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Dave LaCourse June 16th, 2004 02:25 AM

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Allen Eps writes:



E. Dave has been on welfare for virtually all of his adult life.

snipped

So, who's got a problem with that? :)

Wolfgang


Wolfie,
I'm pretty sure a 20 + year career in the Navy doing SIGINT ain't
welfare.

The other stuff we'll just disagree on and leave it that as I've
decided it's futile to try a persons politics, operating system or
taste in beer.

Allen


So wolfie thinks I've been on welfare all of my adult life? Now, *that* is
funny. That's probably what is wrong with our system; my "welfare" checks have
made me a millionaire a couple of times over. Ya gotta love *those* kinds of
social programs.

BTW, I plonked wolfie many many months ago, so I don't see his posts. But that
one must have been a phunny one.
Dave

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Wolfgang June 16th, 2004 02:39 AM

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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
...I plonked wolfie many many months ago....


Ah yes, if ya can't nuke 'em hide from 'em. The military mind......shrewd!

Wolfgang
.....in the navy!......dum de dum dum dum dum dum.... :)
BOO!



[email protected] June 16th, 2004 02:52 AM

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On 16 Jun 2004 01:25:31 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse)
wrote:
...checks have made me a millionaire a couple of times over....


UNCLE LOUIE!!! Can y'all show lil' ol' me how to tie a knot...a Hermes
scarf would be SUCH a dreamy teaching tool...

Viper

Frank Reid June 16th, 2004 03:19 AM

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E. Dave has been on welfare for virtually all of his adult life.
Wolfie,
I'm pretty sure a 20 + year career in the Navy doing SIGINT ain't
welfare.


Hm......I guess we just disagree on that one.


Hold it. I got a dog in this fight, so I'll stop counting my food stamps
(green ones with Jefferson on them, not them ones with the "Great
Communicablator" on them) and chime in.
Number 1: These folks on welfare, they supposed to work?
Number 2: Are you defining "welfare" as any gubmint job, or just the
military life? So, like, air traffic controllers are also on welfare, or
not? I understand "providing for the welfare of," but not being "on
welfare."
Number 3: How 'bout the "quasi military" kinda things, like CIA and DIA and
all the rest of those intel guys. The FBI?
Number 4: How 'bout people taking gubmint grants? For research and the
like?
Number 5: How 'bout people who only have a job because of the gubmint?
Like lawyers (if it twern't for them danged laws, enforced by the gubmint,
we wouldn't have 'em danged lawyers)

See, you're using "welfare" as a trigger word. You throw it at some one who
takes pride in the fact that he has provided for his family, some one to
whom being the recipient of charity is as low as they can personally sink,
emasculating. Would you be so base as to attempt this, knowing the outcome?
Intentionally trying to emasculate one, and in the process, intentionally
trying to inflict collateral damage on many others with a similiar
background? You can't hurt yourself with these words (even though you were
in the same, albeit a bit smaller, boat), but many others can take offense,
especially when you question their life's purpose.
Kenny, in an altogether different thread, Kenny, the guy who's to the left
of communists (hyperbole here), is outraged at Opie for allegedly breaking a
law. And then in this thread, you compare the compensation given to someone
who's made it his life's work defending those laws, national and internation
al, to the social security given to my handicapped brother. My brother,
who, even though illiterate and so crippled he can barely walk 50 feet, has
decided to become the dispatcher for the local volunteer fire department,
just so he can feel a bit better than a charity case.
You've created a barrier to communication with the choice of words. Most
would not try to delve into the concepts inherint in your remark, but
rather, become defensive and attempt to return the pain. I don't know you
all that awful well, some time fishing together, tag team wrasslin' a
bear... So I gotta ask ya, do you really want to continue in this vein,
intentionally ****in' folks off instead of letting them hear your Rush
Limbaugh wanna-be ideas, perhaps even converting a few? You feel lucky
punk? Do ya? (plagerized hyperbole)

--
Frank Reid
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Stan Gula June 16th, 2004 12:07 PM

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...
way loads of snippage - can't believe I read this far...
I'll give you marks for originality on this one. I have never, to the

best
of my knowledge, been compared to Rush Limbaugh before.


We were less interested in your political leanings than the eerily similar
cheezy beards.



Wayne Harrison June 16th, 2004 12:10 PM

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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
wayno writes:

i'm sorry, but anyone who has ever caught a smallie the same length as
a trout or landlocked salmon will tell you that he *loves* to catch
smallmouth bass. what's the big deal?


I can't believe you don't know. Bass are a warm water fish and will eat a
fishery to death of all its trout/salman. The Rapid *was* a cold water

fishery
without bass. They were illegally introduced to Umbagog in the mid 80s.

Maine
has a problem with Bubbuhs who think that bass and pike are more important

than
the native fish.


truth is, louie, i didn't realize that smallmouth bass and pike weren't
"native" to maine.

Nothing wrong with fishing for bass using any rig you want,
but there is a problem when you try to protect one of the greatest Brook

Trout
streams in the country and some asshole introduces bass.


hey, i ain't trying to be combative; just trying to understand. am i
wrong by surmising that if the water is colder than the smallies can handle,
they won't survive, or at least they wouldn't become the dominant species.
thus, it would appear that the villain here is whoever is responsible for
the change in water temp, not ol bubba...

