I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Tim J." wrote...
I don't think I'd be blowing streams of Marlboro smoke in someone's
face unless I was ready and willing to get down to bidness, but
maybe that's just me. I *would*, however, flick a cigarette butt in
their general direction without fear of repercussion. Then again,
both of these would be reliant on being a smoker, and I'm not *that*
stupid. ;-) --

The part that grates my nerve so much is where li'l kennie trashes
one of our most sacred fishin' grounds by litterin' it with a
cigarette butt! While I am stupid enough to smoke, ALL my cigarette
butts are accounted for at the end of the day and disposed of
properly.

What about it li'l kennie, was this on National Forest land? Did you
actually LITTER in one of OUR National Forests?

Mark --this is serious fellas, li'l kennies a litterbug I tell ya!--

It's okay, Mark. He scouted the area first via ATV. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Tim J." wrote...
I don't think I'd be blowing streams of Marlboro smoke in someone's
face unless I was ready and willing to get down to bidness, but
maybe that's just me. I *would*, however, flick a cigarette butt in
their general direction without fear of repercussion. Then again,
both of these would be reliant on being a smoker, and I'm not *that*
stupid. ;-) --

The part that grates my nerve so much is where li'l kennie trashes
one of our most sacred fishin' grounds by litterin' it with a
cigarette butt! While I am stupid enough to smoke, ALL my cigarette
butts are accounted for at the end of the day and disposed of
properly.

What about it li'l kennie, was this on National Forest land? Did you
actually LITTER in one of OUR National Forests?

Mark --this is serious fellas, li'l kennies a litterbug I tell ya!--

It's okay, Mark. He scouted the area first via ATV. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

"jminpa" wrote in message
...
All this stuff is just to keep newbies away from claves, right?

Yeah........doesn't work worth **** though.

You should'a been here the first time I got invited to North Carolina.
:(

Wolfgang
who still wakes up with the sweats in the wee hours.

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

"jminpa" wrote in message
...
All this stuff is just to keep newbies away from claves, right?

Yeah........doesn't work worth **** though.

You should'a been here the first time I got invited to North Carolina.
:(

Wolfgang
who still wakes up with the sweats in the wee hours.

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

"jminpa" wrote in message
...
All this stuff is just to keep newbies away from claves, right?

Yeah........doesn't work worth **** though.

You should'a been here the first time I got invited to North Carolina.
:(

Wolfgang
who still wakes up with the sweats in the wee hours.

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

rw wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
I'm all for avoiding silliness.

You are the personification of silliness, especially with that goofy hat
of yours.

That was a damn good "summer in the Rockies" hat. Unlike a baseball
cap it protected the top of my ears from burning and peeling.

Unfortunately, the mesh in the crown allowed a good deal of sunburn
on the burgeoning bald spot on top of my pate, so that hat has been
retired.

--
Ken Fortenberry

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

rw wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
I'm all for avoiding silliness.

You are the personification of silliness, especially with that goofy hat
of yours.

That was a damn good "summer in the Rockies" hat. Unlike a baseball
cap it protected the top of my ears from burning and peeling.

Unfortunately, the mesh in the crown allowed a good deal of sunburn
on the burgeoning bald spot on top of my pate, so that hat has been
retired.

--
Ken Fortenberry

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

Tom Littleton wrote:
jminpa notes:
All this stuff is just to keep newbies away from claves, right?

not to worry, all that happens is that Fortenberry stays away. No one seems to
notice, either.

Hmmm. OK then, I guess I won't be needing a cabin space next May.
(Never argue with a Clavemeister ;-).

--
Ken Fortenberry

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

Tom Littleton wrote:
jminpa notes:
All this stuff is just to keep newbies away from claves, right?

not to worry, all that happens is that Fortenberry stays away. No one seems to
notice, either.

Hmmm. OK then, I guess I won't be needing a cabin space next May.
(Never argue with a Clavemeister ;-).

--
Ken Fortenberry

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Tom Littleton wrote:
jminpa notes:
All this stuff is just to keep newbies away from claves, right?

not to worry, all that happens is that Fortenberry stays away. No
one seems to notice, either.

Hmmm. OK then, I guess I won't be needing a cabin space next May.
(Never argue with a Clavemeister ;-).

Not to be contrary, but I'd like to fish with you at a clave. I know that
sentiment is going to bring whatever comments others feel necessary, but it's
true. Regardless if "real" or "virtual" personas differ, I think you need to get
yer ass to a clave as well to put some reality back in this place.

