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On 17 Oct 2004 18:48:33 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse) wrote:

I moved to the current with Bruce Hopper and caught some decent fish, none of
them with lip sores. They were more difficult to catch, so I guess that's why
more people didn't fish the currents.

I fished all the way up from the Texas hole to the cable hole. I'm not sure
what you are calling the currents, but - as I said - I didn't see anyone fish
the way you describe or any fish deformed the way you describe. When the fish
school up by your feet you should move so they take up their feeding stations
again.
--
Charlie...

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On 17 Oct 2004 18:48:33 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse) wrote:

I moved to the current with Bruce Hopper and caught some decent fish, none of
them with lip sores. They were more difficult to catch, so I guess that's why
more people didn't fish the currents.

I fished all the way up from the Texas hole to the cable hole. I'm not sure
what you are calling the currents, but - as I said - I didn't see anyone fish
the way you describe or any fish deformed the way you describe. When the fish
school up by your feet you should move so they take up their feeding stations
again.
--
Charlie...

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On 17 Oct 2004 18:48:33 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse) wrote:

I moved to the current with Bruce Hopper and caught some decent fish, none of
them with lip sores. They were more difficult to catch, so I guess that's why
more people didn't fish the currents.

I fished all the way up from the Texas hole to the cable hole. I'm not sure
what you are calling the currents, but - as I said - I didn't see anyone fish
the way you describe or any fish deformed the way you describe. When the fish
school up by your feet you should move so they take up their feeding stations
again.
--
Charlie...

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Charlie Choc wrote:

I fished all the way up from the Texas hole to the cable hole. I'm not sure
what you are calling the currents, but - as I said - I didn't see anyone fish
the way you describe or any fish deformed the way you describe. ...

If you fished the Kiddie Hole and didn't see any deformed fish then
you must have got skunked at the Kiddie Hole. Louie's right, Kiddie
Hole fishing isn't even sportsmanlike.

I hired a guide, the Camo Man, to teach me how to fish the San Juan
on my first day there. He took me to the Kiddie Hole and taught me
that if you go three drifts without a fish, you must have slime on
your fly. That's how easy it is to catch fish there. It's a joke.
I showed Dan'l, who at that time was a tyro, what the Camo Man
showed me (right before I performed a spectacular 5 star full Reid
in the December chill) and he was able to slay them too. That ain't
fly fishing (no offense to Dan'l).

--
Ken Fortenberry

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Charlie Choc wrote:

I fished all the way up from the Texas hole to the cable hole. I'm not sure
what you are calling the currents, but - as I said - I didn't see anyone fish
the way you describe or any fish deformed the way you describe. ...

If you fished the Kiddie Hole and didn't see any deformed fish then
you must have got skunked at the Kiddie Hole. Louie's right, Kiddie
Hole fishing isn't even sportsmanlike.

I hired a guide, the Camo Man, to teach me how to fish the San Juan
on my first day there. He took me to the Kiddie Hole and taught me
that if you go three drifts without a fish, you must have slime on
your fly. That's how easy it is to catch fish there. It's a joke.
I showed Dan'l, who at that time was a tyro, what the Camo Man
showed me (right before I performed a spectacular 5 star full Reid
in the December chill) and he was able to slay them too. That ain't
fly fishing (no offense to Dan'l).

--
Ken Fortenberry

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Charlie Choc wrote:

I fished all the way up from the Texas hole to the cable hole. I'm not sure
what you are calling the currents, but - as I said - I didn't see anyone fish
the way you describe or any fish deformed the way you describe. ...

If you fished the Kiddie Hole and didn't see any deformed fish then
you must have got skunked at the Kiddie Hole. Louie's right, Kiddie
Hole fishing isn't even sportsmanlike.

I hired a guide, the Camo Man, to teach me how to fish the San Juan
on my first day there. He took me to the Kiddie Hole and taught me
that if you go three drifts without a fish, you must have slime on
your fly. That's how easy it is to catch fish there. It's a joke.
I showed Dan'l, who at that time was a tyro, what the Camo Man
showed me (right before I performed a spectacular 5 star full Reid
in the December chill) and he was able to slay them too. That ain't
fly fishing (no offense to Dan'l).

