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Giles December 21st, 2009 11:55 AM

"the" movie ...years later ... review
 
On Dec 20, 11:54*pm, DaveS wrote:
On Dec 20, 6:10*pm, Giles wrote:





On Dec 20, 7:29*pm, DaveS wrote:


On Dec 20, 5:25*pm, DaveS wrote:


Its this one


http://www.windriverhistory.org/exhi...sources/Domini....


That one brings up a security alert.


Cahokia, the urban end of the distribution, the Tukudika people = the
*hermit end ? .


Huh?


g.


Yes, what a PITA. I get it sometimes, then not today with that addy.
Apparently the structure of the site (windriverhistory) has changed.
Im getting to a place with the addy below, where you can download the
1964 Dominick paper. The Wind River group now has lots of stuff on the
Sheep eaters that I hadn't seen befor.

http://www.windriverhistory.org/exhi...eepeaters.html

Dave


1. "the" movie--bad.
2. Redford has a real feel for the inter-mountain West.
3. try DeVoto.
4. Southesk collection of that Scotsman Earl--Royal Alberta Museaum
5. Royal Alberta Museum's website makes no reference to an artist on
the trip
6. mixed up William Drummond Stewart with James Carnegie, 9th Earl of
Southesk--mystery solved.
7. so it seems
8. Lenni Lenapes--double re curve, composite bow in the paintings--
precursor of the best of the New Left
historical analysis.
9. native innovation as regards recurved bows, even if proved
conculsively, doesn't do much to support the contention that Alfred
Jacob Miller was instrumental in informing DeVoto's understanding of
the real west.
10. my bro has said there was some Delaware presence in Wisconsin,
although I
don't know where that might be. Both he and I married into part
Native
blood.
11. The people who made these special bows were the Tukudika, the
"Sheep
Eaters," never considered a career in communications I gather?
12. there are probably some folks here who think this
exchange has had something or other to do with Bernard DeVoto, James
Carnegie and/or William Drummond Stewart and (or maybe not) Alfred
Jacob Miller, recurved bows, art as an instructional device, plains
Indians (some of whom may or may not have come from somewhere else),
native inventiveness vs. commercial acquisition, the real west, etc.
13. Ok well there it is. Merry Christmas.
14. Merry Christmas.
15. If you know off hand what Cahokia was or even Chaco Canyon you're
probably interested.
16. Been there.
17. Its this one
http://www.windriverhistory.org/exhi...sources/Domini...
18. That one brings up a security alert.
19. Yes, what a PITA. I get it sometimes, then not today with that
addy.
Apparently the structure of the site (windriverhistory) has changed.
Im getting to a place with the addy below, where you can download the
1964 Dominick paper. The Wind River group now has lots of stuff on
the
Sheep eaters that I hadn't seen befor.

Looked at it.

WTF?

Refresh my memory. What were we talking about and what has any of
this got to do with it?

g.


DaveS December 21st, 2009 08:56 PM

"the" movie ...years later ... review
 
On Dec 21, 3:55*am, Giles wrote:
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WTF?

Refresh my memory. *What were we talking about and what has any of
this got to do with it?

g.-
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Sure, it is about the richness and value of first person based
accounts for getting an accurate account of the West in a culture
infused with a simplistic, inaccurate, cowboys and Indians narrative.
And of course the ability to expose oneself, tuition-free to a finely
honed example of non linear discovery, which obviously has run its
course. ;+)

Dave
See ya round

Giles December 22nd, 2009 02:11 AM

"the" movie ...years later ... review
 
On Dec 21, 2:56*pm, DaveS wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:55*am, Giles wrote:
Snip

WTF?


Refresh my memory. *What were we talking about and what has any of
this got to do with it?


g.-
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Sure, it is about the richness and value of first person based
accounts for getting an accurate account of the West in a culture
infused with a simplistic, inaccurate, cowboys and Indians narrative.
And of course the ability to expose oneself, tuition-free to a finely
honed example of non linear discovery,


Ah.....that sounds like fun!

which obviously has run its
course. * ;+)


Rats. Just when you learn the rules, somebody takes the ball and goes
home.

Dave
See ya round


Yep.

Oh, by the way, for a completely different (and much more widely
recognisable) view of the west, J. Frank Dobie is worth a look.

giles
and then, for those who care and dare, there's also the abbey road.


DaveS December 22nd, 2009 06:59 AM

"the" movie ...years later ... review
 
On Dec 21, 6:11*pm, Giles wrote:
On Dec 21, 2:56*pm, DaveS wrote:





On Dec 21, 3:55*am, Giles wrote:
Snip


WTF?


Refresh my memory. *What were we talking about and what has any of
this got to do with it?


g.-
- Show quoted text -


Sure, it is about the richness and value of first person based
accounts for getting an accurate account of the West in a culture
infused with a simplistic, inaccurate, cowboys and Indians narrative.
And of course the ability to expose oneself, tuition-free to a finely
honed example of non linear discovery,


Ah.....that sounds like fun!

which obviously has run its
course. * ;+)


Rats. *Just when you learn the rules, somebody takes the ball and goes
home.

Dave
See ya round


Yep.

Oh, by the way, for a completely different (and much more widely
recognisable) view of the west, J. Frank Dobie is worth a look.

giles
and then, for those who care and dare, there's also the abbey road.- Hide quoted text -

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Hey, no offence ment. Even the most interesting threads wear out.
Don't think Ive read Dobie, I will look. Right now gnawing on a
friend's heavy Vietman grunt novel 20 yrs in the making. So far its
disturbing enough to not pass on.

Dave


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