I'll even let you flick a cigarette butt in my general direction. :)
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Tom Littleton wrote:
jminpa notes:
All this stuff is just to keep newbies away from claves, right?

not to worry, all that happens is that Fortenberry stays away. No
one seems to notice, either.

Hmmm. OK then, I guess I won't be needing a cabin space next May.
(Never argue with a Clavemeister ;-).

Not to be contrary, but I'd like to fish with you at a clave. I know that
sentiment is going to bring whatever comments others feel necessary, but it's
true. Regardless if "real" or "virtual" personas differ, I think you need to get
yer ass to a clave as well to put some reality back in this place.

I'll even let you flick a cigarette butt in my general direction. :)
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

"Tim J." wrote in message
news:hTI4d.96706$MQ5.55820@attbi_s52...
Not to be contrary, but I'd like to fish with you at a clave. I know that sentiment
is going to bring whatever comments others feel necessary, but it's true. Regardless
if "real" or "virtual" personas differ, I think you need to get yer ass to a clave
as well to put some reality back in this place.

I'll even let you flick a cigarette butt in my general direction. :)
--
TL,
Tim

I'm with you Tim! I'd just love to see li'l kennie at a 'clave; but , if you expect
"reality" from li'l kennie, you'll be sadly disappointed.

Mark

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

"Tim J." wrote in message
news:hTI4d.96706$MQ5.55820@attbi_s52...
Not to be contrary, but I'd like to fish with you at a clave. I know that sentiment
is going to bring whatever comments others feel necessary, but it's true. Regardless
if "real" or "virtual" personas differ, I think you need to get yer ass to a clave
as well to put some reality back in this place.

I'll even let you flick a cigarette butt in my general direction. :)
--
TL,
Tim

I'm with you Tim! I'd just love to see li'l kennie at a 'clave; but , if you expect
"reality" from li'l kennie, you'll be sadly disappointed.

Mark

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

I don´t know anything at all about hatches in the Rockies, more´s the pity,
but I do know that this group deteriorates more with every passing insult
and bitterness that is published here. Any "outsider", and most "insiders"
reading this stuff would have to be crazy to want to have any part of it.

The only thing that really puzzles me, is, what is the point of it all? Is
there any point at all?

Once upon a time, I laboured under the quite obviously massive
misapprehension that anglers were gentlemen. This group has certainly
taught me the error of my ways.

The insults, and the flames, and all the other similar stuff here is bad
enough, but what eventually simply wears one out, even just reading the
stuff, is that it is mostly silly and boring, and has virtually nothing to
do with fishing, or with gentlemen either.

Most unfortunate, and extremely depressing to boot.

MC

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

I don´t know anything at all about hatches in the Rockies, more´s the pity,
but I do know that this group deteriorates more with every passing insult
and bitterness that is published here. Any "outsider", and most "insiders"
reading this stuff would have to be crazy to want to have any part of it.

The only thing that really puzzles me, is, what is the point of it all? Is
there any point at all?

Once upon a time, I laboured under the quite obviously massive
misapprehension that anglers were gentlemen. This group has certainly
taught me the error of my ways.

The insults, and the flames, and all the other similar stuff here is bad
enough, but what eventually simply wears one out, even just reading the
stuff, is that it is mostly silly and boring, and has virtually nothing to
do with fishing, or with gentlemen either.

Most unfortunate, and extremely depressing to boot.

MC

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

"Mike Connor" wrote in message
...
I don´t know anything at all about hatches in the Rockies, more´s the pity,
but I do know that this group deteriorates more with every passing insult
and bitterness that is published here. Any "outsider", and most "insiders"
reading this stuff would have to be crazy to want to have any part of it.

The only thing that really puzzles me, is, what is the point of it all? Is
there any point at all?

Once upon a time, I laboured under the quite obviously massive
misapprehension that anglers were gentlemen. This group has certainly
taught me the error of my ways.

The insults, and the flames, and all the other similar stuff here is bad
enough, but what eventually simply wears one out, even just reading the
stuff, is that it is mostly silly and boring, and has virtually nothing to
do with fishing, or with gentlemen either.

Most unfortunate, and extremely depressing to boot.

MC

You got that right! Why, just the other day I found myself readin' some of your old
flames--disgusting I tell ya, just plain ungentlemanly!

