Ken Fortenberry wrote:
rw wrote:


This suppleness is especially important in downstream slack-cast
dry-fly presentations in spring-creek conditions, and super especially
important when fishing for educated trout.


In particularly rare conditions like you describe above it
may be necessary to use long, fine tippets, but in normal,
and even tougher than normal, dry fly situations a long tippet
of 4X or 5X will usually suffice.


I agree with this. I use 6X infrequently and don't even have any 7 or 8.


And I would never fish a dry
fly downstream.


But you're also an idiot!

Willi

Willi wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
And I would never fish a dry fly downstream.

But you're also an idiot!

Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but as I recall you would
never fish with dynamite, upstream or down. That doesn't
make you an idiot. I mean you *are* an idiot, but your
preferred fishing style doesn't enter into the equation.

And welcome back, by the way.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Willi wrote:

rw wrote:




With a typical 5 wt. rod you can play a fish as hard with 7x tippet as
with 5x tippet, or even with 2x tippet.


Bull****

You never use 7x tippet so you don't know what the **** you're talking
about. The only time I've seen you use 7x tippet (or maybe it 6x) was
when you were using MY rod, and you caught and brought to hand a fish,
and reached for the tippet to land it. I told you not to do it, that the
tippet would break, but you did it anyway. And it broke when the fish
struggled, and you lost my damn fly.

:-)

I will admit, however, that fine tippet was probably not justified in
that situation.

--

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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Willi wrote:

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

And I would never fish a dry fly downstream.


But you're also an idiot!


Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but as I recall you would
never fish with dynamite, upstream or down. That doesn't
make you an idiot. I mean you *are* an idiot, but your
preferred fishing style doesn't enter into the equation.

And welcome back, by the way.



Thanks

It's not that you don't fish dries downstream, it's your pompous way of
stating it.

I do have trouble understanding an aversion for certain casting
angles, or is a 90 degree upstream cast the only way?


Willi

"Willi" wrote in message
...


I thought it was weird too. In fact I had the opposite feeling about who
uses small tippet. The only guy I ever saw fish a streamer on a 7X
tippet was from back east. I'm guessin' that just about the only waters
Wayne has fished out West have been tailwaters.


Let;s Juan, Green, S. Platte, Co, Henry's Fork.Colorado, yup all tailwaters.
Oh yea there was that day on DuPuy's, Really small BWO's all day there too.

I never said I fished out West a lot, I was only in Kansas a little less
than three years. :)


I never said I fished out west a lot.

On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 23:00:33 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

And I would never fish a dry fly downstream.

Ah, yes, a respect for the classic - downstream, it's niblets or worms
on a 202 click-and-chunk...

Wayne Knight wrote:
"Willi" wrote in message
...


I thought it was weird too. In fact I had the opposite feeling about who
uses small tippet. The only guy I ever saw fish a streamer on a 7X
tippet was from back east. I'm guessin' that just about the only waters
Wayne has fished out West have been tailwaters.



Let;s Juan, Green, S. Platte, Co, Henry's Fork.Colorado, yup all tailwaters.
Oh yea there was that day on DuPuy's, Really small BWO's all day there too.

I never said I fished out West a lot, I was only in Kansas a little less
than three years. :)


I never said I fished out west a lot.




Many of the West's famous waters are tailwaters. They do produce big
fish but give people a distorted view of what most of the fishing is
like in the Rockies. 90% + of our waters are freestone streams and
rivers with fish that definitely don't "demand" long leaders, small
flies and thin tippet.

Willi

"Willi" wrote in message
...
Many of the West's famous waters are tailwaters. They do produce big fish
but give people a distorted view of what most of the fishing is like in
the Rockies. 90% + of our waters are freestone streams and rivers with
fish that definitely don't "demand" long leaders, small flies and thin
tippet.


If I had been using my experiences only I probably would not have chimed in,
but the last couple of years I;ve done my June Michigan thing, we've had two
guys that guide out west pretty much full time join us. And they catch fish
like a vacum cleaner with those small flies and long small tippets. My
observation is that the use of smaller flies and longer small tippets is
more common out west than in the East. Of course everyone;s experiences may
and can be different.

Form England
I think that tippet colour helps more than fine tippet size, it
should match the colour of the river bed.
Outside the natural upward vission of a fish, there is a reflection
off the water surface of the river bed
against which the wrong colour tippet will stand out like a "car
horn" before your fly reaches the fish!


--
A Yorkshire Lad

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rw wrote in news:42a50976$0$14969
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You never use 7x tippet so you don't know what the **** you're talking
about.

I guess his presentation must suck, huh?

Scott