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Larry L April 16th, 2008 04:53 PM

knotted leader/tippet help
 

"notbob" wrote


blood knots for pre-tied lead/tips. Besides, I found a Stu Apte improved
blood knot that looks perfect for further self abuse.




I must say, not, that you seem nearly destined to become a diehard indicator
nymph fisherman ... a discipline ideal for those with masochism running in
their system



Wolfgang April 16th, 2008 05:17 PM

knotted leader/tippet help
 

"notbob" wrote in message
...
On 2008-04-16, Wolfgang wrote:

(diagram a.). The kind of angles you describe suggest that you've got
the
tippet reversed.....

a.

line ___________________________
tippet ________________



Those few lines make no sense, whatsoever, but nevermind.


O.k. Try this then......kiss my ass.

I went back and took a more methodical approach to the surgeon's knot.
This
time I applied plenty of notbob's gen-u-whine fly-ty spit and made sure I
was tightening evenly. Voila! ....and very little deviation off stright.
This is no doubt the more practical knot for stream-side, but I'll be
damned
if I'll let 3 days of bloody practice go to waste and will probably use
blood knots for pre-tied lead/tips. Besides, I found a Stu Apte improved
blood knot that looks perfect for further self abuse.


Yeah, have fun.

Wolfgang



daytripper April 16th, 2008 05:59 PM

knotted leader/tippet help
 
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:53:17 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:

"notbob" wrote


blood knots for pre-tied lead/tips. Besides, I found a Stu Apte improved
blood knot that looks perfect for further self abuse.


I must say, not, that you seem nearly destined to become a diehard indicator
nymph fisherman ... a discipline ideal for those with masochism running in
their system


The ideal discipline for masochists is nymphing *without* an indicator...

/daytripper (not a masochist ;-)

[email protected] April 16th, 2008 08:07 PM

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On Apr 15, 8:04 pm, wrote:
You're just going to argue for the surgeon's and against the blood no
matter what. Yawn. You're boring.


Oh man, _that_ made me laugh good. Thanks.

Jon.

notbob April 16th, 2008 08:09 PM

knotted leader/tippet help
 
On 2008-04-16, Wolfgang wrote:

O.k. Try this then......kiss my ass.


Yeah, have fun.


Boy, it's all or nothing with this group. :|

Let's see, so far:

Hispanics = NO!
Gay jokes = yes
Q's from noobs = yes
Humor from noobs = no

Have you folks considered a roff FAQ?

nb

Wolfgang April 16th, 2008 08:15 PM

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"notbob" wrote in message
.. .
On 2008-04-16, Wolfgang wrote:

O.k. Try this then......kiss my ass.


Yeah, have fun.


Boy, it's all or nothing with this group. :|

Let's see, so far:

Hispanics = NO!
Gay jokes = yes
Q's from noobs = yes
Humor from noobs = no

Have you folks considered a roff FAQ?


Not to put too fine a point on it but questions and/or pronouncements
concerning consideration would appear to be a bit out of your depth. Best
to stick to observations along the "golly heck these knot thingies sure are
tough" line for now.

Wolfgang



notbob April 16th, 2008 09:21 PM

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On 2008-04-16, Wolfgang wrote:

Not to put too fine a point on it but questions and/or pronouncements
concerning consideration would appear to be a bit out of your depth. Best
to stick to observations along the "golly heck these knot thingies sure are
tough" line for now.


Well, I guess it's no longer a secret which one of your pigeon holes I've
been placed. Thanks for the info, anyway.

nb

Wolfgang April 16th, 2008 09:27 PM

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"notbob" wrote in message
...
On 2008-04-16, Wolfgang wrote:

Not to put too fine a point on it but questions and/or pronouncements
concerning consideration would appear to be a bit out of your depth.
Best
to stick to observations along the "golly heck these knot thingies sure
are
tough" line for now.


Well, I guess it's no longer a secret which one of your pigeon holes I've
been placed.


No pigeonholes. On the other hand, my perceptions of people don't arise in
vacuo.

Are you what you appear to be? Or do you merely appear to be what you are?

Thanks for the info, anyway.


That was not so much information as it was advice. Take it for what you
think it's worth......or not.....I'll be here either way.

Wolfgang



Ken Fortenberry[_2_] April 16th, 2008 10:24 PM

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Larry L wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote

I've switched to rings for my muskie and bass leaders but I'm
too much of a tweed-dressed, dries upstream only kinda guy to
use them on my trout leaders. ;-)



they say the admission is the first step G

get the very tiny ones .. 4s I believe in Roman Moser brand ... and nobody
but you will ever know you're using them :-) ... use a Pitzen to attach
the ring and clinch ( or improved ) to attach tippet and fly and you'll
almost never lose a ring ... very similar to your
" like this setup because
the double surgeons is the weak link and if I break off that's
where I want it to happen."

.... this is doubly true because the mono on the leader side of the ring can
be several sizes bigger than the tippet and still have a very nice casting
leader


I'm fully aware of the advantages the rings offer, that's why
I use them on some leaders. But there is something elegant and
proper about a well-tied knot which I appreciate more than utility.

Come to think of it, that "something" is why I like fly fishing
more than other methods too. I know, it doesn't make sense but
there you have it.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Larry L April 16th, 2008 10:55 PM

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote


I use them on some leaders. But there is something elegant and
proper about a well-tied knot which I appreciate more than utility.

Come to think of it, that "something" is why I like fly fishing
more than other methods too. I know, it doesn't make sense but
there you have it.




Actually, it makes a lot of sense to me.




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