--
Ken Fortenberry

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Charlie Choc writes:

I fished all the way up from the Texas hole to the cable hole. I'm not sure
what you are calling the currents,

Away from the braids where the river has a strong current.

but - as I said - I didn't see anyone fish
the way you describe or any fish deformed the way you describe.

I didn't see any mangled fish except those caught at the Kiddie Hole and a few
caught in the braids.

When the fish
school up by your feet you should move so they take up their feeding stations
again.

Which means you are going to be constantly moving. I saw people that were
fishing for the fish *at their feet*, hence my remarks about it not being fly
fishing. I spent about an hour in the braids and five minutes at the KH and I
didn't enjoy it. I did, however, enjoy the main river that contained a pretty
good current and caught some very nice fish there.





--
Charlie...

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Charlie Choc writes:

I fished all the way up from the Texas hole to the cable hole. I'm not sure
what you are calling the currents,

Away from the braids where the river has a strong current.

but - as I said - I didn't see anyone fish
the way you describe or any fish deformed the way you describe.

I didn't see any mangled fish except those caught at the Kiddie Hole and a few
caught in the braids.

When the fish
school up by your feet you should move so they take up their feeding stations
again.

Which means you are going to be constantly moving. I saw people that were
fishing for the fish *at their feet*, hence my remarks about it not being fly
fishing. I spent about an hour in the braids and five minutes at the KH and I
didn't enjoy it. I did, however, enjoy the main river that contained a pretty
good current and caught some very nice fish there.





--
Charlie...

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Ken Fortenberry writes:

If you fished the Kiddie Hole and didn't see any deformed fish then
you must have got skunked at the Kiddie Hole. Louie's right, Kiddie
Hole fishing isn't even sportsmanlike.

I hired a guide, the Camo Man, to teach me how to fish the San Juan
on my first day there. He took me to the Kiddie Hole and taught me
that if you go three drifts without a fish, you must have slime on
your fly. That's how easy it is to catch fish there. It's a joke.
I showed Dan'l, who at that time was a tyro, what the Camo Man
showed me (right before I performed a spectacular 5 star full Reid
in the December chill) and he was able to slay them too. That ain't
fly fishing (no offense to Dan'l).


TA DA!

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Ken Fortenberry writes:

If you fished the Kiddie Hole and didn't see any deformed fish then
you must have got skunked at the Kiddie Hole. Louie's right, Kiddie
Hole fishing isn't even sportsmanlike.

I hired a guide, the Camo Man, to teach me how to fish the San Juan
on my first day there. He took me to the Kiddie Hole and taught me
that if you go three drifts without a fish, you must have slime on
your fly. That's how easy it is to catch fish there. It's a joke.
I showed Dan'l, who at that time was a tyro, what the Camo Man
showed me (right before I performed a spectacular 5 star full Reid
in the December chill) and he was able to slay them too. That ain't
fly fishing (no offense to Dan'l).


TA DA!

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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:16:55 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Charlie Choc wrote:

I fished all the way up from the Texas hole to the cable hole. I'm not sure
what you are calling the currents, but - as I said - I didn't see anyone fish
the way you describe or any fish deformed the way you describe. ...

If you fished the Kiddie Hole and didn't see any deformed fish then
you must have got skunked at the Kiddie Hole. Louie's right, Kiddie
Hole fishing isn't even sportsmanlike.

Didn't get skunked and didn't see any deformed fish (there). Maybe what we
thought was the kiddie hole wasn't.
--
Charlie...

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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:16:55 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Charlie Choc wrote:

I fished all the way up from the Texas hole to the cable hole. I'm not sure
what you are calling the currents, but - as I said - I didn't see anyone fish
the way you describe or any fish deformed the way you describe. ...

