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Ken Fortenberry August 23rd, 2004 04:33 PM

Fly Floatant
 
George Cleveland wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
I've not been able to find genuine Amadou
here in the states. ...


You can order large sheets from this company in Europe.

http://www.petitjean.ch/


Excellent. Thanks for the link, that's exactly what I've
been using. I'll cut that sheet into thirds and each third
will last a season or more.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Scott Seidman August 23rd, 2004 04:37 PM

Fly Floatant
 
George Cleveland wrote in
:

Okay all you junior chemists here is the pertinent question. How many
of you are actually using Albolene straight out of the jar instead of
plunking down your $3.50 at the counter of the local fly shop/
discount store when your little plastic bottle goes dry?


g.c.


Not me. I can understand the DIY principle, but when it comes to saving
$3.50 per season (if that), it seems out of whack not to just pick up some
floatant from my local shop. Seems like a fair trade in exchange for the
wealth of info, support, and good conversation that I've gotten out of my
three local flyshops for years.

That said, I don't know what I would do about floatant if I didn't have a
convenient local shop.

Scott

Wolfgang August 23rd, 2004 04:42 PM

Fly Floatant
 

"George Cleveland" wrote in message
...

Okay all you junior chemists here is the pertinent question. How

many
of you are actually using Albolene straight out of the jar instead

of
plunking down your $3.50 at the counter of the local fly shop/
discount store when your little plastic bottle goes dry?


I've been using Albolene for about twenty years. I've bought a couple
of others when I forgot to refill with Albolene or lost it. Haven't
noticed a significant difference among them. Might as well stay with
the cheap stuff.

Wolfgang



Bill Kiene August 23rd, 2004 07:22 PM

Fly Floatant
 
Hi Ken,

I think the wily Amadou is now on the endangered species list?

(bad joke)

PS: I think you are right on with the Frogs Fanny and Amadou though.
--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com


"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
m...

George Cleveland wrote:

Okay all you junior chemists here is the pertinent question. How many
of you are actually using Albolene straight out of the jar instead of
plunking down your $3.50 at the counter of the local fly shop/
discount store when your little plastic bottle goes dry?


I no longer use floatant at all, I use Frog Fanny and an Amadou.
I'm still using the Frog Fanny I bought two years ago but I'm
down to my last Amadou. I've not been able to find genuine Amadou
here in the states. The fly shops sell a synthetic version called
Samadou that doesn't work nearly as well.

--
Ken Fortenberry




Skwala August 23rd, 2004 07:54 PM

Fly Floatant
 

wrote in message
...
On 21 Aug 2004 17:02:36 GMT, ojunk (George Adams)
wrote:


George (Gehrke, not Adams) was, well, Ginkles, but all the same, he was
a ROFFian, and he may have been a lot of things, but he wasn't a
quitter, and he sure as hell was a part of FFing history. And truth be
told, as I've said before, I kinda miss the crazy old son of a bitch -
sort of ROFF's own G. L. Herter-meets-H.L. Meinken-meets-Bulwinkle J.
Moose.


TC,
R

Yeah, he was quite the character... although I am pretty much convinced that
Gink is Albolene, I would like to point out that George Gehrke, and both of
his sons that I knew, and one former employee, swore up and down to me that
Gink wasn't made form Albolene the few times I asked them point blank...

I really don't care one way or the other, as I have a lifetime supply of the
real Gink purchased from a fly shop liquidation....

George Gehrke... sort of like Herters on Acid.



Ken Fortenberry August 23rd, 2004 08:39 PM

Fly Floatant
 
Bill Kiene wrote:

Hi Ken,

I think the wily Amadou is now on the endangered species list?

(bad joke)

PS: I think you are right on with the Frogs Fanny and Amadou though.


Yeah, it works really well, better than floatant I think.

There's a marketing opportunity for you and Waldo. Nobody wants to
pay Orvis $20 for fifty cents worth of Amadou attached to a $19.50
piece of leather and a d-ring. Especially since the leather and
d-ring are useless when the Amadou wears out.

