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rw September 22nd, 2003 06:21 PM

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Mary Malmros wrote:

Wrong kind of "dangerous". It's a monstrous clog on the arteries.
In its native form, I believe, it's got quite a bit of saturated
fat, and it frequently shows up in food products in a hydrogenated
form, which is the worst stuff out there. So, it's not bull****,
but nevertheless a really bizarre non sequitur.


While it's true that palm oil is high in saturated fat, so are pork
chops and prime rib. I wouldn't eat a diet very rich in palm oil, but I
don't consider it "dangerous." It's very stable and has a pleasant
flavor. If I recall correctly, it's supposed to be especially good for
baking.


Stan Gula September 22nd, 2003 06:40 PM

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"rw" wrote in message
m...

Palm oil is very high in saturated fat (the bad kind).


There is no *bad* - it's all relative. As part of a diet that is otherwise
low in saturated fats, it's not going to have any ill effects. In a diet
rich in potato chips, cookies and Twinkies, it would be *very* unhealthy.
If your diet consists primarily of pork butt confit with cracklings, well,
the palm oil might be the only good thing in your diet.

Anyways, the part of the poster's comment I was referring to was that it had
been banned in some countries. I see no evidence of that anywhere.



Scott Seidman September 22nd, 2003 07:03 PM

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"Stan Gula" wrote in
:

If your diet consists primarily of pork butt confit with cracklings,
well, the palm oil might be the only good thing in your diet.


Mary Ann is making me Atkins. That IS my diet!!

Who knew it could be so pleasant. You follow Dr. Nick's advice to Homer,
where if the food turns paper clear when you rub it, go for it, and you
gloriously shed the pounds.

The bad part is beer is near-verbotten, but hard likker is just fine.

Scott

Tim J. September 22nd, 2003 07:48 PM

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"riverman" wrote...
"Tim J." wrote...
"riverman" wrote...
"Tim J." wrote...
"Mary Malmros" wrote...
snip
So, it's not bull****,
but nevertheless a really bizarre non sequitur.

It is amazing to me that someone I've never seen post
on roff before can sum up its essence in one short sentence.
golf clap
. . . well, except for the "it's not bull****" part.


Whoa, there Tim! Its crossposted to rec.boats.paddle (another
newsgroup I frequent, as well as some other roffians), and Mary
is NOT someone you want to tangle with. She stands up for
herself quite well.


If I had noticed the crossposting, I would have eliminated the
second group, as I normally do not like to enter the crossposting
milieu. But my post wasn't meant as a slant towards Mary,
but to poke fun at roff, which of course IS full of bull**** on a regular
basis (See - there goes some now.) So Mary, you can stand up or
be seated and it will make no difference to me - whatever makes
you comfortable. :)


Ahh, now that you put it that way, it IS amazing that someone who has never
posted on roff could sum up its essence in one short sentence. I concur!

--riverman
("roff: a really bizarre non-sequitur." I like it.)


SPAMMER! I didn't even know you were involved in wayno's tee-shirt business.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



Willi September 22nd, 2003 08:00 PM

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riverman wrote:
Life in Congo-Part 5: What a long, strange trip.


Great stuff like all your past adventures. You got the makings of a book
in there.

Willi



Stan Gula September 22nd, 2003 08:14 PM

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"rw" wrote:

Quite so. Moderation in all things (except for flyfishing).


I find that the occasional lapse in moderation while drinking is also very
therapeutic. Often that happens in conjunction with fishing. e.g. that
picture Willi has on his page



rw September 22nd, 2003 08:53 PM

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Stan Gula wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
m...

Palm oil is very high in saturated fat (the bad kind).



There is no *bad* - it's all relative.


Exactly. Saturated fats are relatively bad compared to polyunsaturated fats.

As part of a diet that is otherwise
low in saturated fats, it's not going to have any ill effects.


Quite so. Moderation in all things (except for flyfishing).


[email protected] September 23rd, 2003 05:03 AM

Life in Congo, Part V: What a (long) strange trip its being....
 
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:00:45 +0100, "riverman"
wrote:



Ahh, now that you put it that way, it IS amazing that someone who has never
posted on roff could sum up its essence in one short sentence. I concur!

--riverman
("roff: a really bizarre non-sequitur." I like it.)

She has a lot of common sense. Most long term kayakers have. Keeps
them alive. Especially the white water ones.
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

B J Conner September 23rd, 2003 05:11 AM

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It was a small jest. Riding around in a country where the army and police
are all drinking palm wine and packing AK-47s and decide the law on the
spot is a hell of a lot more dangerous than eating a grub with a little
palm oil.
The main squeeze has us on a healthy diet so it's no palm oil or Chorizo
for us.
I found about the Australia rules when one of my kids brought back some
Mentos from there. We were comparing the ingrediants to some sold here and
there was no palm oil in the ones made for the Australian market. We found
later that the Aussies have a little more common sense than Clarke would
give them credit for.
Most of the stuff I have seen here with palm oil is targeted at the quicky
mart and low income groups, jsut the ones who don't need it and don't read
labels.
I have eaten grubs before. If I had to do it again I would perfect a
microwave reciepe. They were tollable when toasted, but maby wrapped in
bacon and nuked??

"riverman" wrote in message
...

"Mary Malmros" wrote in message
...
"Stan Gula" writes:

"BJ Conner" wrote in message
om...
"leaves with palm oil "
Palm oil is really dangerous, It's not allowed in many countrys

now,
Australian for one.


"riverman" wrote in message
...
Wow, I'd like to know more about that. Too bad, palm oil is quite

tasty.


I would like to see a reference for that too. My bull**** meter got

up
to
75% on that one and I got curious. All I can find is one

environmental
action group recommending a boycott of palm oil products that are

produced

Wrong kind of "dangerous". It's a monstrous clog on the arteries.
In its native form, I believe, it's got quite a bit of saturated
fat, and it frequently shows up in food products in a hydrogenated
form, which is the worst stuff out there. So, it's not bull****,
but nevertheless a really bizarre non sequitur.



Hi Mary: I think I'm finding that the culprit is Palm Kernal Oil, which is
86% saturated fats and contributes to LDLs, whereas Palm Oil (or Palm Nut
Oil) is 50% saturated fats, and does not raise LDLs, and some resources
claim that it even is beneficial to the HDL/LDL ratio. I think what they

use
here for consumption in raw form is Palm Nut Oil, but I could easily be
wrong on this (and will post the appropriate apology to BJ for challenging
his useful and thoughtful statement.

In fact, I'll just do that now. Sorry, BJ; calling your claim bull**** was
pretty insensitive and brash on my part. Looks like theres a lot more to

it
than meets the eye, so thanks for the heads-up. I was WAY too quick on the
draw.

--riverman





Osmo Jauhiainen September 23rd, 2003 07:01 AM

Life in Congo, Part V: What a (long) strange trip its being....
 

"Herman Nijland" kirjoitti viestissä
...
Osmo Jauhiainen wrote:
This is part V but the first part I've seen! Somehow I have missed the
other parts!


They were posted quite some time ago. This should give you a good start:
http://tinyurl.com/o80i


Thanks Herman! But I was already yesterday evening browsing the history of
roff with google and found all the parts! The news servers I'm using did
not
remember that old messages!

Need some time to read the report from the beginning!

OsmoJ




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