go-bassn wrote:
So you're declining my challenge, correct?

Warren

No way

You can fly or drive down here anytime , and I will give you 4 hours of
fishing, or should I say instructions,, it will be very worth your time
as you will start winning a lot more tournaments


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Your stuff all sucks.

WW
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Rodney" wrote in message
...
David Norton wrote:
It amazes me that you guys keep feeding this guy! I sit here day after
day convinced Rodney could not sell sno-cones in hell. There is an old
saying,
" It is better to be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove
all doubt" Another is " If the shoe fits wear it!"


In other words someone could blast your day job and how you do it on this
news group and you would never respond or defend yourself ?

I spend hundreds of hours working and testing my tackle, when some one
tells the "world" that it's all B.S. without even testing it,, yes I get
mad as hell. I could care less what he personally thinks about my stuff,
but acting as some kind of expert, and then bashing it

At one point on this group I offered "free" stuff
Warren came on here and told everyone that sent for it was a fool.

What the hell was he "afraid" of ? He was afraid that he would loose his
credibility.

I'm not here trying to sell anything, I'm here trying to inform people of
new ways to fish, more productive ways, ways that no one on here knows how
to do, and that is the big killer for Warren, he can't figure out how my
stuff works, and if he has not used it it and approves it, then no one on
the board should use it.

I could easily explain "How" I use these rigs to catch fish, but way back
when I was trying to do that, I was called a spammer. I was forbidden by
the elite few here from discussing catching fish with them, as each time I
did I was spamming. I have found out it is "who" you are, not what your
pushing, that is important to this group.

It's OK to flame anyone here, but don't let them defend themselves
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Rodney, give it up on this NG!

--
David Norton

"Rodney" wrote in message
...
go-bassn wrote:
So you're declining my challenge, correct?

Warren

No way

You can fly or drive down here anytime , and I will give you 4 hours of
fishing, or should I say instructions,, it will be very worth your time as
you will start winning a lot more tournaments


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

No way. You've gotta fish my water, for my bass. In my boat. You've never
been beaten, right?

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Rodney" wrote in message
...
go-bassn wrote:
So you're declining my challenge, correct?

Warren

No way

You can fly or drive down here anytime , and I will give you 4 hours of
fishing, or should I say instructions,, it will be very worth your time as
you will start winning a lot more tournaments


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

.....that would be GOOD news to a ......wait for it....wait for it...... ;-)

VACUUM SALESMAN!
--
ba-dump--baaa.... tttisshh! Steve

gobassn wrote:
No way. You've gotta fish my water, for my bass. In my boat. You've never
been beaten, right?

Warren
That's correct Warren, and when I have been offered to go head to head
with pro's there was something that I was doing it for, either money, a
contract, or press. My trip was totally paid for, as well as my time. I
can't see any of my manufacturers paying for me, just to beat you, sorry
but your name just does not carry that much weight in the fishing
industry, actually I can't find it carrying any weight.

I have offered you 4 hours of my time, to educate you in the new methods
of bass fishing, and that is what me fishing against you would become,
as you don't have a clue about how to turn lure presentation from 2
dimension to 3. Currently you only know how to "retrieve" a lure to make
it move, you are limited to just that retrieval force, and of course
gravity. You are limited to this, because your tools, only allow you to
control this. My added tool allows another dimension, This new dimension
allows you to makes lures act like "real" sources of food, better than
that, it can make them look like easy meals. My tool goes even further,
it allows you to work a lure in spots you can't even fish with your
tools, way back against the bank behind all kinds of obstructions, holes
in weeds beds no bigger than a foot, that you can keep a lure moving in
for as long as you want, and makes other places easier, places you have
to flip to, I can cast from fifty feet away, keeping you and the boat
away from the fish. my tools allow just one cast to a bed, and you can
work that lure forever if you would ever need to. You see my new fishing
inventions allow you to keep your lures where the fish are, not have to
just drag them by the fish.

Alass, my tools are not for suspended fish in the middle of a lake, it
is just for when they are on cover, beds, working the banks, holding of
off the bottom, or ledges, feeding the raised points, and everywhere
else but out in the middle of the lake.

