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Fred December 17th, 2009 05:31 AM

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Bad news
There is no Santa


Fred

[email protected] December 17th, 2009 06:01 AM

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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:20:45 -0800 (PST), DaveS wrote:

On Dec 16, 3:14*am, wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:13:44 -0800 (PST), DaveS wrote:
I will only comment on the waste bit. The two worst areas in the
country for medicare fraud by far, are Texas and Florida.


Please cite your source and the statistics to back up this statement.

HTH,
R


OK I'll try.


Er, OK - care to succeed? Please cite you source and the statistics to back up
your statement.

HTH,
R

DaveS December 17th, 2009 06:15 AM

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On Dec 16, 10:01*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:20:45 -0800 (PST), DaveS wrote:
On Dec 16, 3:14*am, wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:13:44 -0800 (PST), DaveS wrote:
I will only comment on the waste bit. The two worst areas in the
country for medicare fraud by far, are Texas and Florida.


Please cite your source and the statistics to back up this statement.


HTH,
R


OK I'll try.


Er, OK - care to succeed? *Please cite you source and the statistics to back up
your statement. *

HTH,
R


You are kidding?
Earth to Richard.
This just turned into the Phoenix whatisname/Letterman interview.
Richard parts of the story are all over the media for the last two
weeks.
Wakey wakey time

Mark Bowen December 17th, 2009 10:40 AM

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"Larry L" wrote in message
...
On Dec 14, 1:15 pm, Larry L wrote:
A week or so ago we got a "tried to deliver" notice in the mailbox. I
noticed it was from Edmonton Book Store and knew Santa had ordered one
of the books on fishing in Canada I asked forG

Santa put the notice back in the box with a specified delivery day on
it for the mailman to bring it back when we would be here to sign for
it.

It never showed up. Santa went to the post office and asked and they
couldn't find it "The carrier must have it." We asked the carrier
and he doesn't have it ... He "assumed we had picked it up at the post
office."

Thus, it appears that my .... out of print ..... X-mas gift book is
lost :-(

Bah Humbug


They found it G Seems it had gotten put into the registered
mail safe. The carrier had left it in the 'ordinary' mail to be
picked up location but someone else noticed it required a signature
for delivery and, thus, moved it to the safe with registered mail.

What this proves to me is that the US postal service works for better or
worse, as a competent postal worker took time and effort to protect the
valued property of a postal customer.

Though the book was misplaced for a time, it was not lost nor otherwise
pillfered, as was inferred by ROFF's own warmonger, material wealth
braggard, and hater of all things that are good and decent in life.

Chalk one up for the good guyz.
Life has meaning again!

Op



[email protected] December 17th, 2009 12:01 PM

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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:15:37 -0800 (PST), DaveS wrote:

On Dec 16, 10:01*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:20:45 -0800 (PST), DaveS wrote:
On Dec 16, 3:14*am, wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:13:44 -0800 (PST), DaveS wrote:
I will only comment on the waste bit. The two worst areas in the
country for medicare fraud by far, are Texas and Florida.


Please cite your source and the statistics to back up this statement.


HTH,
R


OK I'll try.


Er, OK - care to succeed? *Please cite you source and the statistics to back up
your statement. *

HTH,
R


You are kidding?
Earth to Richard.
This just turned into the Phoenix whatisname/Letterman interview.


Yeah, right, whatever you say there, Joachim...actually, thinking about it,
you'd make a better Farrah, what with that muumuu making your ass look so big...

Richard parts of the story are all over the media for the last two
weeks.
Wakey wakey time


It's pretty simple - just cite the source and stats that back up your statement
- you made it, so you can back it up, right....? I looked at your cites and,
hell, the first one didn't even contain the name of _any_ state, two talked
about arrests in Florida, New York, and Michigan, and task forces there as well
as Texas and Louisiana, but none gave anything remotely resembling stats to back
your claim. So, put up or shut up - cite the source and stats that back your
statement.

****, I'll even grant you that Florida is _likely_ a state with a large amount
of Medicare fraud, given the fact it has a large population overall, much of it
concentrated into urban(ized) areas, a large population of Medicare-aged folks,
a large of population of part-time residents, a relatively high cost of living
in many areas, etc., etc., etc. But that's just an educated opinion - I cannot
say for sure where Florida ranks among all the states as to Medicare fraud. I
would guess California, Texas and New York are also up there in the rankings,
too, and North Dakota, Vermont, and Wyoming are probably pretty low. IAC, none
of the above factors, that would seemingly make Florida "fertile ground" for
fraud, has anything to do with politics, party or otherwise.

HTH,
R

David LaCourse December 17th, 2009 12:41 PM

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On 2009-12-17 05:40:22 -0500, "Mark Bowen" said:


Though the book was misplaced for a time, it was not lost nor otherwise
pillfered, as was inferred by ROFF's own warmonger, material wealth
braggard, and hater of all things that are good and decent in life.