Mark --keepin' it real--

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

"Mike Connor" wrote in message
...
I don´t know anything at all about hatches in the Rockies, more´s the pity,
but I do know that this group deteriorates more with every passing insult
and bitterness that is published here. Any "outsider", and most "insiders"
reading this stuff would have to be crazy to want to have any part of it.

The only thing that really puzzles me, is, what is the point of it all? Is
there any point at all?

Once upon a time, I laboured under the quite obviously massive
misapprehension that anglers were gentlemen. This group has certainly
taught me the error of my ways.

The insults, and the flames, and all the other similar stuff here is bad
enough, but what eventually simply wears one out, even just reading the
stuff, is that it is mostly silly and boring, and has virtually nothing to
do with fishing, or with gentlemen either.

Most unfortunate, and extremely depressing to boot.

MC

You got that right! Why, just the other day I found myself readin' some of your old
flames--disgusting I tell ya, just plain ungentlemanly!

Mark --keepin' it real--

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

"Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote in message
...
SNIP
You got that right! Why, just the other day I found myself readin' some
of your old
flames--disgusting I tell ya, just plain ungentlemanly!

Mark --keepin' it real--


That depends rather more than somewhat on how you define a gentleman. As
for reality............. You don´t really think all this is "real", do
you?

MC --Finding it as unreal as ever-- and ..... signing off.

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

"Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote in message
...
SNIP
You got that right! Why, just the other day I found myself readin' some
of your old
flames--disgusting I tell ya, just plain ungentlemanly!

Mark --keepin' it real--


That depends rather more than somewhat on how you define a gentleman. As
for reality............. You don´t really think all this is "real", do
you?

MC --Finding it as unreal as ever-- and ..... signing off.

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

Tim J. wrote:

Not to be contrary,

You should ditch the bald-faced lies and learn to start your posts
with some plausible weasel words.

but I'd like to fish with you at a clave. I know that
sentiment is going to bring whatever comments others feel necessary, but it's
true. Regardless if "real" or "virtual" personas differ, I think you need to get
yer ass to a clave as well to put some reality back in this place.

I was at the Driftless 'Clave in July, the heartless *******s made
me cast a KPOS 3wt and they both smoked like fiends.

I'll even let you flick a cigarette butt in my general direction. :)

Don't go there. I bummed a fag off Cyli and it tasted SOOOOOOOOOOOOO
good I damn near bummed another.

--
Ken Fortenberry

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

Tim J. wrote:

Not to be contrary,

You should ditch the bald-faced lies and learn to start your posts
with some plausible weasel words.

but I'd like to fish with you at a clave. I know that
sentiment is going to bring whatever comments others feel necessary, but it's
true. Regardless if "real" or "virtual" personas differ, I think you need to get
yer ass to a clave as well to put some reality back in this place.

I was at the Driftless 'Clave in July, the heartless *******s made
me cast a KPOS 3wt and they both smoked like fiends.

I'll even let you flick a cigarette butt in my general direction. :)

Don't go there. I bummed a fag off Cyli and it tasted SOOOOOOOOOOOOO
good I damn near bummed another.

--
Ken Fortenberry

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

Ken Fortenberry writes:

Tom Littleton wrote:
jminpa notes:
All this stuff is just to keep newbies away from claves, right?

not to worry, all that happens is that Fortenberry stays away. No one seems
to
notice, either.

Hmmm. OK then, I guess I won't be needing a cabin space next May.
(Never argue with a Clavemeister ;-).

Fortenberry would be the only reason I would go to another clave. I've never
really fished with him. I have hopes of turning him on to the dark side of fly
fishing......nymphing. And, besides, I bet he's a pretty good fishing partner,
assholelishness aside.

One more thing, Ken. You never saw me cook in my skivvies. That has been a
myth all these many years. At "Forty's Fall Ball" I did go into the kitchen
that first morning in my bvds, but after the many guffaws and laughter
(including me), I put my pants on and a bathrobe. That is what I cooked in.
IJ will verify that because he helped me that morning.

As far as poinsoning people, that is another myth. The gentleman of all gentle
men Jeffie *insisted* that I pour all of the bacon grease into his frying pan.
He then proceeded to deep fry an egg or two. It was *his* fault he got the
****s.