You see Warren it is not that I am a better fishermen than anyone else,
it is just I have other tools I use that allow me to catch both more and
bigger fish, bigger, because big fish, move very slowly over to a meal,
sure they will lunge at something drug near their nose, but if something
is a few feet away, they will take their time to get over to it. WI th
my tools you can keep that lure in one spot giving the bigger fish time
to examine it, then eat it


I realize all this is hard for you to understand, as you have for many
years mastered your tools, and now I'm throwing the unknown at you, and
the unknown scares you, as well as makes you mad. It means you have to
learn again. It means that anyone who has not spent the years you have
learning 2 dimensional presentations, can now out fish you using 3.

Well there is no reason to fear this for a while, as we are not going to
be marketing this to bass fishermen, (this time around) but to the
fishing for anything that will bite majority of fishermen in the world,,
it will take the majority of bass fishermen a while to see how these new
tools could open up a new dimension to bass fishing, just look at how
long it has taken just plane drop shotting to come across the country. I
have a new weight for those reluctant to change over, that weight lets
you fish your soft plastics through the rocks as well as brush without
snagging. I have other terminal tackle in the testing stage for those
die hards of 2 dimensional fishing as well.

The bad thing about this industry is the manufactures must catch the
fishermen "first", actually that must catch the wholesale, and store
buyers first, then the fishermen. you can have something that catches
fish like crazy, but does not catch the fishermen, or the buyers

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Lol Rodney, you're the one that's scared...

So your rubberband keeps a bait in one place. You make it sound like that's
the best way to present a lure. Maybe 10% of the time.

90% of the time bass wanna chase something down & kill it, a good look at a
lure is the last thing you want to give a bass.

Your presentation wont sell because theres nothing natural about it.
Unnatural things spook bass, they don't attract them.

Of course you wouldn't know this, since you don't know much about bass
fishing...

So keep wasting your time spewing to a few nobody's here on rofb. We'll all
(still) be laughing when your "new" rig is in the closeout bins.

Warren


"Rodney" wrote in message
...
gobassn wrote:
No way. You've gotta fish my water, for my bass. In my boat. You've
never
been beaten, right?

Warren
That's correct Warren, and when I have been offered to go head to head
with pro's there was something that I was doing it for, either money, a
contract, or press. My trip was totally paid for, as well as my time. I
can't see any of my manufacturers paying for me, just to beat you, sorry
but your name just does not carry that much weight in the fishing
industry, actually I can't find it carrying any weight.

I have offered you 4 hours of my time, to educate you in the new methods
of bass fishing, and that is what me fishing against you would become,
as you don't have a clue about how to turn lure presentation from 2
dimension to 3. Currently you only know how to "retrieve" a lure to make
it move, you are limited to just that retrieval force, and of course
gravity. You are limited to this, because your tools, only allow you to
control this. My added tool allows another dimension, This new dimension
allows you to makes lures act like "real" sources of food, better than
that, it can make them look like easy meals. My tool goes even further,
it allows you to work a lure in spots you can't even fish with your
tools, way back against the bank behind all kinds of obstructions, holes
in weeds beds no bigger than a foot, that you can keep a lure moving in
for as long as you want, and makes other places easier, places you have
to flip to, I can cast from fifty feet away, keeping you and the boat
away from the fish. my tools allow just one cast to a bed, and you can
work that lure forever if you would ever need to. You see my new fishing
inventions allow you to keep your lures where the fish are, not have to
just drag them by the fish.

Alass, my tools are not for suspended fish in the middle of a lake, it
is just for when they are on cover, beds, working the banks, holding of
off the bottom, or ledges, feeding the raised points, and everywhere
else but out in the middle of the lake.

You see Warren it is not that I am a better fishermen than anyone else,
it is just I have other tools I use that allow me to catch both more and
bigger fish, bigger, because big fish, move very slowly over to a meal,
sure they will lunge at something drug near their nose, but if something
is a few feet away, they will take their time to get over to it. WI th
my tools you can keep that lure in one spot giving the bigger fish time
to examine it, then eat it


I realize all this is hard for you to understand, as you have for many
years mastered your tools, and now I'm throwing the unknown at you, and
the unknown scares you, as well as makes you mad. It means you have to
learn again. It means that anyone who has not spent the years you have
learning 2 dimensional presentations, can now out fish you using 3.

