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Wolfgang December 10th, 2003 11:25 PM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
y.com...


One takes amusement where one finds it I guess, but a couple of weeks of
this silliness grows wearisome


Different strokes......I find it endlessly entertaining.

and I LIKE baiting the halfwits.


But of course. I can find no fault with that policy......and no one would
believe me if I said I did. :)

I'm STILL
****ed at 'tripper for running off Mr. Magazine before his entertainment
value had expired.


Oh, he's still reading. And I'd have bet a shiny new nickel that he'd be
back......but I think you probably just tipped him off. Bad you!

BTW, if you ever have the opportunity to meet Dave Snedeker you two will
get along famously. Beneath that exterior of a wry, uncompromising,
scattergun sense of outrage lies an intelligent and humorous fishing buddy
with a wry, uncompromising, scattergun sense of outrage. ;-)


Sad, but probably true. Many a mutually rewarding relationship has been
utterly ruined by face to face encounter. :(

Wolfgang



Russell December 10th, 2003 11:45 PM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
Wolfgang wrote:


But of course. I can find no fault with that policy......and no one would
believe me if I said I did. :)


Perhaps the understatement of the year.

Russell


Bluestone December 11th, 2003 12:02 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
Kevin Vang wrote in message . ..
In article ,
foamed at the mouth...

AGAIN WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A VENDETTA.



And so what's the BFD?


~~~~Thank you, Kevin, for agreeing there is a vendetta.

Wolfgang December 11th, 2003 12:10 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 

"Bluestone" wrote in message
om...
Kevin Vang wrote in message

. ..
In article ,
foamed at the mouth...

AGAIN WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A VENDETTA.



And so what's the BFD?


~~~~Thank you, Kevin, for agreeing there is a vendetta.


Not to put too fine a point on it ole Blue, but I believe you missed the
point. See, them scumbag scaramouches in Sicily ain't never paid us a dime.
That **** don't fly here......one'a these days, there WILL be a reckoning.
:(

Wolfgang
hey, they want a war?......we'll give 'em a war.



Mike Connor December 11th, 2003 12:10 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 

"Bluestone" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
om...

AGAIN WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A VENDETTA.


Vendetta = Noun = A feud in which members of the opposing parties murder
each other.

What you have, is a one sided ****ing contest, and you are losing.

MC



Bluestone December 11th, 2003 12:25 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
Rodbuilding.org is not a public site. Somebody owns the name. Somebody
pays to have the site hosted, Somebody puts the time into keeping it
running. That person has signed no contract guaranteeing you any
services. That site owes you nothing.


~~~~The site owes the Rod Builder the chance to share within each
other,
that is why it was put there to begin with! public, "REALLY SOMEONE
OWNS IT"
My email isn't public and i do not own it, rodbuilding.org is for the
public Rod Builder, one doesn't need a password.


Tom Kirkman owns said site and gets paid by the sponsors to advertise
but no sponsors would take down a better deal and if any disagree
stand now and be heard.
WHEN ANYONE KEEPS KNOWLEDGE FROM BEING HEARD BY THE ROD CRAFTER
ESPECIALLY
ON SUCH A SITE THEN ITS WRONG.THIS DOESN'T MEAN TOM KIRKMAN IS A BAD
PERSON AS MANY HAVE TRIED TO INFORM ME IN EMAIL, BUT ONLY THAT THE ACT
IS WRONG.


Actually, it sounds like this Tom guy has a beef with someone, serious
enough to remove references to some group or company from his board, and
he's too much of a gentleman to publicly say what it is.


~~~~scroll, email, email, email i'm the public.




I have read many old and new post and seen many write urls or emails
about companies that are not sponsors.

AGAIN WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A VENDETTA.


----------And the site owner is entitled to his vendetta.

~~~~Not when it interferes with the reason for the site.
Then is just a joke.


Sincerely
bluestonerod

Mike Connor December 11th, 2003 12:28 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 

"Bluestone" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
om...
SNIP
~~~~scroll, email, email, email i'm the public.

