First Fly Rod, Reel and line Questions??
 

On 8 Mar 2006 17:05:57 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

wrote in news:jevt02d2gihh8ac0296943tq2o3fo6toos@
4ax.com:

IMO, large-arbor reels acquired with the large arbor being the primary
characteristic sought are for those who know exactly why they _want_
them. There's nothing wrong with getting a reel that one likes that
happens to be a large-arbor, but that doesn't mean that one can "defend"
having it from a practical standpoint on the basis of it being a
large-arbor reel. For most FFers, and a great deal of FFing, the arbor
size is simply not material.

TC,
R

Actually, I've always thought of large arbor reels as a means of getting
people who already have perfectly functionable reels to buy more reels in a
saturated market.

This feeling was reinforced when I started seeing mid arbor reels.

For those who know why they want a particular arbor size and want a
balance of backing capacity and retrieval speed, assuming equal overall
size as compared to "large-" and "small-" arbored reels, they could make
sense. But otherwise, you pretty well mirror my remark reels
designed to sell.

As for most anglers and quarry, the arbor size really isn't material, be
it large, small, or "mid." Heck, for many, they could do away with the
backing all together, at least from a "line used" standpoint. How many
have (regularly, even occasionally) been into the backing on average
trout, bass, panfish, and other freshwater quarry?

And on small waters and quarry, one could do away with the reel,
whatever size the arbor. How many use the reel in fighting and/or
landing (small) quarry?

TC,
R

First Fly Rod, Reel and line Questions??
 

"rw" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
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Scott Seidman wrote:

Rats. Distributivity gets me again!

There's a way to raise the rope one foot above the surface of the earth
without increasing its length at all. Just move it approximately 308
miles toward either pole.


Assuming your rope initially follows any circumference other than the
equator this is impossible.

That was part of the problem description: "You have a rope pulled snugly
around the earth at the equator."

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.


You have a rope pulled snugly around the earth at the equator (diameter =
7,926 miles +/-). How much length would you need to add to the rope to
raise it 6 inches off the earth at all points?

So what's the correct answer?
I'm still sticking with 1"
.960" exact.
-tom

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"rw" wrote in message
nk.net...
Wolfgang wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
k.net...

Scott Seidman wrote:

Rats. Distributivity gets me again!

There's a way to raise the rope one foot above the surface of the earth
without increasing its length at all. Just move it approximately 308
miles toward either pole.


Assuming your rope initially follows any circumference other than the
equator this is impossible.

That was part of the problem description: "You have a rope pulled snugly
around the earth at the equator."

Hm......

Fascinating.

However, assuming your rope initially follows any circumference other than
the equator, this is impossible.

On the other hand, you CAN push a rope.

Wolfgang
well, i can, anyway.

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First Fly Rod, Reel and line Questions??
 

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in
:


"rw" wrote in message
nk.net...
Wolfgang wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
k.net...

Scott Seidman wrote:

Rats. Distributivity gets me again!

There's a way to raise the rope one foot above the surface of the
earth without increasing its length at all. Just move it
approximately 308 miles toward either pole.


Assuming your rope initially follows any circumference other than
the equator this is impossible.

That was part of the problem description: "You have a rope pulled
snugly around the earth at the equator."

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.


You have a rope pulled snugly around the earth at the equator
(diameter = 7,926 miles +/-). How much length would you need to add
to the rope to raise it 6 inches off the earth at all points?

So what's the correct answer?
I'm still sticking with 1"
.960" exact.
-tom





In inches, it would be 12*pi
--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

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Wolfgang wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
nk.net...

Wolfgang wrote:

"rw" wrote in message
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Scott Seidman wrote:


Rats. Distributivity gets me again!

There's a way to raise the rope one foot above the surface of the earth
without increasing its length at all. Just move it approximately 308
miles toward either pole.


Assuming your rope initially follows any circumference other than the
equator this is impossible.

That was part of the problem description: "You have a rope pulled snugly
around the earth at the equator."


Hm......

Fascinating.

However, assuming your rope initially follows any circumference other than
the equator, this is impossible.

Assume away. I was following the problem description.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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"rw" wrote in message
k.net...
Wolfgang wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:

"rw" wrote in message
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Scott Seidman wrote:


Rats. Distributivity gets me again!

There's a way to raise the rope one foot above the surface of the earth
without increasing its length at all. Just move it approximately 308
miles toward either pole.


Assuming your rope initially follows any circumference other than the
equator this is impossible.

That was part of the problem description: "You have a rope pulled snugly
around the earth at the equator."


Hm......

Fascinating.

However, assuming your rope initially follows any circumference other
than the equator, this is impossible.

Assume away. I was following the problem description.

And only missed by 307.13 miles......roughly. Not bad. :)

Wolfgang
who, it must be admitted, has absolutely no recollection of raising a rope a
foot above the earth without increasing its length being part of the
original problem description.

First Fly Rod, Reel and line Questions??
 

Wolfgang wrote:

Wolfgang
who, it must be admitted, has absolutely no recollection of raising a rope a
foot above the earth without increasing its length being part of the
original problem description.

Just as you didn't recall that the rope being stretched around the
equator was part of the original problem description.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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"rw" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:

Wolfgang
who, it must be admitted, has absolutely no recollection of raising a
rope a foot above the earth without increasing its length being part of
the original problem description.

Just as you didn't recall that the rope being stretched around the equator
was part of the original problem description.

Actually, I did. You, on the other hand, evidently didn't recall that the
problem you stated was not the original one and that therefore there was no
reason for anyone to assume that the original restriction applied.

In short, you made the same mistake you always do. And, yes, I'll be
delighted to go into detail......if you insist. :)

Wolfgang

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Wolfgang wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:

Wolfgang
who, it must be admitted, has absolutely no recollection of raising a
rope a foot above the earth without increasing its length being part of
the original problem description.

Just as you didn't recall that the rope being stretched around the equator
was part of the original problem description.


Actually, I did. You, on the other hand, evidently didn't recall that the
problem you stated was not the original one and that therefore there was no
reason for anyone to assume that the original restriction applied.

In short, you made the same mistake you always do. And, yes, I'll be
delighted to go into detail......if you insist. :)

OK, here's the problem as Joe stated it:

"You have a rope pulled snugly around the earth at the EQUATOR [emphasis
mine] (diameter = 7,926 miles ±). How much length would you need to add
to the rope to raise it 6 inches off the earth at all points?"

The obvious answer, and the one that I'm sure Joe expected, and which I
was the first to post, is pi feet.

There's another, less obvious answer: You don't have to add any length.
Just move the rope approximately .87 miles toward either pole.

Try it. See if it works. After all, you claim to be able to push a rope.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.