LOL. Warmonger? Yeah, mia culpa, along with your hero Obama.
Material wealth braggard? Yeah, to show a certain bigot that if I was
edumacated (like you, hahahaha) I'd be worth at least twice what I am
now. Hater of all things that are good and decent in life? Prove it.
I pay back to society with my time, talents and treasures. What do you
do? Oh, yeah, I remember: The fat drunkard in the tutu. d;o)

Chalk one up for the good guyz.


Yep, the Postal Service are the good guys. Could not agree more. But
they are government and the government never does anything right.
Freddie, Fannie, AmTrac, etc.

Life has meaning again!


You found a bigger tutu? Great. Now your big fat ass will look like,
well, uh, well......... a big fat ass.

Op


I rest my case on the little boy in Carolina.

Davey, who hopes that Santa brings the little boy a Superman Fishing
Pole for Christmas.






DaveS December 17th, 2009 05:15 PM

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On Dec 17, 4:01*am, wrote:

Typical. Whenever you come up a piker, you spin a big turd of denial.
All indications are that South Florida and Houston, Texas are the
nexus of Medicare fraud. My cites for that offer more fact than any 20
of your posts.

And any one digging into this stuff will eventually run into the
political associations which go back 20 plus years and include Jeb
Bush's association with Miguel Recarey(associated with the Trafficante
mafia family), and considered one of the biggest Medicare fraudsters
ever, right up to the present. (I am keeping an eye on the current GOP
corruption scandals in Georgia). And then there is Senator Bill Frist
(R), companies, found guilty of extensive Medicare "overbilling"/fraud
and required to pay back hundreds of millions to the taxpayers. My
guess is you probably "overlooked" that in your extensive studies of
this issue.

Without a doubt some Demo politicians will be caught up in the Obama
Medicare Fraud crackdown. However, in Florida and in Texas, which
history and the current state of play say are the worst places in the
country for abuse of medicare, and the involvement of organized
crime, its the GOP pols. You might sniff around some of your
Mississippi "family values boys" cause the Fraud Task force will get
to Mississippi sooner or later and people WILL go to jail.

Your original post was such an embarrassing mish-mash as to defy a
serious response. Its not even clear if you understand the difference
between medicare and medicaid. I actually thought that fighting fraud
where most of it was occurring was something that rational people
agree on. Any reasonable person could learn much from the cites I
provided to back up my post. You should try to do that yourself some
day.

Dave
And by the way, your last para indicates you only scanned the cites,
poorly.

[email protected] December 18th, 2009 01:38 PM

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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:15:14 -0800 (PST), DaveS wrote:

On Dec 17, 4:01*am, wrote:

Typical. Whenever you come up a piker, you spin a big turd of denial.
All indications are that South Florida and Houston, Texas are the
nexus of Medicare fraud. My cites for that offer more fact than any 20
of your posts.

And any one digging into this stuff will eventually run into the
political associations which go back 20 plus years and include Jeb
Bush's association with Miguel Recarey(associated with the Trafficante
mafia family), and considered one of the biggest Medicare fraudsters
ever, right up to the present. (I am keeping an eye on the current GOP
corruption scandals in Georgia). And then there is Senator Bill Frist
(R), companies, found guilty of extensive Medicare "overbilling"/fraud
and required to pay back hundreds of millions to the taxpayers. My
guess is you probably "overlooked" that in your extensive studies of
this issue.

Without a doubt some Demo politicians will be caught up in the Obama
Medicare Fraud crackdown. However, in Florida and in Texas, which
history and the current state of play say are the worst places in the
country for abuse of medicare, and the involvement of organized
crime, its the GOP pols. You might sniff around some of your
Mississippi "family values boys" cause the Fraud Task force will get
to Mississippi sooner or later and people WILL go to jail.

Your original post was such an embarrassing mish-mash as to defy a
serious response. Its not even clear if you understand the difference
between medicare and medicaid. I actually thought that fighting fraud
where most of it was occurring was something that rational people
agree on. Any reasonable person could learn much from the cites I
provided to back up my post. You should try to do that yourself some
day.

Dave
And by the way, your last para indicates you only scanned the cites,
poorly.


Well, you're just too good an investigator to try and hide it from you - that's
the whole reason for the existence of the GOP - so the leaders can get rich from
scooter fraud and shoe insert switcheroos...they got that and military contract
rigging and the Dems got welfare skimming and campaign donation rackets...

I'll make really simple: can you or can't you cite _any_ verifiable data
whatsoever that shows Medicare fraud by state?

You keep going, and you're gonna turn yourself inside out...but hey, at least
your muumuu won't make your ass look quite so big...

If you can't cite any good data, I'm done,
R

Giles December 18th, 2009 04:22 PM

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On Dec 18, 7:38*am, wrote:
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:15:14 -0800 (PST), DaveS wrote:
On Dec 17, 4:01*am, wrote:


Typical. Whenever you come up a piker, you spin a big turd of denial.
All indications are that South Florida and Houston, Texas are the
nexus of Medicare fraud. My cites for that offer more fact than any 20
of your posts.