If you fished the Kiddie Hole and didn't see any deformed fish then
you must have got skunked at the Kiddie Hole. Louie's right, Kiddie
Hole fishing isn't even sportsmanlike.

Didn't get skunked and didn't see any deformed fish (there). Maybe what we
thought was the kiddie hole wasn't.
--
Charlie...

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Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Charlie Choc wrote:


I fished all the way up from the Texas hole to the cable hole. I'm not
sure
what you are calling the currents, but - as I said - I didn't see
anyone fish
the way you describe or any fish deformed the way you describe. ...


If you fished the Kiddie Hole and didn't see any deformed fish then
you must have got skunked at the Kiddie Hole. Louie's right, Kiddie
Hole fishing isn't even sportsmanlike.

I hired a guide, the Camo Man, to teach me how to fish the San Juan
on my first day there. He took me to the Kiddie Hole and taught me
that if you go three drifts without a fish, you must have slime on
your fly. That's how easy it is to catch fish there. It's a joke.
I showed Dan'l, who at that time was a tyro, what the Camo Man
showed me (right before I performed a spectacular 5 star full Reid
in the December chill) and he was able to slay them too. That ain't
fly fishing (no offense to Dan'l).



I'm guessing that's your opinion of the fishing on the San Juan as a
whole. The "Kiddy Hole" is just an exclamation point for the whole
river. I think it's a fun to place to hook some big fish on small flies
and light tackle.

I've been to a number of San Juan Claves and I can't recall anyone from
our group spending any extended periods of time in the Kiddy Hole and
I've NEVER seen anyone from our group "shuffling". People would hit it
on their way out and in (it's the first place next to the parking lot).
I've fished it for rising fish, there have been times when that's the
only rising fish I could find. It's a stupid argument anyway. Who gives
a **** if someone wants to fish the "Kiddy Hole?" or the "Cable Hole" or
any other "Hole."

Virtually all the fish on the San Juan have been caught several times
each season (some of the big ones maybe only hooked). There may be more
scarred up fish in the Kiddy Hole because it get fished so heavily, but
no matter where you fish the Quality Waters on the San Juan some of the
fish you catch are going to be scarred up. That's a fact when fishing
any heavily fished C&R areas. I caught a couple scarred up fish on the
Madison this year, but maybe I was fishing the "Kiddy Hole" without
knowing it.

Willi

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Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Charlie Choc wrote:


I fished all the way up from the Texas hole to the cable hole. I'm not
sure
what you are calling the currents, but - as I said - I didn't see
anyone fish
the way you describe or any fish deformed the way you describe. ...


If you fished the Kiddie Hole and didn't see any deformed fish then
you must have got skunked at the Kiddie Hole. Louie's right, Kiddie
Hole fishing isn't even sportsmanlike.

I hired a guide, the Camo Man, to teach me how to fish the San Juan
on my first day there. He took me to the Kiddie Hole and taught me
that if you go three drifts without a fish, you must have slime on
your fly. That's how easy it is to catch fish there. It's a joke.
I showed Dan'l, who at that time was a tyro, what the Camo Man
showed me (right before I performed a spectacular 5 star full Reid
in the December chill) and he was able to slay them too. That ain't
fly fishing (no offense to Dan'l).



I'm guessing that's your opinion of the fishing on the San Juan as a
whole. The "Kiddy Hole" is just an exclamation point for the whole
river. I think it's a fun to place to hook some big fish on small flies
and light tackle.

I've been to a number of San Juan Claves and I can't recall anyone from
our group spending any extended periods of time in the Kiddy Hole and
I've NEVER seen anyone from our group "shuffling". People would hit it
on their way out and in (it's the first place next to the parking lot).
I've fished it for rising fish, there have been times when that's the
only rising fish I could find. It's a stupid argument anyway. Who gives
a **** if someone wants to fish the "Kiddy Hole?" or the "Cable Hole" or
any other "Hole."