Not one to blow my own horn (yuck, yuck, yuck :) ), I have cooked at *every*
clave I have been too and have never poisoned anyone. I have received nothing
but praise for my culinary prowess. But, I have to admit that I did cook a few
breakfasts at the Carolina cabin in my skivvies....... but, they were covered
by my longjohns and a pair of comic boxer shorts.
Dave
http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

Ken Fortenberry writes:

Tom Littleton wrote:
jminpa notes:
All this stuff is just to keep newbies away from claves, right?

not to worry, all that happens is that Fortenberry stays away. No one seems
to
notice, either.

Hmmm. OK then, I guess I won't be needing a cabin space next May.
(Never argue with a Clavemeister ;-).

Fortenberry would be the only reason I would go to another clave. I've never
really fished with him. I have hopes of turning him on to the dark side of fly
fishing......nymphing. And, besides, I bet he's a pretty good fishing partner,
assholelishness aside.

One more thing, Ken. You never saw me cook in my skivvies. That has been a
myth all these many years. At "Forty's Fall Ball" I did go into the kitchen
that first morning in my bvds, but after the many guffaws and laughter
(including me), I put my pants on and a bathrobe. That is what I cooked in.
IJ will verify that because he helped me that morning.

As far as poinsoning people, that is another myth. The gentleman of all gentle
men Jeffie *insisted* that I pour all of the bacon grease into his frying pan.
He then proceeded to deep fry an egg or two. It was *his* fault he got the
****s.

Not one to blow my own horn (yuck, yuck, yuck :) ), I have cooked at *every*
clave I have been too and have never poisoned anyone. I have received nothing
but praise for my culinary prowess. But, I have to admit that I did cook a few
breakfasts at the Carolina cabin in my skivvies....... but, they were covered
by my longjohns and a pair of comic boxer shorts.
Dave
http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

Dave LaCourse wrote:

It was *his* fault he got the
****s.



it's always been my fault dave... just this year, without your
assistance, i added grayling creek to the many streams calling forth to
my bowels since that day long ago when you...uh, i mean i... fostered
the introduction to santeetlah.

jeff (been eatin grandpop bailey's style of fried eggs since age 10...)

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

Dave LaCourse wrote:

It was *his* fault he got the
****s.



it's always been my fault dave... just this year, without your
assistance, i added grayling creek to the many streams calling forth to
my bowels since that day long ago when you...uh, i mean i... fostered
the introduction to santeetlah.

jeff (been eatin grandpop bailey's style of fried eggs since age 10...)

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

Dave LaCourse wrote:

Fortenberry would be the only reason I would go to another clave. I've never
really fished with him.

I have. Believe me, it's nothing special.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

Dave LaCourse wrote:

Fortenberry would be the only reason I would go to another clave. I've never
really fished with him.

I have. Believe me, it's nothing special.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

"Mike Connor" wrote in message
...
I don´t know anything at all about hatches in the Rockies, more´s the
pity,
but I do know that this group deteriorates more with every passing insult
and bitterness that is published here. Any "outsider", and most "insiders"
reading this stuff would have to be crazy to want to have any part of it.

The only thing that really puzzles me, is, what is the point of it all? Is
there any point at all?

Once upon a time, I laboured under the quite obviously massive
misapprehension that anglers were gentlemen. This group has certainly
taught me the error of my ways.

The insults, and the flames, and all the other similar stuff here is bad
enough, but what eventually simply wears one out, even just reading the
stuff, is that it is mostly silly and boring, and has virtually nothing to
do with fishing, or with gentlemen either.

Most unfortunate, and extremely depressing to boot.

MC

i agree. it's more difficult, day by day. the bitterness is becoming
overwhelming. the disputes, long ago, seemed to be an invitation to
relatively respectful intellectual contests. but since 40 and wolfgang have
sworn to bilious confrontations until the end of time, a sort of gloom has
settled over the place, for me.

this place becomes more boring every day, for me.

yfitons
wayno

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

Fortenberry states:
Hmmm. OK then, I guess I won't be needing a cabin space next May.
(Never argue with a Clavemeister ;-).

I'll take the smiley at face value(gad, what a bad pun) and assume you are
joking. I was commenting on past history. My personal record has been to
welcome one and all to Penns(you will remember that I offered to put the late
Mr. Gherke up ,
at my expense). You are and will be no exception. How you and others conduct
themselves is up to you and them(I am a host, not babysitter). The fishing is
often good, the bug life is second to none, and the company has always been
great. You can do what you wish(but if you can let me know before I pencil
things in with the campground next weekend I would appreciate it).
Tom

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

Fortenberry states:
Hmmm. OK then, I guess I won't be needing a cabin space next May.
(Never argue with a Clavemeister ;-).

