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On Apr 22, 1:02 pm, rw wrote:
Conan The Librarian wrote:

Despite Tim's constant protestations, I'd venture a guess that most
ROFFians attitudes are similar. We don't have problems with areas that
are C'n'R; if we choose to fish them we follow the rules. But it's not
an all or nothing situation for us like it is for Tim. We are
comfortable in how we approach the sport. Tim isn't, therefore he's
trying to drag everyone else down to his level.

I've run into C&R bigots on the water, typically when I'm seen killing a
fish. They're extremely annoying, but rare.

I don't know of a single C&R bigot on ROFF. There is, however, a C&K bigot.

BTW, I'll gladly kill trout that are stocked. (I think stocked fish cook
up very well -- perfect pan size and well fed if freshly stocked :-).

I'm loathe to kill a wild trout unless it's fatally hooked. Anyway,
keeping a wild trout is usually illegal where I fish locally (unless
they're brook trout).

The "subsistence" argument for anti-C&R is absurd.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

You can't tell the difference between a wild and a stocked trout.

Halfordian Golfer
Really...even when stocked as subcatchable?

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On Apr 22, 1:09 pm, Conan The Librarian wrote:
Halfordian Golfer wrote:
Sorry but you're wrong. Read just about every other post here or pick
up any issue of R&R or Flyfishing magazine. The vast majority of
flyfishermen that I see and hear (keep in mind that I lived in the #1
flyfishing city in the world for more than a decade that gave me this
perspective, had a driftboat and the whole catastrophe) bash
relentlessly other anglers and angling techniques.

Feel free to show us examples of "about every other post" that
"bash[es] relentlessly other anglers and angling techniques".

I'll wait with "baited" breath.

FWIW, the vast majority of folks I know who "bash" other techniques
"bash" poachers, plain and simple.

I'm just here to
keep it real

Tim, no offense, but you don't have the slightest sense of what's
real.

Someone says a negative word to me about having a fish on a
stringer or a stick to my face and I will press charges.

And I suppose this is another instance of you "keeping it real".

Chuck Vance (the twilight zone runs through it)

Chuck - Go bonk a brown trout at high noon in the bowl below Reudi and
call me in the morning.

Your pal,

Halfordian Golfer

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"Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message
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[snip]

Try to keep up wolfman.

The "#1 flyfishing city in the world"? No ****? You lived in Gleason?

http://www.fieldandstream.com/articl...?ID=1000014252

Hm......let me guess. You're suggesting that means something.....right?
C'mon, tell me I'm right. I'm right, ain't I? Yeah, I'm right.

So, you've never actually been to Gleason, huh?

Press charges? See, the problem isn't simply that you're
crazy.......you're also stupid.

http://www.michigandnr.com/law/Repor...Week=6/27/1999

"CO Peggy Ruby obtained a warrant for angler harassment and CO Dave
Rock is investigating another case involving a subject who verbally
assaulting and throwing rocks at an angler. We have received an
unusually high number of these complaints this yea

All 50 states have laws protecting hunters and anglers from
harassment.

"Someone says a negative word to me about having a fish on a stringer or a
stick to my face and I will press charges." So, you think that someone
saying a negative word to you constitutes harrassment? In that case, you
should probably be prepared to be sued by everyone in ROFF. Thinking really
causes you a great deal of pain, doesn't it. But wait, how would you
know......ainna?

Your pal,

Halfordian Golfer
It is impossible to catch and release a wild trout.

Imbecile.

Wolfgang

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Halfordian Golfer wrote:
On Apr 22, 1:02 pm, rw wrote:

Conan The Librarian wrote:


Despite Tim's constant protestations, I'd venture a guess that most
ROFFians attitudes are similar. We don't have problems with areas that
are C'n'R; if we choose to fish them we follow the rules. But it's not
an all or nothing situation for us like it is for Tim. We are
comfortable in how we approach the sport. Tim isn't, therefore he's
trying to drag everyone else down to his level.

I've run into C&R bigots on the water, typically when I'm seen killing a
fish. They're extremely annoying, but rare.

I don't know of a single C&R bigot on ROFF. There is, however, a C&K bigot.

BTW, I'll gladly kill trout that are stocked. (I think stocked fish cook
up very well -- perfect pan size and well fed if freshly stocked :-).

I'm loathe to kill a wild trout unless it's fatally hooked. Anyway,
keeping a wild trout is usually illegal where I fish locally (unless
they're brook trout).

The "subsistence" argument for anti-C&R is absurd.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.


You can't tell the difference between a wild and a stocked trout.

Yes I can.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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On Apr 22, 4:57 pm, rw wrote:
Halfordian Golfer wrote:
On Apr 22, 1:02 pm, rw wrote:

Conan The Librarian wrote:

Despite Tim's constant protestations, I'd venture a guess that most
ROFFians attitudes are similar. We don't have problems with areas that
are C'n'R; if we choose to fish them we follow the rules. But it's not
an all or nothing situation for us like it is for Tim. We are
comfortable in how we approach the sport. Tim isn't, therefore he's
trying to drag everyone else down to his level.

I've run into C&R bigots on the water, typically when I'm seen killing a
fish. They're extremely annoying, but rare.

I don't know of a single C&R bigot on ROFF. There is, however, a C&K bigot.

BTW, I'll gladly kill trout that are stocked. (I think stocked fish cook
up very well -- perfect pan size and well fed if freshly stocked :-).

I'm loathe to kill a wild trout unless it's fatally hooked. Anyway,
keeping a wild trout is usually illegal where I fish locally (unless
they're brook trout).

The "subsistence" argument for anti-C&R is absurd.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

You can't tell the difference between a wild and a stocked trout.