Well there is no reason to fear this for a while, as we are not going to
be marketing this to bass fishermen, (this time around) but to the
fishing for anything that will bite majority of fishermen in the world,,
it will take the majority of bass fishermen a while to see how these new
tools could open up a new dimension to bass fishing, just look at how
long it has taken just plane drop shotting to come across the country. I
have a new weight for those reluctant to change over, that weight lets
you fish your soft plastics through the rocks as well as brush without
snagging. I have other terminal tackle in the testing stage for those
die hards of 2 dimensional fishing as well.

The bad thing about this industry is the manufactures must catch the
fishermen "first", actually that must catch the wholesale, and store
buyers first, then the fishermen. you can have something that catches
fish like crazy, but does not catch the fishermen, or the buyers

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

go-bassn wrote:
Lol Rodney, you're the one that's scared...

So your rubberband keeps a bait in one place. You make it sound like that's
the best way to present a lure. Maybe 10% of the time.

How do you know this,, you don't, you are guessing again, because you
have never fished my way, you can't say this without guessing. I have
spend many hours fishing for huge bass with underwater cameras in place
and reviewing those underwater tapes, seeing how huge bass respond to
various lures, and natural food sources. I don't "assume" anything.

There are thousands of bass caught everyday to very slow fished
Carolina, Texas , and drop shot rigs, I guess your saying these don't
work 90% of the time either ? What about dead sticking ?

Last week a man told me he cleaned a 3 lb bass, and found no less that 6
plastic worms in it's stomach, none of them had a hook in them,, I guess
these worms must'a been fished fast without a hook in them, or the bass
just sucked them up off the top or bottom of the lake as they sat there,
discarded by some worthless man who tossed them over board.

90% of the time bass wanna chase something down & kill it,

Little bass want to do this,, big bass wanna eat, and get bigger with
the least amount of wasted energy getting that meal,, what planet do you
live on,, one with little dink bass every where? Well guess what,
little dinks like a free meal as well, one they don't have to chase.

You tell that trash to the professional bass guides, where people go to
fish for trophy bass, they will only guaranty big bass, only if your
using a live, "slow fished", minnow. What happens when the bass don't
fell like chasing anything,, you get skunked, I don't.

It seams "reaction" bass fishing, is all you know about, that is less
than I thought you knew

a good look at a
lure is the last thing you want to give a bass.

That may be true when throwing un-natural looking and moving baits at
them, but far from true throwing natural looking lures, moving the
right way. Every time I'm sight fishing, I watch these bass get a good
look before pouncing my lures

Your presentation wont sell because theres nothing natural about it.
Unnatural things spook bass, they don't attract them.

Well I guess that "Proves" mine is as natural as it gets, because bass
devour the lures on my rig

Of course you wouldn't know this, since you don't know much about bass
fishing...

I guess I know a lot more about bass catching, than fishing.

So keep wasting your time spewing to a few nobody's here on rofb. We'll all
(still) be laughing when your "new" rig is in the closeout bins.

Warren when did you become the marketing expert in the fishing
industry,, how much do they pay you to tell them what will work and what
won't, what will sell and what want, how many of your own products have
you succeeded with ?



--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Mr Closeout Bin, lmao.

WW;-)

"Rodney" wrote in message
...
go-bassn wrote:
Lol Rodney, you're the one that's scared...

So your rubberband keeps a bait in one place. You make it sound like
that's
the best way to present a lure. Maybe 10% of the time.

How do you know this,, you don't, you are guessing again, because you
have never fished my way, you can't say this without guessing. I have
spend many hours fishing for huge bass with underwater cameras in place
and reviewing those underwater tapes, seeing how huge bass respond to
various lures, and natural food sources. I don't "assume" anything.

There are thousands of bass caught everyday to very slow fished
Carolina, Texas , and drop shot rigs, I guess your saying these don't
work 90% of the time either ? What about dead sticking ?

Last week a man told me he cleaned a 3 lb bass, and found no less that 6
plastic worms in it's stomach, none of them had a hook in them,, I guess
these worms must'a been fished fast without a hook in them, or the bass
just sucked them up off the top or bottom of the lake as they sat there,
discarded by some worthless man who tossed them over board.

90% of the time bass wanna chase something down & kill it,

Little bass want to do this,, big bass wanna eat, and get bigger with
the least amount of wasted energy getting that meal,, what planet do you
live on,, one with little dink bass every where? Well guess what,
little dinks like a free meal as well, one they don't have to chase.