(You're top posting BTW, keep it up and you'll grow nose warts. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

Tim J. August 23rd, 2004 09:10 PM

Fly Floatant
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
George Cleveland wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
I've not been able to find genuine Amadou
here in the states. ...


You can order large sheets from this company in Europe.

http://www.petitjean.ch/


Excellent. Thanks for the link, that's exactly what I've
been using. I'll cut that sheet into thirds and each third
will last a season or more.


The minimum order is three sheets at $50.25 CHF + $30 CHF for shipping (about
$62 USD total). I've never used the stuff before, mainly because of the $20
Orvis price for a tiny patch you mention in another post. If 1/3 of a sheet is a
year or greater supply, this would be about a 10 year supply. How long does this
stuff keep its properties?

Another option would be for 3 or more of us to chip in for a sheet apiece. I'd
like to try it for myself and would be willing to do it that way.
--
TL,
Tim
who will gladly pay you Tuesday for some amadou today.
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



Ken Fortenberry August 23rd, 2004 09:37 PM

Fly Floatant
 
Tim J. wrote:

The minimum order is three sheets at $50.25 CHF + $30 CHF for shipping (about
$62 USD total). I've never used the stuff before, mainly because of the $20
Orvis price for a tiny patch you mention in another post. If 1/3 of a sheet is a
year or greater supply, this would be about a 10 year supply. How long does this
stuff keep its properties?


Amadou starts out very smooth on both sides. Eventually, as you use it,
it starts to shred. It works better smooth, but will continue to work
until it just falls apart. I've kept ragged pieces as small as a quarter.
To answer your question, if you keep it in the package and don't use
it, I assume it will keep its properties in perpetuity, if you use it
it will eventually fall apart. I get a season or more out of a piece
that measures about 2"X4".

--
Ken Fortenberry

Wolfgang August 23rd, 2004 09:49 PM

Fly Floatant
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in
message ...
Tim J. wrote:

The minimum order is three sheets at $50.25 CHF + $30 CHF for

shipping (about
$62 USD total). I've never used the stuff before, mainly because

of the $20
Orvis price for a tiny patch you mention in another post. If 1/3

of a sheet is a
year or greater supply, this would be about a 10 year supply. How

long does this
stuff keep its properties?


Amadou starts out very smooth on both sides. Eventually, as you use

it,
it starts to shred. It works better smooth, but will continue to

work
until it just falls apart. I've kept ragged pieces as small as a

quarter.
To answer your question, if you keep it in the package and don't use
it, I assume it will keep its properties in perpetuity, if you use

it
it will eventually fall apart. I get a season or more out of a piece
that measures about 2"X4".


Amadou is simply a fungus. Leave it in the package and it will
eventually oxidize and crumble. A piece of chamois works as well, is
a lot cheaper and much more readily available. The sleeve of a well
worn cotton shirt is better in every respect......except, of course,
for cachet among elitist idiots.

Wolfgang



Wolfgang August 23rd, 2004 09:49 PM

Fly Floatant
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in
message ...
Tim J. wrote:

The minimum order is three sheets at $50.25 CHF + $30 CHF for

shipping (about
$62 USD total). I've never used the stuff before, mainly because

of the $20
Orvis price for a tiny patch you mention in another post. If 1/3

of a sheet is a
year or greater supply, this would be about a 10 year supply. How

long does this
stuff keep its properties?


Amadou starts out very smooth on both sides. Eventually, as you use

it,
it starts to shred. It works better smooth, but will continue to

work
until it just falls apart. I've kept ragged pieces as small as a

quarter.
To answer your question, if you keep it in the package and don't use
it, I assume it will keep its properties in perpetuity, if you use

it
it will eventually fall apart. I get a season or more out of a piece
that measures about 2"X4".


Amadou is simply a fungus. Leave it in the package and it will
eventually oxidize and crumble. A piece of chamois works as well, is
a lot cheaper and much more readily available. The sleeve of a well
worn cotton shirt is better in every respect......except, of course,
for cachet among elitist idiots.

Wolfgang




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