I'll take the smiley at face value(gad, what a bad pun) and assume you are
joking. I was commenting on past history. My personal record has been to
welcome one and all to Penns(you will remember that I offered to put the late
Mr. Gherke up ,
at my expense). You are and will be no exception. How you and others conduct
themselves is up to you and them(I am a host, not babysitter). The fishing is
often good, the bug life is second to none, and the company has always been
great. You can do what you wish(but if you can let me know before I pencil
things in with the campground next weekend I would appreciate it).
Tom

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:52:48 -0400, "Tim J."
wrote:

jminpa wrote:
All this stuff is just to keep newbies away from claves, right?

That's what I thought at first. Scary, isn't it? These boys are all just
cuddly little teddy bears in person.


Well, I know Ken, jeff, and Wolfgang, the crew who are snarling now,
are.

George Cleveland, Joel Axelrod (SP?), and Bob Weinberger are nice on
and off screen, so they don't count in this.

Ken came off as cuddle puppy as his dog did in person and Wolfgang and
jeff were wonderful gentlemen when I met them.

Judging by the above small sample I've met at Claves, yes, this is a
teddy bear group. I can see the fang potential in them, even in
person, but I'm often surprized at the difference in my personal
memories and what comes up here.

Not that I'm complaining too much. I have a side of me that enjoys a
not too long thread of it and can, if provoked, do a bit of it myself.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. And sometimes by the net.wolverine.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:52:48 -0400, "Tim J."
wrote:

jminpa wrote:
All this stuff is just to keep newbies away from claves, right?

That's what I thought at first. Scary, isn't it? These boys are all just
cuddly little teddy bears in person.


Well, I know Ken, jeff, and Wolfgang, the crew who are snarling now,
are.

George Cleveland, Joel Axelrod (SP?), and Bob Weinberger are nice on
and off screen, so they don't count in this.

Ken came off as cuddle puppy as his dog did in person and Wolfgang and
jeff were wonderful gentlemen when I met them.

Judging by the above small sample I've met at Claves, yes, this is a
teddy bear group. I can see the fang potential in them, even in
person, but I'm often surprized at the difference in my personal
memories and what comes up here.

Not that I'm complaining too much. I have a side of me that enjoys a
not too long thread of it and can, if provoked, do a bit of it myself.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. And sometimes by the net.wolverine.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
om...

"Mike Connor" wrote in message
...
I don´t know anything at all about hatches in the Rockies, more´s the
pity,
but I do know that this group deteriorates more with every passing
insult
and bitterness that is published here. Any "outsider", and most
"insiders"
reading this stuff would have to be crazy to want to have any part of
it.

The only thing that really puzzles me, is, what is the point of it all?
Is
there any point at all?

Once upon a time, I laboured under the quite obviously massive
misapprehension that anglers were gentlemen. This group has certainly
taught me the error of my ways.

The insults, and the flames, and all the other similar stuff here is bad
enough, but what eventually simply wears one out, even just reading the
stuff, is that it is mostly silly and boring, and has virtually nothing
to
do with fishing, or with gentlemen either.

Most unfortunate, and extremely depressing to boot.

MC

i agree. it's more difficult, day by day. the bitterness is becoming
overwhelming. the disputes, long ago, seemed to be an invitation to
relatively respectful intellectual contests. but since 40 and wolfgang
have
sworn to bilious confrontations until the end of time, a sort of gloom has
settled over the place, for me.

this place becomes more boring every day, for me.

yfitons
wayno

You can make it stop.......well, half of it. Just say the word.

Wolfgang

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
om...

"Mike Connor" wrote in message
...
I don´t know anything at all about hatches in the Rockies, more´s the
pity,
but I do know that this group deteriorates more with every passing
insult
and bitterness that is published here. Any "outsider", and most
"insiders"
reading this stuff would have to be crazy to want to have any part of
it.

The only thing that really puzzles me, is, what is the point of it all?
Is
there any point at all?

Once upon a time, I laboured under the quite obviously massive
misapprehension that anglers were gentlemen. This group has certainly
taught me the error of my ways.

