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Ken Fortenberry October 25th, 2005 08:48 PM

The end of the line.
 
Daniel-San wrote:
...
My Civil War knowledge is slightly more than cursory, so I'll stay outta
that one.


Good thing, I guess. I mean so far your attempts to set
the historical record straight for all us dumb "Joes" has
resulted more in raised hackles than appreciation for your
slightly more than cursory historical knowledge.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Daniel-San October 25th, 2005 08:57 PM

The end of the line.
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote ...
Daniel-San wrote:
... My Civil War knowledge is slightly more than cursory, so I'll stay
outta that one.


Good thing, I guess. I mean so far your attempts to set
the historical record straight for all us dumb "Joes" has
resulted more in raised hackles than appreciation for your
slightly more than cursory historical knowledge.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Now that's a jump.

Are you saying that what I said about Rosa Parks is incorrect? If so, I'd
really like to know where you got the information you're relying on. Maybe
I'll use it to write a dissertation. I'll get ****ing famous. Bancroft Prize
here I come.

Dan
Who will wait for your reply while you Google "Bancroft Prize".








Wolfgang October 25th, 2005 09:03 PM

The end of the line.
 

"Jeff Taylor" wrote in message
...

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...
Rosa Parks, exemplar of quiet grace, dignity and courage got off the bus
for the last time yesterday.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/25/par...cnn_topstories

Wolfgang


As I sat in the dentist chair this morning, we (they mostly since there
were many tools in my mouth) talked about the passing of Mrs. Parks. When
I finally got a word in, I said "in all reality, it wasn't that long
ago..."

I would be born about 11 years after the incident, however I find it hard
to believe this wasn't that long ago if you look at the big picture...


Whether or not is was long ago depends in part on where you're looking from.
Most people who routinely ride buses in America today would probably take a
different view than most who don't.

Many of us here in ROFF were born before the incident. For those who
remember it (I thought I did, but looking at the date proves it highly
unlikely) it must seem a lot further in the past than anything they have to
look forward to is in the future. :)

Anyway, it appears that even in death Ms. Parks hasn't lost her ability to
act as a catalyst in stirring up a bit of a ruckus......however unwittingly.
Beyond the familiar broad outlines of her story, I know very little about
her.......but I like to think that the tempest brewing in our little teacup
would bring a smile to her lips.

Wolfgang



Joe McIntosh October 25th, 2005 09:22 PM

The end of the line.
 

"Wayne Harrison" wrote Agreed. I guess that's why
she's worthy of the praise.

Dan


why, that's downright white of you, dan.

jesus.

wayno

Indian Joe suggests- if you want to enjy a real study of the race problem
in the south read new book "Blood Done Sign My Name" by Tim Tyson---he
revisits a 1970 racial murder in Oxford North Carolina and expands story
to include discussion of the "real" reasons for failure to end race
question. since the early arrival of English slave boats.

Wolfgang you would enjoy his character studies

" the sumbitch sends his mother a congratulary telegram every year on his
own birthday. He is the only man I ever saw who can strut sitting down
I felt like a one legged man at an ass kicking contest-"





Wolfgang October 25th, 2005 09:28 PM

The end of the line.
 

"Joe McIntosh" wrote in message
...

Indian Joe suggests- if you want to enjy a real study of the race problem
in the south read new book "Blood Done Sign My Name" by Tim Tyson---he
revisits a 1970 racial murder in Oxford North Carolina and expands story
to include discussion of the "real" reasons for failure to end race
question. since the early arrival of English slave boats.

Wolfgang you would enjoy his character studies

" the sumbitch sends his mother a congratulary telegram every year on his
own birthday. He is the only man I ever saw who can strut sitting down
I felt like a one legged man at an ass kicking contest-"


I'll keep an eye out for it, Joe. I see it's over a year old. This makes
it likely that it will be showing up in my usual haunts.....the bargain
bins.....before too long. :)

Thanks.

Wolfgang



Ken Fortenberry October 25th, 2005 09:29 PM

The end of the line.
 
Daniel-San wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote ...
Daniel-San wrote:
... My Civil War knowledge is slightly more than cursory, so I'll stay
outta that one.


Good thing, I guess. I mean so far your attempts to set
the historical record straight for all us dumb "Joes" has
resulted more in raised hackles than appreciation for your
slightly more than cursory historical knowledge.


Now that's a jump.

Are you saying that what I said about Rosa Parks is incorrect?


That's what I'm saying. You said "the pageantry-version of her
story is sorta BS." I don't know what that's supposed to mean
but there is nothing BS about the Rosa Parks story.

If so, I'd
really like to know where you got the information you're relying on.


Rosa Parks' obit is on the Times web page.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/25/national/25parks.html

Maybe
I'll use it to write a dissertation. I'll get ****ing famous. Bancroft Prize
here I come.