You have your
unspoiled Hazel.


you know, there has been (still may be) considerable rumblings about
taking all the rainbows and browns out of hazel and returning it to its
native state--nothing but brookies. if i were four or five years old, i
might not mind that idea coming to fruition. however, it would take longer
to develop than i likely have to fish, and i am too selfish to lose my time
there.

I have my Rapid which is quickly becoming spoiled. Imagine
bass and pike in Hazel eating all those rainbows and browns. Would you

stand
for it?


well, no doubt i would be ****ed. still, that is a very unlikely
scenario, since there is nothing that anyone could do to raise (or lower)
the water temp in hazel. there are plenty of bass and pike around the mouth
of hazel, btw. but i think my response to any sort of undesirable change
would be to look up a couple of my politically influential republican
friends (that *is* possible, you know) and set them loose on the local
congressman. far more effective than having a "fish in", imho.


Fish for the bass instead?

if they were in there, their asses would be fished for...

yfitons
wayno



Wolfgang June 16th, 2004 01:37 PM

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"Stan Gula" wrote in message
...
"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...
way loads of snippage - can't believe I read this far...
I'll give you marks for originality on this one. I have never, to

the
best
of my knowledge, been compared to Rush Limbaugh before.


We were less interested in your political leanings than the eerily

similar
cheezy beards.


Ah. I wasn't aware that Mr. Limbaugh was sporting a beard. I watched
a segment of his TV show a few years ago. Aside from a mild interest
in the phenomenon of a mediocre hate monger pandering to a slavering
collection of idiots I found both the show and its host dull. I
haven't paid much attention since then. Anyway, I shaved my beard and
cut off about 80% of my hair a couple of weeks ago. Unless the pig
has done likewise, it should once again be pretty easy to tell us
apart.

Wolfgang



Dave LaCourse June 16th, 2004 01:43 PM

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wayno writes:

truth is, louie, i didn't realize that smallmouth bass and pike weren't
"native" to maine.


But they *are* native to Maine. They are *not*, however, native to the Rapid
River. An illegal stocking of Umbagog in 1984 introduced them to the river.

Nothing wrong with fishing for bass using any rig you want,
but there is a problem when you try to protect one of the greatest Brook

Trout
streams in the country and some asshole introduces bass.


hey, i ain't trying to be combative; just trying to understand. am i
wrong by surmising that if the water is colder than the smallies can handle,
they won't survive, or at least they wouldn't become the dominant species.
thus, it would appear that the villain here is whoever is responsible for
the change in water temp, not ol bubba...


Duhhhhh! That has been my complaint all along, wayno. The bubbahs introduced
the fish to Umbagog, the body of water the Rapid empties into. It is a warm
water lake with maximum depth about 20 feet. Florida Power and Light (FPL) has
been running the dams for the past four years and have done a terrible job of
it. The water flow in the Rapid today is 390 cfs, little more than a trickle.
(The dam is not a deep water one, drawing water from only about 30 feet, so it
isn't that cold to begin with.) The bass were not a problem when Union Power
owned the dam. They managed the water levels in the Rangeleys far more
efficiently than FPL has. Return the Rapid to a cold water stream (increase
the flow to normal levels in the spring and summer), and most of the bass
problem will go away.

One of the problems is that most of the "concerned" conservationists are in bed
with FPL, with TU being the master whore.


You have your
unspoiled Hazel.


you know, there has been (still may be) considerable rumblings about
taking all the rainbows and browns out of hazel and returning it to its
native state--nothing but brookies. if i were four or five years old, i
might not mind that idea coming to fruition. however, it would take longer
to develop than i likely have to fish, and i am too selfish to lose my time
there.


That would be too bad if they did. It would be a good thing for the stream
(eventually), but would hurt alot of folks who love it as it is.


I have my Rapid which is quickly becoming spoiled. Imagine
bass and pike in Hazel eating all those rainbows and browns. Would you

stand
for it?


well, no doubt i would be ****ed. still, that is a very unlikely
scenario, since there is nothing that anyone could do to raise (or lower)
the water temp in hazel. there are plenty of bass and pike around the mouth
of hazel, btw. but i think my response to any sort of undesirable change
would be to look up a couple of my politically influential republican
friends (that *is* possible, you know) and set them loose on the local
congressman. far more effective than having a "fish in", imho.


I don't think that anyone expected the "fish-in" to have a great impact on the
problem. But it *did* get lots of possitive publicity, and therein lies its
effectiveness.


Fish for the bass instead?

if they were in there, their asses would be fished for...


There are plenty of places in Maine to fish for bass. In fact, bass fishing in
Maine is considered very good. Lots of ponds and lakes to grow big 'uns.
Illegal stocking has become a problem not only in the Rapid, but in other
rivers/lakes in Maine. You will always have that lunatic fringe who think they
know what is best for a waterway. The same thing has happened out west with
the illegal stocking of laketrout. Once a species gets into a watershed, it is
difficult to get them out.

yfitons
wayno


Still waiting for you and yours to come up and fish. Think about
September..........
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html








Scott Seidman June 16th, 2004 01:46 PM

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Frank Reid wrote in news:capcbs$9i8$1
@newslocal.mitre.org:

No one was killed directly by the disgusting
actions of some,


Actually, I think some prison deaths are very likely to be ruled homicides

Scott

Frank Reid June 16th, 2004 01:58 PM

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No one was killed directly by the disgusting
actions of some,



Actually, I think some prison deaths are very likely to be ruled homicides

Scott


If that does indeed happen, and there are convictions (military is at
about the 90% rate on convictions for charges filed), I'll retract that.
--
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