Virtually all the fish on the San Juan have been caught several times
each season (some of the big ones maybe only hooked). There may be more
scarred up fish in the Kiddy Hole because it get fished so heavily, but
no matter where you fish the Quality Waters on the San Juan some of the
fish you catch are going to be scarred up. That's a fact when fishing
any heavily fished C&R areas. I caught a couple scarred up fish on the
Madison this year, but maybe I was fishing the "Kiddy Hole" without
knowing it.

Willi

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Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Charlie Choc wrote:


I fished all the way up from the Texas hole to the cable hole. I'm not
sure
what you are calling the currents, but - as I said - I didn't see
anyone fish
the way you describe or any fish deformed the way you describe. ...


If you fished the Kiddie Hole and didn't see any deformed fish then
you must have got skunked at the Kiddie Hole. Louie's right, Kiddie
Hole fishing isn't even sportsmanlike.

I hired a guide, the Camo Man, to teach me how to fish the San Juan
on my first day there. He took me to the Kiddie Hole and taught me
that if you go three drifts without a fish, you must have slime on
your fly. That's how easy it is to catch fish there. It's a joke.
I showed Dan'l, who at that time was a tyro, what the Camo Man
showed me (right before I performed a spectacular 5 star full Reid
in the December chill) and he was able to slay them too. That ain't
fly fishing (no offense to Dan'l).



I'm guessing that's your opinion of the fishing on the San Juan as a
whole. The "Kiddy Hole" is just an exclamation point for the whole
river. I think it's a fun to place to hook some big fish on small flies
and light tackle.

I've been to a number of San Juan Claves and I can't recall anyone from
our group spending any extended periods of time in the Kiddy Hole and
I've NEVER seen anyone from our group "shuffling". People would hit it
on their way out and in (it's the first place next to the parking lot).
I've fished it for rising fish, there have been times when that's the
only rising fish I could find. It's a stupid argument anyway. Who gives
a **** if someone wants to fish the "Kiddy Hole?" or the "Cable Hole" or
any other "Hole."

Virtually all the fish on the San Juan have been caught several times
each season (some of the big ones maybe only hooked). There may be more
scarred up fish in the Kiddy Hole because it get fished so heavily, but
no matter where you fish the Quality Waters on the San Juan some of the
fish you catch are going to be scarred up. That's a fact when fishing
any heavily fished C&R areas. I caught a couple scarred up fish on the
Madison this year, but maybe I was fishing the "Kiddy Hole" without
knowing it.

Willi

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Willi & Sue wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
... That ain't
fly fishing (no offense to Dan'l).

I'm guessing that's your opinion of the fishing on the San Juan as a
whole. ...

It's true that I'm not much fond of tailwater fishing. It's phoney
baloney on so many levels. But I did enjoy some decent enough dry
fly fishing on the San Juan, some of it standing right next to you.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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Willi & Sue wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
... That ain't
fly fishing (no offense to Dan'l).

I'm guessing that's your opinion of the fishing on the San Juan as a
whole. ...

It's true that I'm not much fond of tailwater fishing. It's phoney
baloney on so many levels. But I did enjoy some decent enough dry
fly fishing on the San Juan, some of it standing right next to you.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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Willi & Sue wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
... That ain't
fly fishing (no offense to Dan'l).

I'm guessing that's your opinion of the fishing on the San Juan as a
whole. ...

It's true that I'm not much fond of tailwater fishing. It's phoney
baloney on so many levels. But I did enjoy some decent enough dry
fly fishing on the San Juan, some of it standing right next to you.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
om...
Charlie Choc wrote:
I hired a guide, the Camo Man, to teach me how to fish the San Juan
on my first day there. He took me to the Kiddie Hole and taught me
that if you go three drifts without a fish, you must have slime on
your fly. That's how easy it is to catch fish there. It's a joke.
I showed Dan'l, who at that time was a tyro, what the Camo Man
showed me (right before I performed a spectacular 5 star full Reid
in the December chill) and he was able to slay them too. That ain't
fly fishing (no offense to Dan'l).


Not sure what a "tyro" is. I spose it means rookie or newbie or similar?