And any one digging into this stuff will eventually run into the
political associations which go back 20 plus years and include Jeb
Bush's association with Miguel Recarey(associated with the Trafficante
mafia family), and considered one of the biggest Medicare fraudsters
ever, right up to the present. (I am keeping an eye on the current GOP
corruption scandals in Georgia). And then there is Senator Bill Frist
(R), companies, found guilty of extensive Medicare "overbilling"/fraud
and required to pay back hundreds of millions to the taxpayers. My
guess is you probably "overlooked" that in your extensive studies of
this issue.


Without a doubt some Demo politicians will be caught up in the Obama
Medicare Fraud crackdown. However, in Florida and in Texas, which
history and the current state of play say are the worst places in the
country for abuse of medicare, and the involvement of organized
crime, *its the GOP pols. You might sniff around some of your
Mississippi "family values boys" cause the Fraud Task force will get
to Mississippi sooner or later and people WILL go to jail.


Your original post was such an embarrassing mish-mash as to defy a
serious response. Its not even clear if you understand the difference
between medicare and medicaid. I actually thought that fighting fraud
where most of it was occurring was something that rational people
agree on. Any reasonable person could learn much from the cites I
provided to back up my post. You should try to do that yourself some
day.


Dave
And by the way, your last para indicates you only scanned the cites,
poorly.


Well, you're just too good an investigator to try and hide it from you - that's
the whole reason for the existence of the GOP - so the leaders can get rich from
scooter fraud and shoe insert switcheroos...they got that and military contract
rigging and the Dems got welfare skimming and campaign donation rackets....

I'll make really simple: can you or can't you cite _any_ verifiable data
whatsoever that shows Medicare fraud by state?

You keep going, and you're gonna turn yourself inside out...but hey, at least
your muumuu won't make your ass look quite so big...


Idiot.

If you can't cite any good data, I'm done,


You've been done so long you wouldn't be able to remember anything you
had to say even in the exceedingly unlikely event that you ever did.

goddamn, you are pathetic.

g.

DaveS December 18th, 2009 07:07 PM

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On Dec 18, 5:38*am, wrote:
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:15:14 -0800 (PST), DaveS wrote:
On Dec 17, 4:01*am, wrote:


Typical. Whenever you come up a piker, you spin a big turd of denial.
All indications are that South Florida and Houston, Texas are the
nexus of Medicare fraud. My cites for that offer more fact than any 20
of your posts.


And any one digging into this stuff will eventually run into the
political associations which go back 20 plus years and include Jeb
Bush's association with Miguel Recarey(associated with the Trafficante
mafia family), and considered one of the biggest Medicare fraudsters
ever, right up to the present. (I am keeping an eye on the current GOP
corruption scandals in Georgia). And then there is Senator Bill Frist
(R), companies, found guilty of extensive Medicare "overbilling"/fraud
and required to pay back hundreds of millions to the taxpayers. My
guess is you probably "overlooked" that in your extensive studies of
this issue.


Without a doubt some Demo politicians will be caught up in the Obama
Medicare Fraud crackdown. However, in Florida and in Texas, which
history and the current state of play say are the worst places in the
country for abuse of medicare, and the involvement of organized
crime, *its the GOP pols. You might sniff around some of your
Mississippi "family values boys" cause the Fraud Task force will get
to Mississippi sooner or later and people WILL go to jail.


Your original post was such an embarrassing mish-mash as to defy a
serious response. Its not even clear if you understand the difference
between medicare and medicaid. I actually thought that fighting fraud
where most of it was occurring was something that rational people
agree on. Any reasonable person could learn much from the cites I
provided to back up my post. You should try to do that yourself some
day.


Dave
And by the way, your last para indicates you only scanned the cites,
poorly.


Well, you're just too good an investigator to try and hide it from you - that's
the whole reason for the existence of the GOP - so the leaders can get rich from
scooter fraud and shoe insert switcheroos...they got that and military contract
rigging and the Dems got welfare skimming and campaign donation rackets....

I'll make really simple: can you or can't you cite _any_ verifiable data
whatsoever that shows Medicare fraud by state?

You keep going, and you're gonna turn yourself inside out...but hey, at least
your muumuu won't make your ass look quite so big...

If you can't cite any good data, I'm done,
R- Hide quoted text -

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Did already, you just don't like me laying it on the GOP. Gave you the
start on a ****ing dissertation if you actually read it. The thievery
is Billions and even when GW tried to cut it back a little, its been
certain Rs who come out of the woodwork to block for the criminals who
I believe pay them. Can't deny Senator Frisk's companies' $600 million
little scams can you? Or Jeb Bush's association with Miguel Recarey.
Oh, and there IS one Demo for sure who I also suspect is tight with
the thieves. Your guess?

But the most insulting disregard of the American people in this whole
health care debate was for the GOP to knowingly pretend that Obama's
attack on medicare fraud, particularly in Florida and Texas, was a
"cut in health care for the elderly." Whatever drunk son of a bitch
traitor who came up with that idea will spend some extra time in the
devil's care, and I will try to do my share to fight these America
hating cocksuckers.

You and I should stick to art, fishing and land because we don't seem
to be able to discuss civilly anything else. Poles apart. And ****can
that mumu stuff or I'll respond in kind and make you cry.

Dave


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