SNIP

You are not the public, you are an angry individual, who is losing a one
sided ****ing contest, and refusing to accept it.

This is a public newsgroup, but nobody here owes you anything at all. In
the meantime, quite a lot of people merely think you are being extremely
silly.

Doubtless realisation will eventually dawn.

Lastly, it does not matter what you think, as there is quite obviously not a
thing you can do about it.

MC




Ken Fortenberry December 11th, 2003 12:31 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
Bluestone wrote:
...
AGAIN WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A VENDETTA.


So, go start your own bulletin board, register the domain name,
(rodcrafter.org is for sale), line up some sponsors to pay for the
whole thing, or do it out of your own pocket, and have yourself
your own vendetta.

And I promise when some clueless nitwit comes to roff making a
complete ass of himself complaining about your vendetta, I will
tell him to go start his own bulletin board and have himself his
own vendetta.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Wolfgang December 11th, 2003 02:04 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 

"Bluestone" wrote in message
om...

~~~~The site owes the Rod Builder the chance to share within each
other,
that is why it was put there to begin with! public, "REALLY SOMEONE
OWNS IT"
My email isn't public and i do not own it, rodbuilding.org is for the
public Rod Builder, one doesn't need a password.


Tom Kirkman owns said site and gets paid by the sponsors to advertise
but no sponsors would take down a better deal and if any disagree
stand now and be heard.
WHEN ANYONE KEEPS KNOWLEDGE FROM BEING HEARD BY THE ROD CRAFTER
ESPECIALLY
ON SUCH A SITE THEN ITS WRONG.THIS DOESN'T MEAN TOM KIRKMAN IS A BAD
PERSON AS MANY HAVE TRIED TO INFORM ME IN EMAIL, BUT ONLY THAT THE ACT
IS WRONG.


Actually, it sounds like this Tom guy has a beef with someone, serious
enough to remove references to some group or company from his board, and
he's too much of a gentleman to publicly say what it is.


~~~~scroll, email, email, email i'm the public.




I have read many old and new post and seen many write urls or emails
about companies that are not sponsors.

AGAIN WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A VENDETTA.


----------And the site owner is entitled to his vendetta.

~~~~Not when it interferes with the reason for the site.
Then is just a joke.


Sincerely
bluestonerod


I am an inveterate reader. Some, among those who know me well, go so far as
to say a compulsive, or obsessive reader. There are very few things that I
have not read something about. There are very few questions that I have not
seen addressed at one time or another, however well or poorly. And yet,
there is one nagging question that I have never seen, or heard, anyone deal
with. I have always wondered.....do people who are severely brain damaged
know that they are .......well, severely brain damaged?


Well?


Wolfgang



rodcrafter1967 December 11th, 2003 02:43 AM

TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS
 
My last entry didn't work so I'll try again.

It would appear there is more than this that Mr. Perez is telling. It
seems that Tom Kirkman and Dick French both own rod building
magazines. Tom has Rodmaker Magazine and Dick has something called
Rodcrafter Journal So a few years back Dick French who I think is the
guy operating C&G had published or stated false circulation figures
for Tom's magazine. You would assume this was done in order to harm
the other publication and maybe drive advetisers away. So it then
appears that Tom had to take legal action to get Dick to print a
retraction and say he was wrong.

Since then Tom did allow Dick on his board at rodbuilding.org as a
sponsor but Dick kept badmouthing Tom and his magazine and so finally
Tom got fed up and kicked him off. So now Dick sends people in to
advertise for him. They get removed and you get people like Mr.Perez
upset and trying to do more harm to Tom.

I'm not taking sides here and no one likes to read others dirty
laundry but there is more to this story than Mr. Perez is telling. Tom
seems like he went out of his way to accomodate somebody who was
trying to do harm to his business and just finally said enough is
enough. Plus he does have rules there on his board that were violated.
What's the beef???

John


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