You tell that trash to the professional bass guides, where people go to
fish for trophy bass, they will only guaranty big bass, only if your
using a live, "slow fished", minnow. What happens when the bass don't
fell like chasing anything,, you get skunked, I don't.

It seams "reaction" bass fishing, is all you know about, that is less
than I thought you knew

a good look at a
lure is the last thing you want to give a bass.

That may be true when throwing un-natural looking and moving baits at
them, but far from true throwing natural looking lures, moving the
right way. Every time I'm sight fishing, I watch these bass get a good
look before pouncing my lures

Your presentation wont sell because theres nothing natural about it.
Unnatural things spook bass, they don't attract them.

Well I guess that "Proves" mine is as natural as it gets, because bass
devour the lures on my rig

Of course you wouldn't know this, since you don't know much about bass
fishing...

I guess I know a lot more about bass catching, than fishing.

So keep wasting your time spewing to a few nobody's here on rofb. We'll
all
(still) be laughing when your "new" rig is in the closeout bins.

Warren when did you become the marketing expert in the fishing
industry,, how much do they pay you to tell them what will work and what
won't, what will sell and what want, how many of your own products have
you succeeded with ?



--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

go-bassn wrote:
Mr Closeout Bin, lmao.

WW;-)

I see you had no response to all of the information I provided below,,
because I was "RIGHT",,, again,, so you went to name calling as your
only response.

I have proved my point, once again, I just hope some learned, something
about you.

As for me, the sales of my products will decide who is right about the
closeout bins (at least I'm on the market, and in the top stores in the
country with my tackle) I'm making money now, people are catching fish
with my stuff, most are very, very happy with my stuff, once they learn
how to fish them. I hope that you will be able to learn how someday.


"Rodney" wrote in message
...

go-bassn wrote:

Lol Rodney, you're the one that's scared...

So your rubberband keeps a bait in one place. You make it sound like

that's

the best way to present a lure. Maybe 10% of the time.

How do you know this,, you don't, you are guessing again, because you
have never fished my way, you can't say this without guessing. I have
spend many hours fishing for huge bass with underwater cameras in place
and reviewing those underwater tapes, seeing how huge bass respond to
various lures, and natural food sources. I don't "assume" anything.

There are thousands of bass caught everyday to very slow fished
Carolina, Texas , and drop shot rigs, I guess your saying these don't
work 90% of the time either ? What about dead sticking ?

Last week a man told me he cleaned a 3 lb bass, and found no less that 6
plastic worms in it's stomach, none of them had a hook in them,, I guess
these worms must'a been fished fast without a hook in them, or the bass
just sucked them up off the top or bottom of the lake as they sat there,
discarded by some worthless man who tossed them over board.

90% of the time bass wanna chase something down & kill it,

Little bass want to do this,, big bass wanna eat, and get bigger with
the least amount of wasted energy getting that meal,, what planet do you
live on,, one with little dink bass every where? Well guess what,
little dinks like a free meal as well, one they don't have to chase.

You tell that trash to the professional bass guides, where people go to
fish for trophy bass, they will only guaranty big bass, only if your
using a live, "slow fished", minnow. What happens when the bass don't
fell like chasing anything,, you get skunked, I don't.

It seams "reaction" bass fishing, is all you know about, that is less
than I thought you knew


a good look at a
lure is the last thing you want to give a bass.

That may be true when throwing un-natural looking and moving baits at
them, but far from true throwing natural looking lures, moving the
right way. Every time I'm sight fishing, I watch these bass get a good
look before pouncing my lures

Your presentation wont sell because theres nothing natural about it.
Unnatural things spook bass, they don't attract them.

Well I guess that "Proves" mine is as natural as it gets, because bass
devour the lures on my rig

Of course you wouldn't know this, since you don't know much about bass
fishing...

I guess I know a lot more about bass catching, than fishing.

So keep wasting your time spewing to a few nobody's here on rofb. We'll

all

(still) be laughing when your "new" rig is in the closeout bins.

Warren when did you become the marketing expert in the fishing
industry,, how much do they pay you to tell them what will work and what
won't, what will sell and what want, how many of your own products have
you succeeded with ?



--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com





--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com