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rw February 7th, 2008 03:55 PM

Obama
 
Donut wrote:
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:59:52 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:


On Feb 6, 3:08 pm, rw wrote:

Their policy positions are nearly identical. I'm just sick of
Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton.

I don't care about charisma or oratorical skills. I just want something
different.

If Hillary Clinton end's up the nominee I will enthusiastically vote for
her.


You're tired of Bush-Clinton. Want something different. Mad at
Clinton
for voting for the Iraq war. But if (when) she gets the nomination
you'll
vote for her regardless?

I just don't get people who vote strictly based on party. No wonder
both parties keep nominating garbage.
- Ken




OK, throw out party platforms...

For whatever reason, RW is inclined to vote for a democrat, whoever
that might be come November. He said he prefers Obama, but implies
that he'd take Clinton over any of the republican contenders.

So what's the problem?

I thought he'd explained his position pretty clearly earlier in this
thread. As Larry L. said, this is a person to vote *for*.

Besides, what would his options be? If you are of the democrat
persuasion, it's down to two people.

Don


For some reason Ken's post isn't showing up on my server so I'll answer
him by replying to your supportive post, Donut.

I don't dislike Hillary Clinton, even though there are some things she's
done (mainly the war authorization vote) that I disagree with, and I'd
rather leave the Bush/Clinton thing behind. I think the two Democratic
candidates are both excellent, and I can happily vote whichever one gets
the nomination.

I merely prefer Obama.

Is that so hard to "get"?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[email protected] February 7th, 2008 05:02 PM

Obama
 
On Feb 6, 6:12 pm, Lazarus Cooke
wrote:

Thanks, Royal and Larry etc..


Oh man, Laz, you've gone and done it. I suppose now we're ALL gonna
have to start calling him Royal...

Thanks a lot!

;-)

Jon.
PS: Found out on Tuesday that "DTS" party affiliation means "decline
to state". Coulda sworn I was registered...

Wolfgang February 7th, 2008 05:08 PM

Obama
 

"Larry L" wrote in message
...

...Electing Clinton II shortly after electing Bush II will increase the
impression that we are really becoming a place of dynasties....


Oh, good grief. Does the name Roosevelt ring any bells? No? Adams?

Wolfgang
well, what can one expect in a world in which some local "sports" franchise
or other wins some parochial championship or other and everybody starts to
bleat about "dynasties"?



[email protected] February 7th, 2008 05:10 PM

Obama
 
On Feb 7, 7:55 am, rw wrote:
Donut wrote:
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:59:52 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:


On Feb 6, 3:08 pm, rw wrote:


Their policy positions are nearly identical. I'm just sick of
Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton.


I don't care about charisma or oratorical skills. I just want something
different.


If Hillary Clinton end's up the nominee I will enthusiastically vote for
her.


You're tired of Bush-Clinton. Want something different. Mad at
Clinton
for voting for the Iraq war. But if (when) she gets the nomination
you'll
vote for her regardless?


I just don't get people who vote strictly based on party. No wonder
both parties keep nominating garbage.
- Ken


OK, throw out party platforms...


For whatever reason, RW is inclined to vote for a democrat, whoever
that might be come November. He said he prefers Obama, but implies
that he'd take Clinton over any of the republican contenders.


So what's the problem?


I thought he'd explained his position pretty clearly earlier in this
thread. As Larry L. said, this is a person to vote *for*.


Besides, what would his options be? If you are of the democrat
persuasion, it's down to two people.


Don


For some reason Ken's post isn't showing up on my server so I'll answer
him by replying to your supportive post, Donut.

I don't dislike Hillary Clinton, even though there are some things she's
done (mainly the war authorization vote) that I disagree with, and I'd
rather leave the Bush/Clinton thing behind. I think the two Democratic
candidates are both excellent, and I can happily vote whichever one gets
the nomination.

I merely prefer Obama.

Is that so hard to "get"?


It's difficult for me to "get" since I don't have an affiliation with
either party.
Given the dislikes you listed about Clinton, I'd assume you would be
looking
elsewhere if she beats out Obama.

For a while it looked like it was going to be Clinton vs Huckabee
which meant
I'd be voting 3rd party come November. The far left and far right
scare me
roughly equally.

If recent history has shown anything, giving either party control of
President,
House and Senate is a recipe for disaster.
- Ken

Lazarus Cooke February 7th, 2008 05:30 PM

Obama
 
In article
,
wrote:

On Feb 6, 6:12 pm, Lazarus Cooke
wrote:

Thanks, Royal and Larry etc..


Oh man, Laz, you've gone and done it. I suppose now we're ALL gonna
have to start calling him Royal...

I know, I know. It was overly familiar of me.

But, as I said, I'm at heart a republican, and ** without meaning any
offence ** it sticks in my craw to address him as 'your highness'.

L

Lazarus Cooke February 7th, 2008 05:34 PM

Obama
 
In article , Wolfgang
wrote:


We live in a world in which words like "liberal" and "conservative" are seen
as necessarily antithetical.


Not a world.

A country.

Margaret Thatcher would have been proud to see herself as a
conservative (as well as a Conservative) and as someone whose main
mission in life was to persuade people to adopt liberal (i.e. free of
unnecessary restraint) economics.

Lazarus

Wolfgang February 7th, 2008 05:38 PM

Obama
 

"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message
news:070220081734254449%lazaruscooke@britishlibrar y.invalid...
In article , Wolfgang
wrote:


We live in a world in which words like "liberal" and "conservative" are
seen
as necessarily antithetical.


Not a world.

A country.


Where do the countries you know dwell?

Margaret Thatcher would have been proud to see herself as a
conservative (as well as a Conservative) and as someone whose main
mission in life was to persuade people to adopt liberal (i.e. free of
unnecessary restraint) economics.


Many people are proud to see themselves as whatever it is they imagine they
are.

Lazarus


Yeah.

Wolfgang



Wolfgang February 7th, 2008 05:43 PM

Obama
 

"Steve" wrote in message
ews.com...

Law is not interpreted in "the eye of the beholder".


Pray tell, then.....by whom and how is it interpreted?

Wolfgang
who, in this latter day of "caveat emptor" knows that he will at least get
his money's worth from any free lesson offered.



rw February 7th, 2008 06:04 PM

Obama
 
wrote:

It's difficult for me to "get" since I don't have an affiliation with
either party.
Given the dislikes you listed about Clinton, I'd assume you would be
looking
elsewhere if she beats out Obama.


Like where?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Wolfgang February 7th, 2008 06:09 PM

Obama
 

"rw" wrote in message
m...
wrote:

It's difficult for me to "get" since I don't have an affiliation with
either party.
Given the dislikes you listed about Clinton, I'd assume you would be
looking
elsewhere if she beats out Obama.


Like where?


Like, at the point of this thread. You are IMPORTANT, man!

Wolfgang
well, what the hell did y'all THINK this was about? :)




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