Yeah, if I were writing a dissertation on Rosa Parks I'd omit
all references to BS, sorta or otherwise. But then I'm not on
the Bancroft committee so what do I know.

Dan
Who will wait for your reply while you Google "Bancroft Prize".


It's the small courtesies like that which make you so endearing.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Daniel-San October 25th, 2005 09:43 PM

The end of the line.
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote ...
Daniel-San wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote ...
Daniel-San wrote:
... My Civil War knowledge is slightly more than cursory, so I'll stay
outta that one.

Good thing, I guess. I mean so far your attempts to set
the historical record straight for all us dumb "Joes" has
resulted more in raised hackles than appreciation for your
slightly more than cursory historical knowledge.


Now that's a jump.

Are you saying that what I said about Rosa Parks is incorrect?


That's what I'm saying. You said "the pageantry-version of her
story is sorta BS." I don't know what that's supposed to mean
but there is nothing BS about the Rosa Parks story.


Here's the pageantry part:

Look at the title of this article:
http://www.grandtimes.com/rosa.html

First line of this article:
http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/page/par0pro-1

That's pageantry. It's also BS.

She was a decent, good person who took a personal stand. Her personal stand
was used by others to create a rallying point for one of the most important
times in our history. That is not pageantry. That is not BS. That is not
incorrect, either.



If so, I'd really like to know where you got the information you're
relying on.


Rosa Parks' obit is on the Times web page.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/25/national/25parks.html


Too bad the Times does not include the stories of the many people before
Parks that also took the same important stand, but were not chosen to be the
rallying point.


Maybe I'll use it to write a dissertation. I'll get ****ing famous.
Bancroft Prize here I come.


Yeah, if I were writing a dissertation on Rosa Parks I'd omit
all references to BS, sorta or otherwise.


But then I'm not on
the Bancroft committee so what do I know.


Hell, neither am I, but if I come up with something that refutes what I have
said, I'll meet the members personally. I'll let you know what they think.


Dan
Who will wait for your reply while you Google "Bancroft Prize".


It's the small courtesies like that which make you so endearing.


Right back atcha.

Dan


--
Ken Fortenberry




Ken Fortenberry October 25th, 2005 10:36 PM

The end of the line.
 
Daniel-San wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote ...
It's the small courtesies like that which make you so endearing.


Right back atcha.


You can say that the break-in at DNC headquarters on
June 17, 1972 was nothing more than political dirty
tricks as usual. And in a sense you wouldn't be
provably incorrect. But most of us "Joes" know it as
Watergate and if you want to write a dissertation on
it you probably won't want to dismiss it as BS.

And you could have picked a better day to impress us
with your encyclopedic historical knowledge of the
Rosa Parks story.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Wayne Knight October 25th, 2005 10:43 PM

The end of the line.
 

Daniel-San wrote:

I've been tying them with orange EP fibers as the post.


That's Roff for you, comments calling Ms Parks the right person in the
wrong place at the right time gets you all kinds of crap but using an
orange synthetic post on an Adams goes untouched. :(

If you're going to tie parachutes use hair for the posts the way the
good Lord intended. And an orange post on an Adams? That's like putting
an ULA reel on a Summer's Cane rod, that just ain't right.

Wayne
Casting and hopefully blasting in Michigan this weekend myself.


Daniel-San October 25th, 2005 10:46 PM

The end of the line.
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote ...
Daniel-San wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote ...
It's the small courtesies like that which make you so endearing.


Right back atcha.


You can say that the break-in at DNC headquarters on
June 17, 1972 was nothing more than political dirty
tricks as usual. And in a sense you wouldn't be
provably incorrect. But most of us "Joes" know it as
Watergate and if you want to write a dissertation on
it you probably won't want to dismiss it as BS.

And you could have picked a better day to impress us
with your encyclopedic historical knowledge of the
Rosa Parks story.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Ken,

Please go back and read the post I originally responded to, and then my
complete reply. I was commenting on what another person had written. I did
not bring up Parks, or her death. Please consider my original words as they
were meant -- as a reply to Mike Connor's post.

I have come to this group a few times asking for advice or information. You
even responded to one or two of my newbie FF questions. I do not seek to
impress anyone. Ever. I don't have a whole lot that's impressive. Except
maybe my wife, but that's neither here nor there.go ahead and insert jokes
here

I'm sure you have your hot button issues. I do, too. Mine include half- or
incomplete-history. I believe that wrapping anything up in pageantry is BS.
Tell the whole story or don't tell any story. Maybe that makes me an
asshole. Maybe that means I have poor timing. But I'm not apologizing for
either. At least not on ROFF.

Dan





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