OT Hunting tragedy in Wisconsin
 

"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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Ken Fortenberry wrote in
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George Adams wrote:
From: Ken Fortenberry
I don't
know about you, but when I hear an unbelievable story I tend
not to believe it.

So what was it Ken? ...

I have no idea. The only information I have is the same as yours.
I just don't believe the story as presented, it doesn't make
sense.


From the AP:
"HAYWARD, Wis. (AP) -- A man suspected in the killings of six
hunters told
investigators he began firing after he was shot at first and some of
the
victims called him racially derogatory names, according to documents
filed
Tuesday."

Anyone familiar with the history of race relations in northern
Wisconsin over the past couple of decades shouldn't have much trouble
finding that account credible.

Two sides to every story.

Well, there's the rub. For the moment at least, the other side is
somewhat under-represented.

Wolfgang

OT Hunting tragedy in Wisconsin
 

Scott Seidman wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
George Adams wrote:
From: Ken Fortenberry
I don't
know about you, but when I hear an unbelievable story I tend
not to believe it.

So what was it Ken? ...

I have no idea. The only information I have is the same as yours.
I just don't believe the story as presented, it doesn't make sense.

From the AP:
"HAYWARD, Wis. (AP) -- A man suspected in the killings of six hunters told
investigators he began firing after he was shot at first and some of the
victims called him racially derogatory names, according to documents filed
Tuesday."

Two sides to every story.

From the same story:

"A hunter approached and told Vang he was on private property, and Vang
started to leave as other hunters approached, the statement said. Vang
said the hunters surrounded him and some called him racial slurs.

"Vang said he started walking away but looked back to see the first
hunter point his rifle at him and then fire a shot that hit the ground
30 to 40 feet behind him, the statement said.

"Vang told investigators that's when he started firing at the group,
according to the statement."

In the absence of any evidence one way or the other that
story is *far* more believable to me than the story told
by the white people. How many Hmong you figure to be on a
jury in Sawyer County, Wisconsin ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

OT Hunting tragedy in Wisconsin
 

Scott Seidman wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
George Adams wrote:
From: Ken Fortenberry
I don't
know about you, but when I hear an unbelievable story I tend
not to believe it.

So what was it Ken? ...

I have no idea. The only information I have is the same as yours.
I just don't believe the story as presented, it doesn't make sense.

From the AP:
"HAYWARD, Wis. (AP) -- A man suspected in the killings of six hunters told
investigators he began firing after he was shot at first and some of the
victims called him racially derogatory names, according to documents filed
Tuesday."

Two sides to every story.

From the same story:

"A hunter approached and told Vang he was on private property, and Vang
started to leave as other hunters approached, the statement said. Vang
said the hunters surrounded him and some called him racial slurs.

"Vang said he started walking away but looked back to see the first
hunter point his rifle at him and then fire a shot that hit the ground
30 to 40 feet behind him, the statement said.

"Vang told investigators that's when he started firing at the group,
according to the statement."

In the absence of any evidence one way or the other that
story is *far* more believable to me than the story told
by the white people. How many Hmong you figure to be on a
jury in Sawyer County, Wisconsin ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

OT Hunting tragedy in Wisconsin
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote

In the absence of any evidence one way or the other that
story is *far* more believable to me than the story told
by the white people. How many Hmong you figure to be on a
jury in Sawyer County, Wisconsin ?

about a dozen less than absolutely necessary for success.

wayno

OT Hunting tragedy in Wisconsin
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote

In the absence of any evidence one way or the other that
story is *far* more believable to me than the story told
by the white people. How many Hmong you figure to be on a
jury in Sawyer County, Wisconsin ?

about a dozen less than absolutely necessary for success.

wayno

OT Hunting tragedy in Wisconsin
 

Wayne Harrison wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
In the absence of any evidence one way or the other that
story is *far* more believable to me than the story told
by the white people. How many Hmong you figure to be on a
jury in Sawyer County, Wisconsin ?


about a dozen less than absolutely necessary for success.

Yeah, that would be my guess too.

Here's the probable cause statement aka Vang's "confession."

http://www.madison.com/item/vang_pc_stmt_signed.pdf

--
Ken Fortenberry

OT Hunting tragedy in Wisconsin
 

Wayne Harrison wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
In the absence of any evidence one way or the other that
story is *far* more believable to me than the story told
by the white people. How many Hmong you figure to be on a
jury in Sawyer County, Wisconsin ?


about a dozen less than absolutely necessary for success.

Yeah, that would be my guess too.

Here's the probable cause statement aka Vang's "confession."

http://www.madison.com/item/vang_pc_stmt_signed.pdf

--
Ken Fortenberry

OT Hunting tragedy in Wisconsin
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in message ...

And an elephant ain't got nuthin' on me, Mark. :)


I thought some of those pics that Jeff took of you at the Anti-'Clave showed that you
had put on a few pounds, though your legs were very trim lookin'.

Mark

Wolfgang
whose spellchecker never even hiccupped.

OT Hunting tragedy in Wisconsin
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in message ...

And an elephant ain't got nuthin' on me, Mark. :)


I thought some of those pics that Jeff took of you at the Anti-'Clave showed that you
had put on a few pounds, though your legs were very trim lookin'.

Mark

Wolfgang
whose spellchecker never even hiccupped.

OT Hunting tragedy in Wisconsin
 

George Cleveland wrote:

You need to come up to a northern Wisconsin Lutheran small town some
Sunday, Wolfgang. (I have a couple in mind if your really interested.)
Within an hour after the church bell is done ringing the bar stools
are full. Sometimes they don't even bother to change clothes. And if
the Pack is playing even the minister will show up.

Beer and a bump.

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