear plants have come on line here
in the past ten years or so? How many new ones do you expect to see in the
NEXT ten years? And, hey, what's it cost to put one of those babies up
these days?

Thus far, she would seem to be eating your argument for breakfast.....

Which argument is that? Is it the one where I said the notion that things
with moving parts can be dangerous is nonsense? Well, yeah, I guess I might
be willing to retract that.....if I ever have the opportunity to examine a
thing with moving parts up close. Or, was it perhaps the one where I said
thatwinddriven generators work? The one about more of them being used as
time goes on? The one where I stated that more of them SHOULD be used? Or
is it some other argument that no one has yet informed me of. In any case,
I'd be thrilled to hear an analysis of how she prepared breakfast using any
of those ingredients.

but, it is early in the process, so I withold any conclusive
judgement.......

Hm.....

Tom
....rage, hilarity and noble intent are all well and good, but
the problem discussed is real(energy usage and production) and facts beat
hyperbole, at least to this mind.

Which facts? What hyperbole?

Thus far, your idea is short on details, long on hyperbole,
Wolfie. I keep waiting for practical, or even reasonably possiblewind
solutions for providing North America's electrical power needs.

All the while showering me with a mountain of facts and concrete details
about how French nuclear plants are better?

Like I said, I almost feel guilty for attacking you, as I know your
intentions are positive(at least regarding power supply, not necessarily
those aimed toward RW, Ken or Rick). Still, the rhetoric you've used in
this "debate" has bordered on juvenile, with a mix of Connor-style
pedantic.

I guess the problem is that I just can't come up with anything to counter
the overwhelming mass of evidence that has been brought to bear against my
case.

Wolfgang
who feels sure he could do much better if he just knew what his case
is.....but keeps getting stuck on the notion that what he has stated it to
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