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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:48:15 -0600, Willi wrote:



Jeff Miller wrote:

soylent green?

Actually it's pretty close! One of the main ingredients of fish pellets
is fish!

Oh-oh...can mad fish disease be far behind...or is that mad-fish
disease...?

HTH,
Charlatan Heston
"...from my cold, dead hands, you miserable ape...soylent green is
tablets! Stone tablets!"

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Willi wrote:


To me, they have the texture of mush and have as much flavor. But maybe
you do have the secret to cooking them. You'll have to cook some up for
me sometime and maybe I'll change my mind.\

My neighbor and good friend from across the street just dropped off
about ten pounds of fresh Alaskan sockeye salmon fillets, flown into
town right from the source -- a total surprise. Now I have to use them
up. I'll invite some people over for dinner tomorrow.


They probably have a better diet than wild fish.



Better diet?

Reminds me of a bad 60's Sci Fi flick with people eating a couple pills
for a meal.

When a fish (or any other animal) eats protein it's digested into amino
acids, which are rather simple molecules. The amino acids are
reassembled into protein (i.e., flesh). I think Purina Trout Chow is
probably as healthy a diet as a trout can have.

Personally, I prefer the Purina Caddis brand of pellets. It's an easy
tie. :-)

I eat some wild trout and lots of stockers. I don't notice any
consistent difference, except that the stockers are always OK and the
wild fish are highly variable.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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David Snedeker wrote:

Folks interested in the area might also be interested that Ringwood State
Park, in the nearby Ramapo "Mountains" (a ridge actually) was the estate of
Edward Hewitt. Hewitt is right up there with Theodore Gordon and George La
Branche as a pioneer of American dry fly fishing. In 1948 at age 80, he
published "A Trout and Salmon Fisherman for Seventy-five Years," which I
highly recommend. The '48 book included rewrites of Hewitt's 1922 and 1926
books as well write ups of all his scientific and practical work on trout
behavior and habitat.

I've got a copy of 'Telling on the Trout' somewhere. A good read. Is
that one of the books reworked for "A Trout and Salmon Fisherman for
Seventy-five Years"?

Hewitt's life bridged the frontier era, to the Atomic age. The Ramapo and
the Ringwood Rivers were some of Hewitt's streams, and important venues in
the early history of American Fly Fishing. What a great place to catch a
first fly caught trout.

Another of Hewitt's waters was the stretch on the Neversink--later
inundated as part of LaGuardia (Neversink) Reservoir--that figured
prominently in SGH's "Fishless Days, Angling Nights." A couple of cool
pictures (a photo and what looks like an etching) of Hewitt fishing that
water in "FD,AN." Hewitt's books on stream improvement and on rearing and
stocking trout had a large influence on what hatchery-dependent trout
fishing looks like today in the Northeast U.S.

JR

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David Snedeker wrote:

Folks interested in the area might also be interested that Ringwood State
Park, in the nearby Ramapo "Mountains" (a ridge actually) was the estate of
Edward Hewitt. Hewitt is right up there with Theodore Gordon and George La
Branche as a pioneer of American dry fly fishing. In 1948 at age 80, he
published "A Trout and Salmon Fisherman for Seventy-five Years," which I
highly recommend. The '48 book included rewrites of Hewitt's 1922 and 1926
books as well write ups of all his scientific and practical work on trout
behavior and habitat.

I've got a copy of 'Telling on the Trout' somewhere. A good read. Is
that one of the books reworked for "A Trout and Salmon Fisherman for
Seventy-five Years"?

Hewitt's life bridged the frontier era, to the Atomic age. The Ramapo and
the Ringwood Rivers were some of Hewitt's streams, and important venues in
the early history of American Fly Fishing. What a great place to catch a
first fly caught trout.

Another of Hewitt's waters was the stretch on the Neversink--later
inundated as part of LaGuardia (Neversink) Reservoir--that figured
prominently in SGH's "Fishless Days, Angling Nights." A couple of cool
pictures (a photo and what looks like an etching) of Hewitt fishing that
water in "FD,AN." Hewitt's books on stream improvement and on rearing and
stocking trout had a large influence on what hatchery-dependent trout
fishing looks like today in the Northeast U.S.

