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Western Conclave Update

Warren wrote:

Here's the one I'm getting:

http://www.buckstop.biz/dodge03.html

That's not bad looking at all. Do they only come in silver?

Nope. Other colors are available. It's a powder coat finish which should be
a bit better than plain, painted steel.

Here's a neat bumper we looked at on the way down to the San Juan. It's an
aluminum, winch bumper made with 3/8" & 1/2" aluminum plate. Very well made.
But, the bumpers for the 2003 require the addition of a bottom plate to protect
the bottom of the radiator and the manufacturer doesn't supply this so I lost
interest.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?K69D522F6

Snoop

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Snoop wrote:snip I think that's a Ranch Hand bumper. Kinda ugly but hell
for stout. Looks
OK
on a Ford though:)

I had a Ranch Hand rear bumper on a 3/4 ton Chevy about a decade ago after a
kid tore up the factory bumper by backing into the truck. It looked hell for
stout, but I never tested it as the truck was never wrecked after that.

Big Dale

Western Conclave Update

We probably have more deer strikes in town than in the country. We really do
have an overpopulation problem. Folks in town feed the deer. Deer will lay on

The state isn't issuing many doe tags, if any as far as I know. I
haven't met any one with one.

Paul Williamson
Livingston, MT
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wrote...
The state isn't issuing many doe tags, if any as far as I know. I
haven't met any one with one.

You can get over the counter B tags for several areas and your A tag
is good for either sex whitetail all over. I used to get B tags for
the Gallatin Special Weapons area but didn't buy one this year.
Access in that area is getting more and more difficult.....

Thanks Warren!

Paul Williamson
Livingston, MT
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Western Conclave Update

I'm giving it a good thought....put me on the list as tentative. May need
to cut some time out of the Penn Clave, but I'm dying to get out to your
neck of the woods. I have to warn you, the last four times I went on
vacation I had to deal with a Hurricane (in the Outer Banks), search and
rescue at Boca Grande (after nearly capsizing ourselves), 20 year low
temperatures in the Keys, and pnemonia that put my 2 year old in a Port
Charlotte Hospital for 6 days (this doesn't include the rain and high water
at the Penn's Clave the past two years, although this past year wasn't too
bad). Needless to say I'm a bit snake bitten, so bring layers, rain gear,
floatation devices (is Frank Reid coming?), antibiotics, and batten down the
hatches well, if I do actually plan on showing. If I bum a ride from anyone
you may want to have one of them there fancy bumper systems, I'm sure an Elk
will jump out in front of me..

Is the Slide Inn and/or other accommodations close to Clave Central? I
prefer to camp, but don't know if I want to have to deal with shipping all
of the camping crap or not.

Will also need a box, or four, or flies. I saw your links but which is the
best, and are the fish as selective to fly patterns, as compared to Penn's,
or can I just throw a shiny hook out there and catch 20 inchers??

Mike

ten.tsacmoc@alekamm - just reverse it.

"Warren" wrote in message
...
Okay gents, I have finally put together a somewhat limited
information page for Mayhem on the Madison II. I'm still open for
other names for this conclave so if you have one, I'm all ears. :-)

I put links to various accommodations, the Cabin Creek FS Campground
that will be Clave Central, hatch charts, etc. I got off the phone
with the owner of the Slide Inn a few minutes ago (sorry Randy Kane,
I interrupted him while he was emailing you g) and he said that he
may still have a few rooms available for July. He is in the process
of confirming the reservations he has and cancelling some here and
there. I would advise you to call ASAP if you are still looking for
a place to stay as I am sure they will go fast.

I have a new email addy in case you guys want to drop me an email
with your questions. The yahoo addy will still work, but my primary
email addy is now at earthlink.net . Email addy and link to the web
page are in my sig.

I am toying with the idea of going out on a little fishing expedition
tomorrow up to the where the Clave will be. Kelly said that there is
about 5' of snow at the Cabin Creek Campground but that the fishing
has been really good with midge patterns (some of the ones I gave him
that were the SJ patterns that Bruiser told me to tie up). If this
weather keeps up, we very well could be having the clave during high
water levels and stonefly hatches so be prepared for difficult wading
and kick ass fishing. It will all depend on how spring runoff goes,
which I have no control over. Hopefully runoff will be over and the
stoneflies will just be hatching while you guys are here. It is just
an incredible hatch that I think everyone should fish at least once
in their life.

Snowpacks are already pretty good and more snow is coming so it is
starting to look like it very well could be a really good year for
snowpacks around the state. This could mean later runoff, higher
river levels, much cooler water temps and several other good things.
I'm really looking forward to the fishing next year if this pattern
keeps up. The rivers should be in prime shape and make floating much
easier.

The list of attendees that I currently have is:
Dave Martel
Jeff Miller
IJ
Lou Teletski
Tom
Charlie Choc
Tim Lysyk ?
Danl & Cindy
RW

If your name isn't on this list, please drop me a line with your
intentions. It makes it much easier for me if I know roughly how
many people are coming.
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt (at) earthlink dot net to reply via email)
For Conclave Info:
http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html

Western Conclave Update

Mike M asks:
can I just throw a shiny hook out there and catch 20 inchers??

if said hook is attached to suitable stonefly nymph(possibly darker
variations), you can probably do as you do in the East. This from the limited
experiences I have stumbled through out West.
Tom

Western Conclave Update

ten.tsacmoc@alekamm wrote...
I'm giving it a good thought....put me on the list as tentative.
snipped bad mojo

Will do Mike.

Is the Slide Inn and/or other accommodations close to Clave Central? I
prefer to camp, but don't know if I want to have to deal with shipping all
of the camping crap or not.

All of the accommodations on the web page are close to Clave Central.

In terms of closeness:
Campfire Lodge (right across the road from the campground)
Slide Inn (very close and better accommodations than Campfire)
Howlin' Mad Moon Resorts (not far from the Slide Inn and looks ok)
Madison River Cabins & RV
West Fork Cabin & RV (about 13 or 14 miles down 287 from Clave
Central)
Wade Lake Cabins

If you want to camp, I can have gear waiting for you out here. Tent,
sleeping bag, can chare my cooking gear, etc.

Will also need a box, or four, or flies. I saw your links but which is the
best, and are the fish as selective to fly patterns, as compared to Penn's,
or can I just throw a shiny hook out there and catch 20 inchers??

The fish can be very selective at times and definitely aren't easy
enough to take a shiny hook. We very well could be fishing anything
from huge salmonfly dries (Sofa Pillows, Stimulators, etc) to SJ size
midge patterns depending on what is going on and where we will be
fishing. If you plan on tying your own flies, Remember that size and
colors are different from Penn's. I could send you examples of
certain flies you may want to have for the clave. The golden stones
that you had at Penn's should work out here and I am sure that a few
of your other flies will be useful as well.

Personally, I use the Bud Lilly and Madison River Outfitters hatch
charts the most for the Madison River. I labeled the others as
"Yellowstone" that are good for areas in the Park and the Yellowstone
River itself. Some of the fly shops also have fly tying info on
their web site that will give you an idea of size and color as well.
Another good place to check is Harry Mason's web site at:
http://www.troutflies.com/
Harry's site has very good pics as well as tutorials. If I wanted to
buy flies online for this clave, I would buy them from Harry. Not
only are his flies good but he has some experience with fishing in
this area and may be another good source of info.
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email)
For Conclave Info:
http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html