I remember that day well. But the place where you showed me how to catch
those fish (and thanks again BTW) was actually one run further across the
river from the KH. Not that it makes a hill of beans one way or the other. I
do remember your spectacular Reid, but I've never mentioned it, I don't
think. As I remember you slipped whilst slogging your way towards me to take
a picture of a fish I had on. Thanks for the try.

No offense, but your definition of fly fishing ain't worth a hill of beans
either.

Danl

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
om...
Charlie Choc wrote:
I hired a guide, the Camo Man, to teach me how to fish the San Juan
on my first day there. He took me to the Kiddie Hole and taught me
that if you go three drifts without a fish, you must have slime on
your fly. That's how easy it is to catch fish there. It's a joke.
I showed Dan'l, who at that time was a tyro, what the Camo Man
showed me (right before I performed a spectacular 5 star full Reid
in the December chill) and he was able to slay them too. That ain't
fly fishing (no offense to Dan'l).


Not sure what a "tyro" is. I spose it means rookie or newbie or similar?

I remember that day well. But the place where you showed me how to catch
those fish (and thanks again BTW) was actually one run further across the
river from the KH. Not that it makes a hill of beans one way or the other. I
do remember your spectacular Reid, but I've never mentioned it, I don't
think. As I remember you slipped whilst slogging your way towards me to take
a picture of a fish I had on. Thanks for the try.

No offense, but your definition of fly fishing ain't worth a hill of beans
either.

Danl

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Dave LaCourse wrote:

Which means you are going to be constantly moving. I saw people that were
fishing for the fish *at their feet*, hence my remarks about it not being fly
fishing. I spent about an hour in the braids and five minutes at the KH and I
didn't enjoy it. I did, however, enjoy the main river that contained a pretty
good current and caught some very nice fish there.

You're not only a welshing, double dealing ****heel, but a liar to boot.
I watched you fish the Kiddie Hole for at least an hour, and I have a
photo of you fishing there.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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Dave LaCourse wrote:

Which means you are going to be constantly moving. I saw people that were
fishing for the fish *at their feet*, hence my remarks about it not being fly
fishing. I spent about an hour in the braids and five minutes at the KH and I
didn't enjoy it. I did, however, enjoy the main river that contained a pretty
good current and caught some very nice fish there.

You're not only a welshing, double dealing ****heel, but a liar to boot.
I watched you fish the Kiddie Hole for at least an hour, and I have a
photo of you fishing there.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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On 17 Oct 2004 19:28:17 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse) wrote:

Charlie Choc writes:
When the fish
school up by your feet you should move so they take up their feeding stations
again.

Which means you are going to be constantly moving.

Bruce warned me to watch out for that and I did. I only saw fish holding
behind me when I had stayed in the same place for more than 15 minutes or so,
and even then there were plenty of fish feeding all over the river to cast to.
I did see guys who stood in the same place all day, but didn't see any of them
fishing "at their feet". I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I expect a lot
of the stories are typical fisherman hyperbole.
--
Charlie...

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On 17 Oct 2004 19:28:17 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse) wrote:

Charlie Choc writes:
When the fish
school up by your feet you should move so they take up their feeding stations
again.

Which means you are going to be constantly moving.

Bruce warned me to watch out for that and I did. I only saw fish holding
behind me when I had stayed in the same place for more than 15 minutes or so,
and even then there were plenty of fish feeding all over the river to cast to.
I did see guys who stood in the same place all day, but didn't see any of them
fishing "at their feet". I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I expect a lot
of the stories are typical fisherman hyperbole.
--
Charlie...

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On 17 Oct 2004 19:28:17 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse) wrote:

Charlie Choc writes:
When the fish
school up by your feet you should move so they take up their feeding stations
again.

Which means you are going to be constantly moving.

Bruce warned me to watch out for that and I did. I only saw fish holding
behind me when I had stayed in the same place for more than 15 minutes or so,
and even then there were plenty of fish feeding all over the river to cast to.
I did see guys who stood in the same place all day, but didn't see any of them
fishing "at their feet". I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I expect a lot
of the stories are typical fisherman hyperbole.
--
Charlie...