JR

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David Snedeker wrote:

"JR" wrote
.......

On Hewitt and the hatchery culture . . . while acknowledging that without
'em there would be a lot less trout fishing in some of these states, my gut
still recoils. I'd like to see less money in hatcheries out here, but back
east . . . I don't know.

Agreed on all counts. He had considerable influence, whether you think
the resulting state of affairs is good, bad or mixed. We know a lot more
now than was known a half century ago and I would like to think folks in
the West can find ways to replicate what's worth replicating, modify what
needs modification and avoid altogether the outright mistakes. To claw
back appreciable stretches of wild trout habitat in the East, though,
would require an almost society-scale rethinking of people's relationship
to the natural world. Hell, we're far from that in the West, just
trying to save what hasn't already been lost.

Hey, get well. You are our only guy in Rome. Which leads me to this
question: Is it possible to catch a 6:20am flite out of Leonardo d'Vinci, if
you sleep in Orvieto the nite before? Is it possible if you sleep in town? .
. . or what would you recommend?

Orvieto I don't know. From town no problem at all, by calling the night
before and booking a cab. To sleep better (i.e., to not worry about
whether the taxi is actually going to show up) your hotel can arrange it.
If you're flying to the U.S., you'd have to leave town a bit before 4:00
am. Another option, if you're going to be spending the night before in a
hotel anyway, is to sleep at the airport. There's a perfectly fine Hilton
there. The flight I usually take to the U.S. leaves at 10:30 and because
I don't have a car but am usually carrying a load of baggage, gifts and
stuff, I use a great limo service (always an immaculate black Mercedes)
for about the same price as a cab (€40), but they--like the subway/train--
don't start until 6:00am.

When you thinking of coming? I haven't heard of any really notable shows
coming up, I'll look into it if you want.

JR

first rainbow on fly
 

David Snedeker wrote:

"JR" wrote
.......

On Hewitt and the hatchery culture . . . while acknowledging that without
'em there would be a lot less trout fishing in some of these states, my gut
still recoils. I'd like to see less money in hatcheries out here, but back
east . . . I don't know.

Agreed on all counts. He had considerable influence, whether you think
the resulting state of affairs is good, bad or mixed. We know a lot more
now than was known a half century ago and I would like to think folks in
the West can find ways to replicate what's worth replicating, modify what
needs modification and avoid altogether the outright mistakes. To claw
back appreciable stretches of wild trout habitat in the East, though,
would require an almost society-scale rethinking of people's relationship
to the natural world. Hell, we're far from that in the West, just
trying to save what hasn't already been lost.

Hey, get well. You are our only guy in Rome. Which leads me to this
question: Is it possible to catch a 6:20am flite out of Leonardo d'Vinci, if
you sleep in Orvieto the nite before? Is it possible if you sleep in town? .
. . or what would you recommend?

Orvieto I don't know. From town no problem at all, by calling the night
before and booking a cab. To sleep better (i.e., to not worry about
whether the taxi is actually going to show up) your hotel can arrange it.
If you're flying to the U.S., you'd have to leave town a bit before 4:00
am. Another option, if you're going to be spending the night before in a
hotel anyway, is to sleep at the airport. There's a perfectly fine Hilton
there. The flight I usually take to the U.S. leaves at 10:30 and because
I don't have a car but am usually carrying a load of baggage, gifts and
stuff, I use a great limo service (always an immaculate black Mercedes)
for about the same price as a cab (€40), but they--like the subway/train--
don't start until 6:00am.

When you thinking of coming? I haven't heard of any really notable shows
coming up, I'll look into it if you want.

JR

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David Snedeker wrote:

Thanks for advise. Interested in Italian modernists, 1900-1940 or so.

Well, that makes one of us... g Still, lots of it around.

Will go to Email on above.

OK. God knows, unless we want to sling ****, there's no sense
distracting folks from the Swift boat bloat. ;)

Try: JohndotRussellatnotthisfaodotorg

JR