The insults, and the flames, and all the other similar stuff here is bad
enough, but what eventually simply wears one out, even just reading the
stuff, is that it is mostly silly and boring, and has virtually nothing
to
do with fishing, or with gentlemen either.

Most unfortunate, and extremely depressing to boot.

MC

i agree. it's more difficult, day by day. the bitterness is becoming
overwhelming. the disputes, long ago, seemed to be an invitation to
relatively respectful intellectual contests. but since 40 and wolfgang
have
sworn to bilious confrontations until the end of time, a sort of gloom has
settled over the place, for me.

this place becomes more boring every day, for me.

yfitons
wayno

You can make it stop.......well, half of it. Just say the word.

Wolfgang

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 08:02:22 -0700, "Danl"
wrote:

(snipped)

"Still bitter about the only 'Clave in roff history noted for its
lack of camaraderie and good fishing"

Near as I recall, only one person (not you) ever had a problem with a
western Clave lacking camaraderie. It certainly wasn't Danl.

If incorrect, please correct me. URLs are not necessary. I'll take
your word for it.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. And sometimes by the net.wolverine.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 08:02:22 -0700, "Danl"
wrote:

(snipped)

"Still bitter about the only 'Clave in roff history noted for its
lack of camaraderie and good fishing"

Near as I recall, only one person (not you) ever had a problem with a
western Clave lacking camaraderie. It certainly wasn't Danl.

If incorrect, please correct me. URLs are not necessary. I'll take
your word for it.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. And sometimes by the net.wolverine.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in message news:...

"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
om...

"Mike Connor" wrote in message
...
I don´t know anything at all about hatches in the Rockies, more´s the
pity,
but I do know that this group deteriorates more with every passing
insult
and bitterness that is published here. Any "outsider", and most
"insiders"
reading this stuff would have to be crazy to want to have any part of
it.

The only thing that really puzzles me, is, what is the point of it
all?
Is
there any point at all?

Once upon a time, I laboured under the quite obviously massive
misapprehension that anglers were gentlemen. This group has certainly
taught me the error of my ways.

The insults, and the flames, and all the other similar stuff here is
bad
enough, but what eventually simply wears one out, even just reading
the
stuff, is that it is mostly silly and boring, and has virtually
nothing
to
do with fishing, or with gentlemen either.

Most unfortunate, and extremely depressing to boot.

MC

i agree. it's more difficult, day by day. the bitterness is
becoming
overwhelming. the disputes, long ago, seemed to be an invitation to
relatively respectful intellectual contests. but since 40 and wolfgang
have
sworn to bilious confrontations until the end of time, a sort of gloom
has
settled over the place, for me.

this place becomes more boring every day, for me.

yfitons
wayno

You can make it stop.......well, half of it. Just say the word.

On second thought, I guess you have.

Done.

Wolfgang

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in message news:...

"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
om...

"Mike Connor" wrote in message
...
I don´t know anything at all about hatches in the Rockies, more´s the
pity,
but I do know that this group deteriorates more with every passing
insult
and bitterness that is published here. Any "outsider", and most
"insiders"
reading this stuff would have to be crazy to want to have any part of
it.

The only thing that really puzzles me, is, what is the point of it
all?
Is
there any point at all?

Once upon a time, I laboured under the quite obviously massive
misapprehension that anglers were gentlemen. This group has certainly
taught me the error of my ways.

The insults, and the flames, and all the other similar stuff here is
bad
enough, but what eventually simply wears one out, even just reading
the
stuff, is that it is mostly silly and boring, and has virtually
nothing
to
do with fishing, or with gentlemen either.

Most unfortunate, and extremely depressing to boot.

MC

i agree. it's more difficult, day by day. the bitterness is
becoming
overwhelming. the disputes, long ago, seemed to be an invitation to
relatively respectful intellectual contests. but since 40 and wolfgang
have
sworn to bilious confrontations until the end of time, a sort of gloom
has
settled over the place, for me.

this place becomes more boring every day, for me.

yfitons
wayno

You can make it stop.......well, half of it. Just say the word.

On second thought, I guess you have.

Done.

Wolfgang

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

Tom Littleton wrote:

You can do what you wish(but if you can let me know before I pencil
things in with the campground next weekend I would appreciate it). \

He isn't coming.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

I know there are no hatches in Sept in the Rockies but.........
 

Tom Littleton wrote:

You can do what you wish(but if you can let me know before I pencil
things in with the campground next weekend I would appreciate it). \

He isn't coming.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.