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Danl wrote:
snip
Not sure what a "tyro" is. ...

That's why god invented dictionaries, maybe you could borrow
Wolfgang's. ;-)

snip
No offense, but your definition of fly fishing ain't worth a hill of beans
either.

No offense taken, but frankly, nobody's definition of fly fishing
is worth a hill of beans to me except my own.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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Danl wrote:
snip
Not sure what a "tyro" is. ...

That's why god invented dictionaries, maybe you could borrow
Wolfgang's. ;-)

snip
No offense, but your definition of fly fishing ain't worth a hill of beans
either.

No offense taken, but frankly, nobody's definition of fly fishing
is worth a hill of beans to me except my own.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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Danl wrote:
snip
Not sure what a "tyro" is. ...

That's why god invented dictionaries, maybe you could borrow
Wolfgang's. ;-)

snip
No offense, but your definition of fly fishing ain't worth a hill of beans
either.

No offense taken, but frankly, nobody's definition of fly fishing
is worth a hill of beans to me except my own.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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Barnard writes:

You're not only a welshing, double dealing ****heel, but a liar to boot.
I watched you fish the Kiddie Hole for at least an hour, and I have a
photo of you fishing there.


Yep. I fished the Kiddie Hole. I didn't know any better. I took one fish and
when I saw its condition, I moved on. And I watched you and someone else fish
the braids and you cast upstream so that it would flow down past your feet so
you could catch a fish. Like I said, that ain't fishing. I also saw you go
fish-less on Henry's Fork. Your presentation wasn't worth a ****, so that's
probably why you couldn't catch anything. But, you were probably using loop to
loop connectors, so I can understand why your presentation sucked. d;op

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Barnard writes:

You're not only a welshing, double dealing ****heel, but a liar to boot.
I watched you fish the Kiddie Hole for at least an hour, and I have a
photo of you fishing there.


Yep. I fished the Kiddie Hole. I didn't know any better. I took one fish and
when I saw its condition, I moved on. And I watched you and someone else fish
the braids and you cast upstream so that it would flow down past your feet so
you could catch a fish. Like I said, that ain't fishing. I also saw you go
fish-less on Henry's Fork. Your presentation wasn't worth a ****, so that's
probably why you couldn't catch anything. But, you were probably using loop to
loop connectors, so I can understand why your presentation sucked. d;op

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Charlie Choc writes:

I did see guys who stood in the same place all day, but didn't see any of them
fishing "at their feet"

Never said I saw someone standing in the same place all day. I did see two
guys standing at the head of the KH nymphing *down-stream*, and if you can't
figure out what they were doing, well......

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Charlie Choc writes:

I did see guys who stood in the same place all day, but didn't see any of them
fishing "at their feet"

Never said I saw someone standing in the same place all day. I did see two
guys standing at the head of the KH nymphing *down-stream*, and if you can't
figure out what they were doing, well......

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Charlie Choc writes:

I did see guys who stood in the same place all day, but didn't see any of them
fishing "at their feet"

Never said I saw someone standing in the same place all day. I did see two
guys standing at the head of the KH nymphing *down-stream*, and if you can't
figure out what they were doing, well......

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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Wayne Harrison wrote:

snip
to gratuitously publish one's private opinion of another person's
shortcomings, true or not, is cowardly, and totally devoid of class.


You've just described Wolfgang to a T. Still, I miss the nasty little
jerk and wish you hadn't run him off with your pollyanna platitudes.


I bet Willi a beer that he'd be back. That's a bet I sincerely hope to lose.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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On 17 Oct 2004 22:17:10 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse) wrote:

Charlie Choc writes:

I did see guys who stood in the same place all day, but didn't see any of them
fishing "at their feet"

Never said I saw someone standing in the same place all day. I did see two
guys standing at the head of the KH nymphing *down-stream*, and if you can't
figure out what they were doing, well......

