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Chuck Coger November 27th, 2003 09:17 PM

new world record?
 
Remember the Homer Circle story when he was weighing a Bass for a guy for a
Big Fish Tourney and the fish weighed over what he thought it should have.
Homer turned the bass head down and shook and several sinkers came tumbling
out. He looked at the guy who said "Bass sure do eat the darndest things
don't they"

Also remember the the last lady that caught the record Bass that was
disqualified, something about finding nearly a pound or two of lead in the
bass's stomach. Don't remember the whole story only the jist of the story.

---
Chuck Coger


"Dan" wrote in message
hlink.net...


This months issue of the International Game Fish Association

newsletter
shows a
woman holding up a big bass. It says the fish was 29 inches long,

27.5
inches
fork length and 25 inch girth. It weighed just over 22.5 pounds on a

Bocagrip
scale.


Ain't sayin one way or the other. However, the demensions of Perry's bass

as
per the article on the "24#" from the previously mentioned link for spring
lake....

"Perry's Bass was caught in 1932 at Montgomery Lake Georgia. This behemoth
bass weighed 22 lb. 4 oz. had a length of 32 1/2 in. And the girth was 28
1/2 in. "

Lady's bass is shorter, thinner, and heavier?


Dan






Chuck Coger November 27th, 2003 11:53 PM

new world record?
 
As for the line, she may have been using 8 lb test. Part of getting a line
class record is to send a 2 or 3 foot piece of the line used in with the
application. IGFA then tests it breaking strength and applies it to the
appropriate line class. At least that is how they explained it to me when I
visited them in Miami, Florida. Not sure if the piece of line applies when
you are applying for all tacklerecords or not, but the fact that she has
been assigned a pending status to 12 pound class should mean they have at
least tested the breaking point of the line.

Whats really funny is if you visit the Miami IGFA facility, George Perry's
mammoth bass isn't listed on the floor as the record. I was unable to obtain
an answer as to why, and I asked several people that worked there.

---
Chuck Coger




"John Lindsey" wrote in message
...
If her son netted her fish this could be a problem. IGFA rules say

someone
else cannot "help" you land your fish. But someone else can net your fish
under specified conditions. If in analyzing the description of landing

the
bass, the lady comes across as a weak wimp and needed help to get her fish
caught, it might be enough for IGFA to taint the record application and
reject it.

Also note the disparity between the story saying she was using a 8 pound
test line while she is pending in the 12 pound class. This is a big
difference! I can think of a possible explanation or two but I want to

hear
IGFA's reason.

IGFA is the group that rates lines and tippets for the fishing tackle
manufacturers. IGFA's Doug Blodgett told me that when the testing lab
tested my tippet, it broke at 4.19 pounds although it was a 6 pound test
tippet. IGFA put me into the 6 pound class, not 4 pound class, because
Dai-Riki sold the tippet at 6 pounds, based upon IGFA testing. Doug said
that if my tippet had broken above 8 pounds, IGFA would have put me into

the
8 pound class, regardless of the fact that I was using a 6 pound tippet.
This is a possible reason of why the lady was fishing with 8 pound test

line
but IGFA has placed her into the pending 8 pound class.

Sounds like we need more information about this catch. Questions are

coming
out.
Good luck.
John



"RGarri7470" wrote in message
...

Where's the pic Ron?

Warren


In the IGFA newsletter - it also says she was fishing with her son out

of
a 13
foot inflatable boat, the fish hit a stormwildeye 7" jerkbait after she
switched to it from palstic worms and using 8 pound test line. Took her

ten
minutes of "tugging" before her son netted it.
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com







BassMr. November 28th, 2003 01:36 AM

new world record?
 
In the B.A.S.S. article it says that her son "is an experienced angler who
has several other line class records". Why then,didn't he have enough sense
to properly have that particular catch certified in the correct manner??
Or did he have enough sense to say "Hey Mom,maybe we can get away with
something"?
I do not think this "record" will ever stand,it will just be another monster
bass story from California (by way of Florida)!
JMHO
Maybe we need to have a California Big Bass Classic...........
huh.huh.huh.



