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On 17 Nov 2005 16:05:51 -0800, wrote:

though a missing parent might mean death for for baby fish.

You have to either be a moron or a troll.

The "parents" of baby fish will EAT them, given the chance. And if
the baby fish grow bigger and stronger they some day may eat their
"parents". It is one helluva cruel world underneath that water.

wayno said it best: Soup Sandwich

Dave (who has yet to devour one of his offspring)

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barry wrote...

All I know about fly fishing is that you need little hairy things
called flies. I didn't have catch and release fisherman or wading in
mind.



Hairy things? WTF? What's wrong with being a little more hairy than the next
guy? Jeez. Now I'm gonna be used to catch a fish....

Berry, you're a nutjob. Coming close to world-class level. Maybe you mean
well. Hell, I dunno. If you want to have some real fun, find a hunting NG
and start telling everyone how Bambi hates the arrow that suddenly got
shoved where the sun don't shine.

As an aside -- it's nuts like yourself, Berry (I'll call you 'Boysen' -- one
of my faves) that give the far right political wing all the leverage they
need.

"Damned liberals want to outlaw fishing. That ain't right!"
"Better vote for GOPCO's nominee. They'll let us fish in peace And hunt,
too. Nevermind the insidious intrusion of religion into our private lives."

Learn to pick your battles. And, while I'm a layman, I'd really suggest that
you get some therapy.

Dan
Yes, the spelling was intentional.

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On 17 Nov 2005 16:05:51 -0800, wrote:


(Snipped)

you don't have to throw out every other important detail from me
and from the woman I quoted.

There were no important details, Sally / Barry. Take my word for it.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)

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On 17 Nov 2005 18:23:36 -0800, wrote:

Just put some freaking ice in the water and you could
prevent the pain of suffocation, or club the fish. That's all I'm
saying. Actually, I wasn't even saying anyone should do that until I
was attacked. I was just mentioning that someone said it works.


Sally / Barry, here in Minnesota we have a fly fishing season that's
open January through about the first of April in the few trout streams
that don't ice _completely_ over.

THE FISH COME OUT OF WATER THAT"S GOT ICE IN IT, DOLT. Since it's a
catch and release season, they go right back in the water. And swim
happily away. You can't kill a trout by dumping it in ice water. You
can do a mercy kill on the fish from your aquarium that way, as
they're mostly tropicals, but not sturdy, hardy northern fish.

The reason you're getting answers that lack respect is that you
deserve them. You're neither respectable in your views of fish and
fishing nor respectful of others. Go now.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)

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On 17 Nov 2005 18:11:51 -0800, "riverman" wrote:

(Snipped)

I'll ensure the gas in my car that I use to get
to the stream was from US fuel reserves

Isn't it going to cost you extra to have that imported to your
locality? Whichever foreign one you happen to be in at any given
moment?

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)

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Daniel-San wrote:
barry wrote...

All I know about fly fishing is that you need little hairy things
called flies. I didn't have catch and release fisherman or wading in
mind.



Hairy things? WTF? What's wrong with being a little more hairy than the next
guy? Jeez. Now I'm gonna be used to catch a fish....

Berry, you're a nutjob....And, while I'm a layman, I'd really suggest that
you get some therapy.

What are you talking about? I think I've seen "flies" sold for fishing,
and I thought they were hairy. Yeah, like these:
http://www.sea-ex.com/simkan/gallery.htm

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Cyli wrote:

THE FISH COME OUT OF WATER THAT"S GOT ICE IN IT, DOLT. Since it's a
catch and release season, they go right back in the water. And swim
happily away. You can't kill a trout by dumping it in ice water. You
can do a mercy kill on the fish from your aquarium that way, as
they're mostly tropicals, but not sturdy, hardy northern fish.

The reason you're getting answers that lack respect is that you
deserve them. You're neither respectable in your views of fish and
fishing nor respectful of others. Go now.

Again, I need an example of my disrespect. Remember to consider what
I'm replying to.

Catch and release isn't what I had in mind, so maybe this doesn't
apply. For other fishing, the ice is meant to anesthetize the fish, as
it says in the original post. If a fish won't stay in the icy container
you put it in, then it won't work, though I'm thinking you can cover it
or use a deep container. If it doesn't work, that doesn't make me a
dolt. It make me someone who wants to prevent thousands of cases of
suffering per day, and the lack of support here, and lack of complaints
about people like you makes this newsgroup suck.

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Dave LaCourse wrote:
On 17 Nov 2005 16:05:51 -0800, wrote:

though a missing parent might mean death for for baby fish.

You have to either be a moron or a troll.

The "parents" of baby fish will EAT them, given the chance. And if
the baby fish grow bigger and stronger they some day may eat their
"parents". It is one helluva cruel world underneath that water.

It's a helluva big world underneath that water too, and I doubt what
you say is true for all fish, but after the sentence you quoted I said
I don't really know enough about fish to know. I'm a moron or troll for
that?

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Not knowing and not caring are different things. Do you care if the
grass hurts when you walk on it? Do you care if a housefly suffers
needlessly when its plastered up against the sunny window in your
kitchen? Do you care how the WORM feels when its being dangled in front
of the fish?

Pain and suffering are a reality of life for every single species of
animal life on the planet. Humans may be unique in their ability to
reduce pain for humankind; that makes our particular trait rather
unnatural. To grant this to pets and other animals we have made a
personal bond to is touching, but a bit specie-centric. To extend this
to fish you are catching with the intent to kill and eat would be way
outside the rules of nature, it seems to me. They wouldn't do it for
us.

--riverman

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On 17 Nov 2005 18:11:51 -0800, "riverman" wrote:


(Snipped)



I'll ensure the gas in my car that I use to get
to the stream was from US fuel reserves


Isn't it going to cost you extra to have that imported to your
locality? Whichever foreign one you happen to be in at any given
moment?

Not really. In the World According To Bush, its ALL ours. :-)

--riverman