Yes I can.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

You can tell a fish that was born in the river versus one that was
stocked as fry or that was stocked as a catchable and is a multi-year
holdover? Unless you're talking about Steelhead with clipped fins, I'd
sure like to hear how you can tell.

Your pal,

TBone

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Halfordian Golfer wrote:

Chuck - Go bonk a brown trout at high noon in the bowl below Reudi and
call me in the morning.

Amazing. The longest continuous troll in the history of roff
persists practically unabated.

Credit where credit is due, Tim Walker is the most persistent,
dogged, tireless and pertinacious troll ever to start the same
old bull**** for the thousandth time on roff.

If nothing else, (and there is nothing else), the guy has
stick-to-itiveness.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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On Apr 22, 2:19*pm, Halford's Golfer wrote:
On Apr 22, 4:57 pm, rw wrote:





Halfords Golfer wrote:
On Apr 22, 1:02 pm, rw wrote:

Conan The Librarian wrote:

* Despite Tim's constant protestations, I'd venture a guess that most
Ruffians attitudes are similar. *We don't have problems with areas that
are C'n'R; if we choose to fish them we follow the rules. *But it's not
an all or nothing situation for us like it is for Tim. *We are
comfortable in how we approach the sport. *Tim isn't, therefore he's
trying to drag everyone else down to his level.

I've run into C&R bigots on the water, typically when I'm seen killing a
fish. They're extremely annoying, but rare.

I don't know of a single C&R bigot on ROFF. There is, however, a C&K bigot.

BTW, I'll gladly kill trout that are stocked. (I think stocked fish cook
up very well -- perfect pan size and well fed if freshly stocked :-).

I'm loathe to kill a wild trout unless it's fatally hooked. Anyway,
keeping a wild trout is usually illegal where I fish locally (unless
they're brook trout).

The "subsistence" argument for anti-C&R is absurd.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

You can't tell the difference between a wild and a stocked trout.

Yes I can.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

You can tell a fish that was born in the river versus one that was
stocked as fry or that was stocked as a catchable and is a multi-year
holdover? Unless you're talking about Steelhead with clipped fins, I'd
sure like to hear how you can tell.

Your pal,

TBone- Hide quoted text -

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Crowding wear signs
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Lack of muscle tone
etc etc etc

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Halfordian Golfer wrote:
On Apr 22, 4:57 pm, rw wrote:

Halfordian Golfer wrote:

On Apr 22, 1:02 pm, rw wrote:

You can't tell the difference between a wild and a stocked trout.

Yes I can.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.


You can tell a fish that was born in the river versus one that was
stocked as fry or that was stocked as a catchable and is a multi-year
holdover? Unless you're talking about Steelhead with clipped fins, I'd
sure like to hear how you can tell.

Your pal,

TBone

In Idaho (at least in my parts) the apipose fins of all stocked rainbow
trout are clipped -- not just steelhead. If the fish is a multi-year
holdover its fin is still clipped. They don't grow back. Wild rainbows
(i.e., those with intact apipose fins) must be released.

Cutthroat (in my parts of Idaho) are not stocked in places where they
naturally spawn. They're stocked as fry in high lakes where they cannot
spawn, or at least can't spawn with much success. It's widely known
which lakes these are. The limit is two fish per day. The limit on wild
cutthroat is zero.

All bull trout are wild fish. The limit is zero.

All brook trout are wild fish. The limit is 10 per day (with
exceptions). They're exotic pests.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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On Apr 22, 5:51 pm, rw wrote:
Halfordian Golfer wrote:
On Apr 22, 4:57 pm, rw wrote:

Halfordian Golfer wrote:

On Apr 22, 1:02 pm, rw wrote:

You can't tell the difference between a wild and a stocked trout.

Yes I can.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

You can tell a fish that was born in the river versus one that was
stocked as fry or that was stocked as a catchable and is a multi-year
holdover? Unless you're talking about Steelhead with clipped fins, I'd
sure like to hear how you can tell.

Your pal,

TBone

In Idaho (at least in my parts) the apipose fins of all stocked rainbow
trout are clipped -- not just steelhead. If the fish is a multi-year
holdover its fin is still clipped. They don't grow back. Wild rainbows
(i.e., those with intact apipose fins) must be released.

Cutthroat (in my parts of Idaho) are not stocked in places where they
naturally spawn. They're stocked as fry in high lakes where they cannot
spawn, or at least can't spawn with much success. It's widely known
which lakes these are. The limit is two fish per day. The limit on wild
cutthroat is zero.

All bull trout are wild fish. The limit is zero.

All brook trout are wild fish. The limit is 10 per day (with
exceptions). They're exotic pests.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

They do not do that in Colorado, there is no way to tell if a fish was
born in the stream or not. Do they clip the fins on fry that are
introduced?

Thanks,

TBone

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On Apr 22, 5:33 pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Halfordian Golfer wrote:

Chuck - Go bonk a brown trout at high noon in the bowl below Reudi and
call me in the morning.

Amazing. The longest continuous troll in the history of roff
persists practically unabated.

Credit where credit is due, Tim Walker is the most persistent,
dogged, tireless and pertinacious troll ever to start the same
old bull**** for the thousandth time on roff.

If nothing else, (and there is nothing else), the guy has
stick-to-itiveness.

--
Ken Fortenberry

I'm definitely not the troll Ken. The opposite is true. It's just that
when someone goes around bashing bait fishermen, or meat hunters, or
use the method of fishing as a personal pejorative I will call 'em on
it every time. It's incredibly disturbing to me when young people are
introduced to the sport with that bias. Infuriates me as utterly
irresponsible on whomever's part is doing the education. Sadly the
flyfishing industry supports this bias and, also unfortunately
perhaps, it is something that I feel called to do, for whatever
inexplicable reasons any of us do anything.

Your pal,

Halfordian Golfer