John Lindsey November 28th, 2003 06:19 AM

new world record?
 

"John Lindsey" wrote in message
...
OOPS! I said:

This is a possible reason of why the lady was fishing with 8 pound test

line
but IGFA has placed her into the pending 8 pound class.


Should have said:

but IGFA has placed her into the pending 12 pound class.


Sorry





RGarri7470 November 28th, 2003 01:50 PM

new world record?
 
In the B.A.S.S. article

Which issue? I could not find it in the November issue.
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

AJH November 28th, 2003 08:08 PM

new world record?
 
Dec 2003, page12..





I fish therefore I lie


RGarri7470 November 28th, 2003 10:56 PM

new world record?
 
Dec 2003, page12..

Thanks - mine just came today and I found it. Good bit of info there, like the
fact the Bocagrip was certified. Strange that she let it go - sounds like her
son knows about records since he has several.
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

Dan November 29th, 2003 04:22 AM

new world record?
 
That one was the inframous "diver weight" from about 10 years ago. Another
fish that "fought for 10 minutes".

One of several "questionable" catches over the years. there are a couple on
the books right now that are doubted by many familiar with the situation and
angler. Unfortunately, without hard evidence, suspicions don't cut it. It is
unfortunate however that questionable catches get so much attention and hang
on the fringe of credibility for so long.

Dan




"Chuck Coger" wrote in message
...
Remember the Homer Circle story when he was weighing a Bass for a guy for

a
Big Fish Tourney and the fish weighed over what he thought it should have.
Homer turned the bass head down and shook and several sinkers came

tumbling
out. He looked at the guy who said "Bass sure do eat the darndest things
don't they"

Also remember the the last lady that caught the record Bass that was
disqualified, something about finding nearly a pound or two of lead in the
bass's stomach. Don't remember the whole story only the jist of the story.

---
Chuck Coger


"Dan" wrote in message
hlink.net...


This months issue of the International Game Fish Association

newsletter
shows a
woman holding up a big bass. It says the fish was 29 inches long,

27.5
inches
fork length and 25 inch girth. It weighed just over 22.5 pounds on

a
Bocagrip
scale.


Ain't sayin one way or the other. However, the demensions of Perry's

bass
as
per the article on the "24#" from the previously mentioned link for

spring
lake....

"Perry's Bass was caught in 1932 at Montgomery Lake Georgia. This

behemoth
bass weighed 22 lb. 4 oz. had a length of 32 1/2 in. And the girth was

28
1/2 in. "

Lady's bass is shorter, thinner, and heavier?


Dan








J Buck November 29th, 2003 04:42 AM

new world record?
 
That one was the inframous "diver weight" from about 10 years ago.
Another fish that "fought for 10 minutes"

I know it takes time to play certain species, but I get the impression
most big bass are horsed in fairly quickly. Is 10" considered quick or a
long time to bring a big one in?




John Lindsey November 29th, 2003 06:19 AM

new world record?
 
My guess is that almost all bass regardless of size are horsed in as quickly
as possible. Reasons for my guess is:
1. Most bass fishermen regardless of tackle or technique have lost too many
bass that circled a limb or jumped over a log. We remember.
2. Most bass fishermen use heavy line and are used to pulling bass out
through brush, weeds and lily pads, etc.
3. A lot of fishermen believe playing fish for long times stresses the
fish, especially in warm waters.

The above notwithstanding, almost no bass of any size are caught with a fly
rod and those that are almost always caught using 10 to 12 pound leaders and
tippets and probably fall into the three categories of guesses listed above.
It takes me at least 10 - 15 minutes to horse in a 5-6 pound bass on 12
pound leader/10 pound tippet.

Hope this helps. Good luck!
John




"J Buck" wrote in message
...
That one was the inframous "diver weight" from about 10 years ago.
Another fish that "fought for 10 minutes"

I know it takes time to play certain species, but I get the impression
most big bass are horsed in fairly quickly. Is 10" considered quick or a
long time to bring a big one in?







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