You said "I saw people that were fishing for the fish *at their feet*". Now
you say "down-stream".

Also, I didn't say you said someone was standing in the same place all day, I
saw them doing that - and not fishing "at their feet", or "down-stream" for
that matter.

The SJ isn't my favorite type of place to fish, but it wasn't as big a circus
as the hyperbole of you and those "of your ilk" had led me to believe it might
be.
--
Charlie...

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On 17 Oct 2004 22:17:10 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse) wrote:

Charlie Choc writes:

I did see guys who stood in the same place all day, but didn't see any of them
fishing "at their feet"

Never said I saw someone standing in the same place all day. I did see two
guys standing at the head of the KH nymphing *down-stream*, and if you can't
figure out what they were doing, well......

You said "I saw people that were fishing for the fish *at their feet*". Now
you say "down-stream".

Also, I didn't say you said someone was standing in the same place all day, I
saw them doing that - and not fishing "at their feet", or "down-stream" for
that matter.

The SJ isn't my favorite type of place to fish, but it wasn't as big a circus
as the hyperbole of you and those "of your ilk" had led me to believe it might
be.
--
Charlie...

Question about loop leaders?
 

Charlie Choc writes:

You said "I saw people that were fishing for the fish *at their feet*". Now
you say "down-stream".

I did see people fishing in the shallow water in the braids, and they were
fishing for the trout that were two or three feet downstream from them. And,
the fish were there because the fisherman was there. That is NOT fly fishing.



Also, I didn't say you said someone was standing in the same place all day, I
saw them doing that - and not fishing "at their feet", or "down-stream" for
that matter.

The SJ isn't my favorite type of place to fish, but it wasn't as big a circus
as the hyperbole of you and those "of your ilk" had led me to believe it
might
be.
--

In the words of my favorite roffian sage:

FYC

I never returned to the SJ because of the conditions. I have fished other
tailwaters and never saw the beat up fish that the SJ contains. I fished the
Big Horn and never caught a fish with lip sores or so defeated that it couldn't
fight.

Question about loop leaders?
 

Charlie Choc writes:

You said "I saw people that were fishing for the fish *at their feet*". Now
you say "down-stream".

I did see people fishing in the shallow water in the braids, and they were
fishing for the trout that were two or three feet downstream from them. And,
the fish were there because the fisherman was there. That is NOT fly fishing.



Also, I didn't say you said someone was standing in the same place all day, I
saw them doing that - and not fishing "at their feet", or "down-stream" for
that matter.

The SJ isn't my favorite type of place to fish, but it wasn't as big a circus
as the hyperbole of you and those "of your ilk" had led me to believe it
might
be.
--

In the words of my favorite roffian sage:

FYC

I never returned to the SJ because of the conditions. I have fished other
tailwaters and never saw the beat up fish that the SJ contains. I fished the
Big Horn and never caught a fish with lip sores or so defeated that it couldn't
fight.

Question about loop leaders?
 

Charlie Choc writes:

You said "I saw people that were fishing for the fish *at their feet*". Now
you say "down-stream".

I did see people fishing in the shallow water in the braids, and they were
fishing for the trout that were two or three feet downstream from them. And,
the fish were there because the fisherman was there. That is NOT fly fishing.



Also, I didn't say you said someone was standing in the same place all day, I
saw them doing that - and not fishing "at their feet", or "down-stream" for
that matter.

The SJ isn't my favorite type of place to fish, but it wasn't as big a circus
as the hyperbole of you and those "of your ilk" had led me to believe it
might
be.
--

In the words of my favorite roffian sage:

FYC

I never returned to the SJ because of the conditions. I have fished other
tailwaters and never saw the beat up fish that the SJ contains. I fished the
Big Horn and never caught a fish with lip sores or so defeated that it couldn't
fight.

Question about loop leaders?
 

On 17 Oct 2004 22:38:01 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse) wrote:

In the words of my favorite roffian sage:

FYC

Well bless your heart, aren't you guys sweet.
--
Charlie...