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Tom Littleton February 7th, 2008 02:11 AM

Obama
 

"DoubleHaul" wrote in message
...

The last president I voted for was Ross Pereau.



please, somebody......Google this name and find out who the heck Ross Pereau
is. Gawd, I just love a nation where you can vote for someone whose name you
cannot even spell correctly!! And, then, we wonder why we, as a nation,
elect seeming imbeciles to office.
Tom



daytripper February 7th, 2008 02:13 AM

Obama
 
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:20:20 -0500, DoubleHaul
wrote:

The last president I voted for was Ross Pereau. The rest of them are
just crooked laywers.
"Do the Math"!
Need some Change Agentry!


Of which country was "Ross Pereau" the president? France? Belgium?

/daytripper (Quebec? ;-)

Tom Littleton February 7th, 2008 02:14 AM

Obama
 

"jeff miller" wrote in message
. ..
i'll chip in on your gas bill next time i see you...good work!!


oh, here we go again. Jeff will put in "Regular" and all hell will break
loose......
Tom
p.s. What? Doesn't everyone throw a fit over that one?



[email protected] February 7th, 2008 04:59 AM

Obama
 
On Feb 6, 3:08 pm, rw wrote:
Their policy positions are nearly identical. I'm just sick of
Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton.

I don't care about charisma or oratorical skills. I just want something
different.

If Hillary Clinton end's up the nominee I will enthusiastically vote for
her.


You're tired of Bush-Clinton. Want something different. Mad at
Clinton
for voting for the Iraq war. But if (when) she gets the nomination
you'll
vote for her regardless?

I just don't get people who vote strictly based on party. No wonder
both parties keep nominating garbage.
- Ken

Donut February 7th, 2008 09:20 AM

Obama
 
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:59:52 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Feb 6, 3:08 pm, rw wrote:
Their policy positions are nearly identical. I'm just sick of
Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton.

I don't care about charisma or oratorical skills. I just want something
different.

If Hillary Clinton end's up the nominee I will enthusiastically vote for
her.


You're tired of Bush-Clinton. Want something different. Mad at
Clinton
for voting for the Iraq war. But if (when) she gets the nomination
you'll
vote for her regardless?

I just don't get people who vote strictly based on party. No wonder
both parties keep nominating garbage.
- Ken



OK, throw out party platforms...

For whatever reason, RW is inclined to vote for a democrat, whoever
that might be come November. He said he prefers Obama, but implies
that he'd take Clinton over any of the republican contenders.

So what's the problem?

I thought he'd explained his position pretty clearly earlier in this
thread. As Larry L. said, this is a person to vote *for*.

Besides, what would his options be? If you are of the democrat
persuasion, it's down to two people.

Don

jeff miller[_2_] February 7th, 2008 01:34 PM

Obama
 
Steve wrote:
On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:33:57 -0500, jeff miller
wrote:


so, um, depends on whether or not the activism is based on service to
jeffersonian ideals, eh?



No, it does not.


what is a "jeffersonian independent?"

is one who is active in supporting jeffersonian ideals over some other
principled philosophy an activist? which ideals? can a judge be a
"jeffersonian activist"?

you do know that pat robertson and his high priest of judicial activism,
jay sekulow, profess to be adherents of jeffersonian ideals? i think
most of those you might call an activist have probably cited jefferson
in advancing their brand of activism.

i have always had difficulty with certain labels...or figuring out how
they are meant to apply (other than in the typical pejorative manner).

in my mind, everyone is an "activist" of some sort if they have any
principled philosophy at all. the idea that the judiciary cannot be
"activist" is hard for me to grasp. I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, you
would have no problem if the judicial activism suited your thoughtful
ideals and philosophy of the purposes to be served by the court. in
short, i think activism is in the eye of the beholder. some don't see
clarence t. as an "activist" judge.

my cryptic point was poorly made and my attempt to have you flesh out
your statement was without success.

jeff

Scott Seidman February 7th, 2008 02:34 PM

Obama
 
rw wrote in news:47aa44bf$0$14098
:

My biggest problem with Hillary Clinton is that she could energize the
rabid right-wing Republican vote. They hate her. Her campaign would be a
get-out-the-vote campaign for the wingers.


Yes, they do hate her, but I don't think that's enough this cycle. We had
a 40% Democratic turnout for the primary in my county!!! Also, frankly, a
good deal of those rabidly motivated by Hillary might be just as motivated
by the thought of keeping a black man out of the White House. Some Dems
might think that way too.

--
Scott
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Scott Seidman February 7th, 2008 02:35 PM

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daytripper wrote in
:

Of which country was "Ross Pereau" the president? France? Belgium?



Belgium. He was the first mime elected to high public office. It was in
direct response to GW's election win, in a move assured to prevent idiocy
from being uttered in the State House.

--
Scott
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Wolfgang February 7th, 2008 02:54 PM

Obama
 

"Tom Littleton" wrote in message
news:GNtqj.6822$Qj3.5214@trndny07...

"DoubleHaul" wrote in message
...

The last president I voted for was Ross Pereau.



please, somebody......Google this name and find out who the heck Ross
Pereau is. Gawd, I just love a nation where you can vote for someone whose
name you cannot even spell correctly!! And, then, we wonder why we, as a
nation, elect seeming imbeciles to office.



What's more interesting, I think, is that whoever he is he was
president.....and nobody told me till now.

Wolfgang
always the last to know.



Wolfgang February 7th, 2008 03:08 PM

Obama
 

"jeff miller" wrote in message
. ..

...my cryptic point was poorly made


I got it.

and my attempt to have you flesh out your statement was without success.


Surprise! :)

We live in a world in which words like "liberal" and "conservative" are seen
as necessarily antithetical. Both are used pejoratively. "Activist" is
also used as a slander.....regardless of what one is active in pursuing.
None of it is the least bit useful.....but it sure as hell beats the agony
of thinking.

Wolfgang
and who are we to deny anyone the right to amuse and entertain us?







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